Embiid Updates/Discussion

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

At this point, I think you have to just be happy with Okafor, Noel, Holmes, Saric, Tokoto, Stauskas, Grant, future picks, and cap space as the main building blocks to this franchise's future.

If anything good comes from Embiid on the court, then it's icing on the cake.

Why is Tokoto on that list?

Lol Kazemi, and Aldemire seem to have been forgotten.

[KramerDSP]

I say let him play. And have him play A lot ( 44 minutes a game to start at the least )...put pressure and pressure on it. That is the only way you will ever tell if it is healed. And if he should totally shatter it again...then give him a Band-aid, and show him the door. It's that easy people.

Option A: Go the Big Z route, bite the bullet and undergo bone graft surgery and hope that does the trick, giving him a ten year career.

Option B: Let him play and if he breaks it, pray to God it's not a bad break aka Yao and his spider cracks.

Seems like Hinkie strikes me as a guy who, having witnessed the Yao stuff up front during his time at Houston, would prefer Option A and that Embiid and his camp would prefer Option B.

[Ericb5]

I say let him play. And have him play A lot ( 44 minutes a game to start at the least )...put pressure and pressure on it. That is the only way you will ever tell if it is healed. And if he should totally shatter it again...then give him a Band-aid, and show him the door. It's that easy people.

Option A: Go the Big Z route, bite the bullet and undergo bone graft surgery and hope that does the trick, giving him a ten year career.

Option B: Let him play and if he breaks it, pray to God it's not a bad break aka Yao and his spider cracks.

Seems like Hinkie strikes me as a guy who, having witnessed the Yao stuff up front during his time at Houston, would prefer Option A and that Embiid and his camp would prefer Option B.

I would say that between those two scenarios that Hinkie and Embiid's camp would both prefer Option A. Embiid himself is sort of irrelevant simply because he is a kid and he may not fully grasp the risk given how good he feels. Obviously, he has a say, but I would hope that his parents and his agent would be able to talk him into the conservative approach if need be.

The most important factor in avoiding the spider crack scenario I think is catching the injury before it is played on too much. If he is playing I would hope and expect that they would be watching him like a hawk for ANY sign of injury with regular scans.

[51X3RF4N]

At this point, I think you have to just be happy with Okafor, Noel, Holmes, Saric, Tokoto, Stauskas, Grant, future picks, and cap space as the main building blocks to this franchise's future.

If anything good comes from Embiid on the court, then it's icing on the cake.

Why is Tokoto on that list?

Lol Kazemi, and Aldemire seem to have been forgotten.

Because I don't think Aldemir or Kazemi will be a part of the team when it comes time to be competitive. However, Tokoto is on the list because I think that although he has struggled offensively at times, he has the elite athleticism to turn into a very serviceable wing defender off the bench, and can improve enough to be one of the 10 rotational guys on this team over the next 5 years. I've watched him play every game at UNC and I've seen a significant improvement in his jumper over the years, as well as a willingness to do whatever the team asked him. My personal opinion, of course, but I like Tokoto and think he'll surprise a lot of people with his NBA career.

[iamagodfrey]

@gonzoCSN
Surgery still an option for Joel Embiid. While we’re waiting for news, he’s on a plane to Vegas right now to watch Sixers summer league

[Sixerscan]

Better than being on a plane to LA to get another surgery

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Why is Tokoto on that list?

Lol Kazemi, and Aldemire seem to have been forgotten.

Because I don't think Aldemir or Kazemi will be a part of the team when it comes time to be competitive. However, Tokoto is on the list because I think that although he has struggled offensively at times, he has the elite athleticism to turn into a very serviceable wing defender off the bench, and can improve enough to be one of the 10 rotational guys on this team over the next 5 years. I've watched him play every game at UNC and I've seen a significant improvement in his jumper over the years, as well as a willingness to do whatever the team asked him. My personal opinion, of course, but I like Tokoto and think he'll surprise a lot of people with his NBA career.

It's cool bro, you aint got to lie about watching every North Carolina game that Tokoto played in. Dude's gonna be Doug Christie reborn I gotcha.

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@gonzoCSN
Surgery still an option for Joel Embiid. While we’re waiting for news, he’s on a plane to Vegas right now to watch Sixers summer league

what does this even means?
there are many options for Embiid , he could have surgery , he could play black jack tonight, he could **** a stripper in Vegas

there is an option he could even go to the pool Sat afternoon

[Kobblehead]

The pool on Saturday? Are you crazy. Not before he sees a chlorine specialist, a master skimmer, and a floaties manufacturer, first.

In all seriousness, the Sixers are just being indecisive, at this point. They've exhausted the route of receiving additional opinions. There will never be a consensus. They have to just make a decision. Because like Sixerscan said, this is an important time for developing. Either let him resume basketball activities or have the surgery now so it doesn't cut into his ability to develop this time next summer.

[sixers hoops]

@gonzoCSN
Surgery still an option for Joel Embiid. While we’re waiting for news, he’s on a plane to Vegas right now to watch Sixers summer league

what does this even means?
there are many options for Embiid , he could have surgery , he could play black jack tonight, he could **** a stripper in Vegas

there is an option he could even go to the pool Sat afternoon

Just an attempt at making news. I honestly don't think Embiid knows the next step at this point. I would guess they have several differing opinions and are struggling to come to a consensus.

[jbent87]

Seems they're just wasting time at this point? Whose input are they waiting for that could change the course of action? Is there a webex scheduled for this afternoon with this group of physicians and Hinkie where they're going to come to a decision or something?

[rzzzzz]

Seems they're just wasting time at this point? Whose input are they waiting for that could change the course of action? Is there a webex scheduled for this afternoon with this group of physicians and Hinkie where they're going to come to a decision or something?

think they're trying to induce some more growth non-invasively. probably giving it a month or so before they scan him again.

[51X3RF4N]

Lol Kazemi, and Aldemire seem to have been forgotten.

Because I don't think Aldemir or Kazemi will be a part of the team when it comes time to be competitive. However, Tokoto is on the list because I think that although he has struggled offensively at times, he has the elite athleticism to turn into a very serviceable wing defender off the bench, and can improve enough to be one of the 10 rotational guys on this team over the next 5 years. I've watched him play every game at UNC and I've seen a significant improvement in his jumper over the years, as well as a willingness to do whatever the team asked him. My personal opinion, of course, but I like Tokoto and think he'll surprise a lot of people with his NBA career.

It's cool bro, you aint got to lie about watching every North Carolina game that Tokoto played in. Dude's gonna be Doug Christie reborn I gotcha.

I don't understand your post. I'm not lying about watching UNC games. I am a huge UNC fan. I watch all of their games, regardless. I live in Wilmington, NC - moved here from PA in 2011.

I also didn't say anything about Doug Christie, or any other player to whom I might compare what J.P. Tokoto has the potential to become. So again, I don't get what you're saying.

[joyeuxnoel]

Imo waiting one month to re-scan is the best decision

If it looks the same it stopped healing so you most likely redo the surgery or take the bigger gamble and let him play through it

If it continues to heal you keep him shut down until it's fully healed

[LongLiveHinkie]

To me, the rumor that his foot just stopped healing and they are trying to decide whether to make him get surgery or play through it makes a lot of sense. It would explain all the doctor opinions, and would explain why they still haven't decided on surgery at this point.

[76ersfan18]

If that's the case then the question becomes "at what point did his foot stop healing?" 70%, 80%, 95%? That's what I'm curious about. How far along the healing process is he really?

[sixers hoops]

To me, the rumor that his foot just stopped healing and they are trying to decide whether to make him get surgery or play through it makes a lot of sense. It would explain all the doctor opinions, and would explain why they still haven't decided on surgery at this point.

If it is already 90% healed and then suddenly stopped healing, I would let him ramp up the workouts and keep performing CT scans. It was healed enough that that they allowed him to begin workouts in May.

I assume if it is not fully healed it could very well break again, and they could try surgery at that point.

The other option seems to be another surgery to work for complete healing. There goes another 8 months and it may be the same outcome.

Tough call.

[LongLiveHinkie]

To me, the rumor that his foot just stopped healing and they are trying to decide whether to make him get surgery or play through it makes a lot of sense. It would explain all the doctor opinions, and would explain why they still haven't decided on surgery at this point.

If it is already 90% healed and then suddenly stopped healing, I would let him ramp up the workouts and keep performing CT scans. It was healed enough that that they allowed him to begin workouts in May.

I assume if it is not fully healed it could very well break again, and they could try surgery at that point.

The other option seems to be another surgery to work for complete healing. There goes another 8 months and it may be the same outcome.

Tough call.

I agree. He's seen a ton of doctors by now. If it was anything definitive, they'd have made an announcement. If you see 6 doctors(just to throw out a number) and all 6 doctors tell you to either get surgery, or to not get surgery, then it's a done deal. Case closed. He's seen a ton of doctors, if there was a simple call, it would have been done by now.

That's why I think there is some grey area going on, and that rumor makes a lot of sense. It would be a tough call on the doctors, and tough on the team. Also, I'd assume when something stops healing, they are going to try to figure out why so it doesn't happen again, and that could take time as well.

[Kobblehead]

I mean it's not really a rumor. It's an account of what happened from Hinkie's own mouth.

[sixerkitty]

Better than being on a plane to LA to get another surgery

He shouldn't be on a Plane period. His Butt should be back in Philly, seeing a trainer everyday to work on the parts of his body that are not related to his Foot, or on his game that doesn't require risk, ect. Look, I for one am a 76er fan who already believes that this kids work ethic is very very questionable. And that he clearly loves the " L.A. " Lifestyle. I mean in case you didn't know...Embiid has bought a hoe I L.A. already, and has spent like way more time in L.A. then he ever has in Philly. That rightconcee. But what is worse is that it has been over 13 months since his surgery to correct a problem that no other Athlete has had this surgery hasn't comeback 100 % healthy in 6 to 7 months tops. This was a statement by Doctor James Andrews, who has more experience with this type of foot issue then any other Doctor ever. So now we are approaching TWICE that time frame...and this guy still cannot play ? Sorry but that is an Issue.