Free Agency Thread -David West to Spurs for free

eagle13 · Post #3521 » by **eagle13** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:06 pm

OKC would better get Dirk than Kanter

eagle13 · Post #3522 » by **eagle13** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:31 pm

How bout this for a pipe dream?

Bucks trade MCW to HOU for Terrence Jones

then 5.2 (zaza) TPE and three 2nds to SAC for Darren Collison
then 4.5(dudley) TPE and 2016-1st-lp to BOS - Tyler Zeller

need to trade Bayless/JOB for SF

Monroe / Zeller/ Plumlee
Parker / Jones /
Giannis / Parker / Ingliss
Middleton / Mayo / Vaughn
Collison / Vasquez / Ennis

machu46 · Post #3523 » by **machu46** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:48 pm

weezybaby856 wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
weezybaby856 wrote:
With Ibaka Adams and McGary I'd imagine they let Kanter walk at that price. I mean I know I would. I'm ecstatic about Monroe and I know if we had whiffed on Moose and 3yr 50mil at Kanter was the consolation, I'd be pretty upset. And I like Kanter, he's just horrendous on 1 side and not good enough to overcompensate on the other. No way is he worth that type of coin. Kanter is probably worth about 2mil less than Robin Lopez IMO.

OKC will match. No other choice if they want to keep Durant next year.

I believe it to be the complete opposite actually. I'm pretty sure Durant would want that money better spent elsewhere rather than basically watching it burn every time he gets disgusted with Kanter getting scored on constantly and not passing him the ball enough. I find it hard to believe that keeping Kanter on a bad contract is something Durant thinks is a deal closer.

I don't think OKC can spend the money elsewhere. I'm pretty sure they're over the cap or very close to it.

M-C-G · Post #3524 » by **M-C-G** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:00 pm

eagle13 wrote:How bout this for a pipe dream?

Bucks trade MCW to HOU for Terrence Jones

then 5.2 (zaza) TPE and three 2nds to SAC for Darren Collison
then 4.5(dudley) TPE and 2016-1st-lp to BOS - Tyler Zeller

need to trade Bayless/JOB for SF

Monroe / Zeller/ Plumlee
Parker / Jones /
Giannis / Parker / Ingliss
Middleton / Mayo / Vaughn
Collison / Vasquez / Ennis

That is the worst use of the term "pipe dream" I have ever seen.

Sauce Boss · Post #3525 » by **Sauce Boss** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:18 pm

eagle13 wrote:How bout this for a pipe dream?

Bucks trade MCW to HOU for Terrence Jones

then 5.2 (zaza) TPE and three 2nds to SAC for Darren Collison
then 4.5(dudley) TPE and 2016-1st-lp to BOS - Tyler Zeller

need to trade Bayless/JOB for SF

Monroe / Zeller/ Plumlee
Parker / Jones /
Giannis / Parker / Ingliss
Middleton / Mayo / Vaughn
Collison / Vasquez / Ennis

Badgerlander · Post #3526 » by **Badgerlander** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:43 pm

David Pick ‏@IAmDPick 1m1 minute ago
Rumbles overseas hint 7-foot-4 giant Boban Marjanovic, Euro Center of the Year, has a deal with San Antonio.

Newz · Post #3527 » by **Newz** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:21 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
David Pick ‏@IAmDPick 1m1 minute ago
Rumbles overseas hint 7-foot-4 giant Boban Marjanovic, Euro Center of the Year, has a deal with San Antonio.

Thus guy sounds **** amazing.

Boban is an insanely good name.

Badgerlander · Post #3528 » by **Badgerlander** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:37 pm

Newz wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
David Pick ‏@IAmDPick 1m1 minute ago
Rumbles overseas hint 7-foot-4 giant Boban Marjanovic, Euro Center of the Year, has a deal with San Antonio.

Thus guy sounds **** amazing.

Boban is an insanely good name.

Yeah he was brought up in the offseason thread when the Bucks were rumored to be interested, he is the same size as Gobert +50lbs, older and slower but he also has a jumper. He may struggle to defend speed in the NBA but I dont know how anyone stops him from scoring.

DanoMac · Post #3529 » by **DanoMac** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:48 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
David Pick ‏@IAmDPick 1m1 minute ago
Rumbles overseas hint 7-foot-4 giant Boban Marjanovic, Euro Center of the Year, has a deal with San Antonio.

It's actually Bobandy

step3profit · Post #3530 » by **step3profit** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:56 pm

Newz wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
David Pick ‏@IAmDPick 1m1 minute ago
Rumbles overseas hint 7-foot-4 giant Boban Marjanovic, Euro Center of the Year, has a deal with San Antonio.

Thus guy sounds **** amazing.

Boban is an insanely good name.

Probably too good to be true. I'd worry a bit that Gandalf would lead him off on a quest.

Matches Malone · Post #3531 » by **Matches Malone** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:57 pm

Woelfel to follow? 8-)

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/619580613457096704[/tweet]

Newz · Post #3532 » by **Newz** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:00 pm

Badgerlander wrote:Yeah he was brought up in the offseason thread when the Bucks were rumored to be interested, he is the same size as Gobert +50lbs, older and slower but he also has a jumper. He may struggle to defend speed in the NBA but I dont know how anyone stops him from scoring.

This scouting report is garbage. I will break it down for you.

Strengths: Everything, Name
Weaknesses: Too Many Strengths

Sauce Boss · Post #3533 » by **Sauce Boss** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:12 pm

Newz wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:Yeah he was brought up in the offseason thread when the Bucks were rumored to be interested, he is the same size as Gobert +50lbs, older and slower but he also has a jumper. He may struggle to defend speed in the NBA but I dont know how anyone stops him from scoring.

This scouting report is garbage. I will break it down for you.

Strengths: Everything, Name
Weaknesses: Too Many Strengths

I'll wait for Chuck's scouting report before passing final judgement.

Badgerlander · Post #3534 » by **Badgerlander** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:15 pm

Newz wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:Yeah he was brought up in the offseason thread when the Bucks were rumored to be interested, he is the same size as Gobert +50lbs, older and slower but he also has a jumper. He may struggle to defend speed in the NBA but I dont know how anyone stops him from scoring.

This scouting report is garbage. I will break it down for you.

Strengths: Everything, Name
Weaknesses: Too Many Strengths

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7-65M0K33U[/youtube]

7'4" 293lbs

HurricaneKid · Post #3535 » by **HurricaneKid** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:10 pm

I'm floored at the Kanter offer sheet.

There is no why to quantify how bad he is defensively. But I'll try. Basketball Ref has his DBPM at -1.9 for his career. That is the worst of all time. There are stories about him in the last week of the OKC season getting late 4th pointers from teammates as to how to play the PnR. This is a player who has had every resource available to him. He couldn't play at UK but he spent a season with Cal and his team. He has been in the NBA for 4 years with coaches that will work with him on anything. Instead of developing his defense he started shooting 3s. And its not like they wouldn't have pressed an all time awful defender to get better. Its why he got sent packing from Utah for a bag of peanuts, and why they got noticably better.

And still he wouldn't work at his craft. Now he has signed a 70M contract. Do you really think he is going to suddenly find passion for improving his defense now that he and his family have a lifetime of security?

Do you think you can even leave a defender that bad in the game in the playoffs? Teams are going to put him at the fulcrum of everything they do. He is unplayable.

That contract is INSANE. I cannot imagine OKC matching that. I'd be pissed if he signed half that deal here.

emunney · Post #3536 » by **emunney** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:14 pm

SALT LAKE CITY -- Returning to play against his former team Saturday night, Thunder center Enes Kanter claimed to have plenty more he could say about his tumultuous tenure with the Utah Jazz, but still didn't hold back all that much.

Enes Kanter made provocative comments about his preference for playing in Oklahoma City over Utah. Amin Elhassan says much of that has to do with the fact that the Thunder are using him the right way.

"I love it," Kanter said before the game of his change of scenery. "It's a team I've never experienced before and I actually like playing basketball there. I'm just so comfortable and everything is in the right place. I'm just really happy to be there."

And it showed, as he continued his hot streak with 18 points and 11 rebounds in a 94-89 loss to the Jazz.

This is pretty much a perfect encapsulation of Kanter.

raferfenix · Post #3537 » by **raferfenix** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:15 pm

If OKC just lets Kanter walk they would be looking to make another move to prevent Durant from flipping out. At least you'd think they would.

Licensed to Il · Post #3538 » by **Licensed to Il** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:15 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
Newz wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:Yeah he was brought up in the offseason thread when the Bucks were rumored to be interested, he is the same size as Gobert +50lbs, older and slower but he also has a jumper. He may struggle to defend speed in the NBA but I dont know how anyone stops him from scoring.

This scouting report is garbage. I will break it down for you.

Strengths: Everything, Name
Weaknesses: Too Many Strengths

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7-65M0K33U[/youtube]

7'4" 293lbs

This guy might fill the void I have had in my heart for a giagantic lumbering eastern europeon big man with fancy passing that I have been haunted by since Arvydas retired

ajb905 · Post #3539 » by **ajb905** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:23 pm

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/07/nets-buyout-deron-williams-mavs.html

4:05pm: "Williams is expected to sign a two-year deal with the Mavericks in the $10MM range after he clears waivers, Marc Stein of ESPN.com tweets.

4:01pm: The Nets and Williams have reached an agreement on a buyout arrangement, David Aldridge of TNT reports (on Twitter). The details of the agreement are not yet known."

raferfenix · Post #3540 » by **raferfenix** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:38 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BA_Turner/status/619587835218124800[/tweet]