Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs

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"Honestly, in Phoenix I didn't think I had the opportunity," Marcus Morris said. "I kind of wanted to play with my brother so much that I kind of took away from myself. I never felt like I had a chance to grow as a player over there".

"During my time in Phoenix, I never really felt they were comfortable with me. 'Give him five minutes here. We're going to make sure he gets his time.'

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2015/07/small_forward_marcus_morris_ma.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

In my opinion, God works in mysterious ways, and He has plans for certain people. Everybody knew how bad I wanted to play with my brother. Phoenix knew. For them to trade me without consent or telling me was like a slap in the face, because of the contract I took from those guys and the money I took from them.

How are any of you still defending this kid? I seriously question your morals and standards if you think Suns fans need to cut this spoiled kid more slack.

This is probably the best example of "addition by subtraction" since we got rid of Beasley.

[Kerrsed]

"For them to trade me without consent or telling me was like a slap in the face, because of the contract I took from those guys and the money I took from them. I'm happy to be here. I'm a Piston. I'm a Bad Boy. I'm ready to get started.''

Did anyone notice the hat he was wearing? With the charges filed against him, i think its a bit in bad taste.

[saintEscaton]

Hey ginobiliflops, are you in some way related to the Morris twins? Just curious.

He's their long lost triplet seperated at birth

[saintEscaton]

Mook is like a wannabe Sheed without half the talent or intensity on the court

[Saberestar]

In my opinion, God works in mysterious ways, and He has plans for certain people. Everybody knew how bad I wanted to play with my brother. Phoenix knew. For them to trade me without consent or telling me was like a slap in the face, because of the contract I took from those guys and the money I took from them.

What a class act guy...he reminds me of Grant Hill

[Flying Colors]

Look guys, i kinda get it. Or rather i get one real perspective. That both brothers took potentially less money to stay together. Whether you feel they would or wouldn't, they probably could have gotten more money on the open market. If Suns sign them like this with the assurance that they stay together, then yes this could be seen as a huge slight. Players talk to each other. As far as we know, they understand the Morris brothers perspective, coupled with Dragic's comments, maybe they FO IS beginning to seem untrust worthy. Hard to say really, we have to wait and see on that one.

Still Marcus kinda did this to himself, The things he did kinda began to stack, and at a certain point somethings got to give. Kieff will get over it, and if he doesn't then fine, we will trade him, but chances are he won't get to play his brother again for a while anyways. So he is better off making the best of the situation . Maybe if he does begin to play much better, he can see how this is a good move

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Him and Dragic had great chemistry together, I think if they can get that back then Miami will be dangerous in the East.

[tgtm_24]

I'm putting Marcus down for at least one technical when we play the Pistons

[ShawnBronald]

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Him and Dragic had great chemistry together, I think if they can get that back then Miami will be dangerous in the East.

They added Amare as well. I guess that's the new trend, stack your team with former Suns (whether it be coaches or players) and watch the wins roll in. Too bad that doesn't work for the current Suns. Maybe this season, though?

[plonden]

With the Nets buy out of Deron Williams, Brooklyn is lacking a starting-caliber point guard. What about trading Brandon Knight to the Nets for Thaddeus Young and Rondae Hollis-Jefferson?

Why the Nets do it: Jarrett Jack is a great backup point guard, and a below average starting point guard. Knight is young and on a good contract and an average or above-average starting point guard.

Why the Suns do it: Bledsoe becomes the unquestioned starting point guard. Young can play both forward positions and is signed to a decent deal. Young is also in his prime right now (27 years old). The Suns also get a raw prospect on a rookie deal who has a chance to develop into a very special defender. Plus, Hollis-Jefferson has Arizona ties.

Bledsoe / Price / McNeal
Weems / Booker / Goodwin
Young / Tucker / Warren / Hollis-Jefferson
Morris / Teletovic / Luer
Chandler / Len

This would make both Morris and Tucker expendable in the right deal.

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[tweet]https://twitter.com/JeffZillgitt/status/619623192236281856[/tweet]
Wow they got Amare too!

[Kerrsed]

With the Nets buy out of Deron Williams, Brooklyn is lacking a starting-caliber point guard. What about trading Brandon Knight to the Nets for Thaddeus Young and Rondae Hollis-Jefferson?

Why the Nets do it: Jarrett Jack is a great backup point guard, and a below average starting point guard. Knight is young and on a good contract and an average or above-average starting point guard.

Why the Suns do it: Bledsoe becomes the unquestioned starting point guard. Young can play both forward positions and is signed to a decent deal. Young is also in his prime right now (27 years old). The Suns also get a raw prospect on a rookie deal who has a chance to develop into a very special defender. Plus, Hollis-Jefferson has Arizona ties.

Bledsoe / Price / McNeal
Weems / Booker / Goodwin
Young / Tucker / Warren / Hollis-Jefferson
Morris / Teletovic / Luer
Chandler / Len

This would make both Morris and Tucker expendable in the right deal.

Cant trade Knight quite yet.

[jcsunsfan]

Look guys, i kinda get it. Or rather i get one real perspective. That both brothers took potentially less money to stay together. Whether you feel they would or wouldn't, they probably could have gotten more money on the open market. If Suns sign them like this with the assurance that they stay together, then yes this could be seen as a huge slight. Players talk to each other. As far as we know, they understand the Morris brothers perspective, coupled with Dragic's comments, maybe they FO IS beginning to seem untrust worthy. Hard to say really, we have to wait and see on that one.

Still Marcus kinda did this to himself, The things he did kinda began to stack, and at a certain point somethings got to give. Kieff will get over it, and if he doesn't then fine, we will trade him, but chances are he won't get to play his brother again for a while anyways. So he is better off making the best of the situation . Maybe if he does begin to play much better, he can see how this is a good move

I am sure AT THE TIME they thought they would take the guaranteed money then, rather than explore the open market because it would allow them to stay together. But the REALITY NOW is that they would probably not get that money given their off the court issues. If they felt they were owed staying together they should have had that written into the contract. The Suns gave them a great gift, the opportunity to play together as pros for a while. Now its reality.

[TeamTragic]

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Him and Dragic had great chemistry together, I think if they can get that back then Miami will be dangerous in the East.

That's right. Gerald Green will put Miami over the top

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JeffZillgitt/status/619623192236281856[/tweet]
Wow they got Amare too!

From max contract to $1.5M/year. Miami trying to emulate that Phoenix team that won the championship....oh wait

[Saberestar]

Jeff Zillgitt: Amar’e Stoudemire reaches deal with Heat, the team announced. I’ve been told it’s a one-year contract worth $1.5M. Stoudemire wants to win, play with All-Stars and on the same team with Goran Dragic, who he loves from their days together in Phoenix

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[tweet]https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick/status/619579749799739392[/tweet]
Him and Dragic had great chemistry together, I think if they can get that back then Miami will be dangerous in the East.

That's right. Gerald Green will put Miami over the top

I think getting Bosh back healthy itself should put them top 4. When Wade inevitably gets injured again, Green isn't an awful backup SG option for them.

[TeamTragic]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick/status/619579749799739392[/tweet]
Him and Dragic had great chemistry together, I think if they can get that back then Miami will be dangerous in the East.

That's right. Gerald Green will put Miami over the top

I think getting Bosh back healthy itself should put them top 4. When Wade inevitably gets injured again, Green isn't an awful backup SG option for them.

What if he misses the season? Then what?

[jcsunsfan]

With the Nets buy out of Deron Williams, Brooklyn is lacking a starting-caliber point guard. What about trading Brandon Knight to the Nets for Thaddeus Young and Rondae Hollis-Jefferson?

Why the Nets do it: Jarrett Jack is a great backup point guard, and a below average starting point guard. Knight is young and on a good contract and an average or above-average starting point guard.

Why the Suns do it: Bledsoe becomes the unquestioned starting point guard. Young can play both forward positions and is signed to a decent deal. Young is also in his prime right now (27 years old). The Suns also get a raw prospect on a rookie deal who has a chance to develop into a very special defender. Plus, Hollis-Jefferson has Arizona ties.

Bledsoe / Price / McNeal
Weems / Booker / Goodwin
Young / Tucker / Warren / Hollis-Jefferson
Morris / Teletovic / Luer
Chandler / Len

This would make both Morris and Tucker expendable in the right deal.

"No"

1. Because you cannot trade Knight so soon after signing a contract.
2. Because trading a FA so soon after signing a contract would send a bad message to all future free agents to stay away from the Suns.
3. Because we really believe in Knight, in fact, gave up the Laker pick for him. It would be silly to trade him for two mediocre players.
4. Because there is no reason to believe Sonny Weems is NBA starter caliber.
5. Because there is no reason to believe that Thaddeus Young is a true NBA starting caliber player. Yes.
6. Because the team is clearly worse after the trade than before it.
7. Because it pushes TJ Warren back further in the rotation.
8. Because we need another decent pg and we do not without Knight.
9. Because it remains to be seen whether Hollis-Jefferson has an NBA future at all.
10. Because Knight and Bledsoe have hardly played together.
11. Because it would make the Suns front office look like incompetent Schizos that cannot make up their minds on which way they really want to go.

I could probably list more reasons why this is a horrible idea.

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That's right. Gerald Green will put Miami over the top

I think getting Bosh back healthy itself should put them top 4. When Wade inevitably gets injured again, Green isn't an awful backup SG option for them.

What if he misses the season? Then what?

Their screwed unless Amare can rejuvenate himself.

[TeamTragic]

I think getting Bosh back healthy itself should put them top 4. When Wade inevitably gets injured again, Green isn't an awful backup SG option for them.

What if he misses the season? Then what?

Their screwed unless Amare can rejuvenate himself.

That's right. Lottery bound. Check out their payroll