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Re: 2015 

Post#21 » by Det the Threat » Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:06 am

El Turco wrote:depends, does gala give up its best players to the monopoly team of the league or as is?


If you had someone that the top teams which don't have to sell wanted(Real, Barca, Bayern, Chelsea, PSG etc.) then he'd certainly go.

Though, Gala seems to be more in the business of buying guys that other teams want to get rid off(because of different reasons), so I doubt many of your guys would go anywhere.
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Re: 2015 

Post#22 » by J-Mezzy » Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:34 am

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El Turco wrote:depends, does gala give up its best players to the monopoly team of the league or as is?


If you had someone that the top teams which don't have to sell wanted(Real, Barca, Bayern, Chelsea, PSG etc.) then he'd certainly go.

Though, Gala seems to be more in the business of buying guys that other teams want to get rid off(because of different reasons), so I doubt many of your guys would go anywhere.


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Re: 2015 

Post#23 » by J-Mezzy » Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:35 am

But f u. I'm on the Gala bandwagon for this season lol
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Re: 2015 

Post#24 » by DD12 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:33 pm

haha so many Galatasaray haters dude.

First of all, I don't blame Foye. Poor guy. His team will never ever be a significant team in Europe. It's like no one really gives a damn **** about his team. So, he is trying to talk **** about other significant teams so that get some attention. Come here Foye, i'll give you attention, i'll pet your head.

Magik, wow Sneijder still hurts bro? Seriously? Or it still hurts that you guys couldn't even beat us at Turin. We got 4 points from you and dumped you to the Europa League. Lmaoooo

Gladbach fan got hyped up since they did a bit well in BuLi. Poor guy have waited for this moment I don't know how many years in his life. Finally, Gladbach finished in top 4 to make Champions League. His dream came true since he never thought they would be back to top 4. But their dreams limited to this. They will never make top 8, top 16 like a significant club Galatasaray. Oh well what to do.

I get that your team is a piece of crap and you never thought you guys would finish top 4 but you gotta educate yourself with Champions League. Galatasaray was in the pot 3 about 3 years ago but still made top 8 with destroying Schalke. Next year, we were still in pot 3, and destroyed Juve to go through with Real Madrid. So don't be sure. Who knows we might have to play against you guys two games at home since Turks will take over the stadium from Germans in Germany ;)
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Re: 2015 

Post#25 » by Det the Threat » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:21 pm

DD12 wrote:Gladbach fan got hyped up since they did a bit well in BuLi. Poor guy have waited for this moment I don't know how many years in his life. Finally, Gladbach finished in top 4 to make Champions League. His dream came true since he never thought they would be back to top 4. But their dreams limited to this. They will never make top 8, top 16 like a significant club Galatasaray. Oh well what to do.

I get that your team is a piece of crap and you never thought you guys would finish top 4 but you gotta educate yourself with Champions League. Galatasaray was in the pot 3 about 3 years ago but still made top 8 with destroying Schalke. Next year, we were still in pot 3, and destroyed Juve to go through with Real Madrid. So don't be sure. Who knows we might have to play against you guys two games at home since Turks will take over the stadium from Germans in Germany ;)


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Dude, my club has done more in Europe then your club ever did.
So go and educate yourself about that before you try and talk some stuff about other clubs.

The team is also "****" enough to qualify for Europe three out of the last four seasons competing with the likes of Bayern, Dortmund, Schalke, Wolfsburg, Leverkusen etc.

I also wasn't badmouthing Gala in any way, given that I just stated what every one can see and that's you guys buying players that others don't want anymore, talking about international players.
You got Snijder because Inter were desperate to get rid off him and his salary.
Just a couple weeks ago you bought freakin Lukas Podolski who had no business playing for Arsenal anymore and couldn't even crack the rotation for a struggling Inter side.

So every team has to do it there way.
For you guys it's buying names that are willing to go to Turkey, while we go for younger guys that want to make a name for themselves.

"Destroying" Schalke isn't all that impressive given that we beat them regularly and you didn't "destroy" Juve, but rather somehow won a game over two days with strange weather conditions. Still heads up to you for beating them.

I'm also not worried about Turks making it a home game, given that it's more the other way around with Gladbach fans traveling like crazy and showing up 10,000 strong in Rome or Zurich over the last couple of years. 8-)

BTW: This is all I've got to say cause there's no way I'll keep spamming this thread with a useless conversation about how great Gala might or might not be...
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Re: 2015 

Post#26 » by No_20 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:22 pm

ManUtd will go far.

Darmian, Depay, Otamendi, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, maybe Lacazette? QFs at least.
Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash, Kevin Garnett, Toni Kroos, Pep Guardiola, Ernst Happel, Joachim Löw.
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Re: 2015 

Post#27 » by DD12 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:49 pm

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DD12 wrote:Gladbach fan got hyped up since they did a bit well in BuLi. Poor guy have waited for this moment I don't know how many years in his life. Finally, Gladbach finished in top 4 to make Champions League. His dream came true since he never thought they would be back to top 4. But their dreams limited to this. They will never make top 8, top 16 like a significant club Galatasaray. Oh well what to do.

I get that your team is a piece of crap and you never thought you guys would finish top 4 but you gotta educate yourself with Champions League. Galatasaray was in the pot 3 about 3 years ago but still made top 8 with destroying Schalke. Next year, we were still in pot 3, and destroyed Juve to go through with Real Madrid. So don't be sure. Who knows we might have to play against you guys two games at home since Turks will take over the stadium from Germans in Germany ;)


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Dude, my club has done more in Europe then your club ever did.
So go and educate yourself about that before you try and talk some stuff about other clubs.

The team is also "****" enough to qualify for Europe three out of the last four seasons competing with the likes of Bayern, Dortmund, Schalke, Wolfsburg, Leverkusen etc.

I also wasn't badmouthing Gala in any way, given that I just stated what every one can see and that's you guys buying players that others don't want anymore, talking about international players.
You got Snijder because Inter were desperate to get rid off him and his salary.
Just a couple weeks ago you bought freakin Lukas Podolski who had no business playing for Arsenal anymore and couldn't even crack the rotation for a struggling Inter side.

So every team has to do it there way.
For you guys it's buying names that are willing to go to Turkey, while we go for younger guys that want to make a name for themselves.

"Destroying" Schalke isn't all that impressive given that we beat them regularly and you didn't "destroy" Juve, but rather somehow won a game over two days with strange weather conditions. Still heads up to you for beating them.

I'm also not worried about Turks making it a home game, given that it's more the other way around with Gladbach fans traveling like crazy and showing up 10,000 strong in Rome or Zurich over the last couple of years. 8-)

BTW: This is all I've got to say cause there's no way I'll keep spamming this thread with a useless conversation about how great Gala might or might not be...


Oh yeah sorry my bad. You guys won UEFA cup in 1979 which was about 35 years ago in which I forgot to mention. Damn Monchengladbach is a great club. Which one do you think better Nottingham Forest which their last trophy was exactly 36 years ago or Monchengladbach? Are you **** kidding me? Most of us weren't even alive by then. Who gives a damn **** about 35 years ago. Last 15 years, Galatasaray has an UEFA Cup, Super Cup, 4-5 times out of group stages, a couple of times last 16 and lastly a quarter final while Monchengladbach is dealing with 10th, 11th, 12th position in Bundesliga. Just 4 years ago, you played playoff relegation matches to avoid second division.

Galatasaray would beat Leverkusen, Schalke, Wolfsburg, Dortmund etc. I don't know how you think it is an accomplishment for any team but let alone this shows what your team is capable of. You are saying it in a way it is like an accomplishment, huge goal to pass Schalke, Leverkusen etc. They are like okay teams at most. When Galatasaray beat Schalke, it was a normal result for me. Better team beat the other team. Leverkusen-Wolfsburg no different than Schalke. If we ever beat these teams, I wouldn't be soooo happy like we beat a world class team.

You do badmouthing just like every other German that's why most of the Europeans hate Germans because Germans think they know everything, they super uber good with everything but every single thing but others are ****, bad, awful. Yeah right.

After Sneijder came to Galatasaray, he again gained his composure and got #10 for Netherlands National Team. He wasn't even chosen when he was at Inter because of his problem with his ex-club. Just because he got into a conflict with Moratti doesn't make him a bad player. He is probably better than every single player at your club and if he ever joins Monchengladbach, he will be the most important player of your team. We got Bruma two years ago who was the wonderkid of European U-21 Championship. So I guess Sporting was trying to get rid of their wonderkid also. We got Telles who was the top 3 prospect LB in Brazil. We got Chedjou who was chosen best defender in Lille the year he came to us and he is 28 years old. How do you come up with your only players go there are the ones past their prime bull?

We got Lukas. We got him dirt cheap too. He will only make 2.2 million euro at Galatasaray while his third and fourth year are team option. We paid 3.5 million euro to Arsenal. It is a bargain for a player who has that much European experience. Don't be shock if he gets his composure back, he will be back to starting lineup of Germany and will succeed with us. I would be against this transfer if he was making 4-5 million a year with 10-15 million transfer fee to Arsenal. However, we got him so cheap and I am happy to give a shot with him.

We didn't destroy Juve? Dude we got 4 points from them. What else do you want us do? They got the draw at the 81st minute with a bs penalty at Turin and we beat them in Istanbul. We absolutely owned them.

Oh yeah I heard that story before. People were saying Dortmund fans are crazy, the stadium will be full of Dortmund fans in 2000, but when I got into the stadium, I saw triple Turks than Germans. So I know the end of your story don't worry. Germany will always be home game for Galatasaray. No matter where, no matter whom we play against.
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Re: 2015 

Post#28 » by El Turco » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:06 pm

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El Turco wrote:depends, does gala give up its best players to the monopoly team of the league or as is?


If you had someone that the top teams which don't have to sell wanted(Real, Barca, Bayern, Chelsea, PSG etc.) then he'd certainly go.

Though, Gala seems to be more in the business of buying guys that other teams want to get rid off(because of different reasons), so I doubt many of your guys would go anywhere.


who are these players nobody wants? looking at roster, sneijder was man utd target as late as winter break and would probably start for every team in the world except for handful of them. muslera the same. chedjou was the starting cb for the french champions, bruma was one of the most sought youngsters in the world, telles was targeted by real and sevilla, inter, napoli, fiorentina were all after melo when his contract was up but couldnt afford him.

seriously who are they? there is hamit and podolski but i bet 15 teams in bundesliga would go after them if they could afford the wages, after all hamit's lesser brother just led his team to fifth place in germany after he couldnt cut it in turkey.
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Re: 2015 

Post#29 » by Det the Threat » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:13 pm

DD12 wrote:Last 15 years, Galatasaray has an UEFA Cup, Super Cup, 4-5 times out of group stages, a couple of times last 16 and lastly a quarter final while Monchengladbach is dealing with 10th, 11th, 12th position in Bundesliga. Just 4 years ago, you played playoff relegation matches to avoid second division.


Unlike you I'm not coming in here talking about my club like we're the 2nd coming of Real, Barca or Bayern.

BTW: The Super Cup is a glorified pre-season game, so I don't regard it as something all that important. ;)

DD12 wrote:Galatasaray would beat Leverkusen, Schalke, Wolfsburg, Dortmund etc. I don't know how you think it is an accomplishment for any team but let alone this shows what your team is capable of. You are saying it in a way it is like an accomplishment, huge goal to pass Schalke, Leverkusen etc. They are like okay teams at most. When Galatasaray beat Schalke, it was a normal result for me. Better team beat the other team. Leverkusen-Wolfsburg no different than Schalke. If we ever beat these teams, I wouldn't be soooo happy like we beat a world class team.


Then why didn't you?
They played terrible last season and still easily put you away during the group stages.

Also, if those teams aren't all that impressive then why do you mention "destroying" Schalke? They're pretty meh at Champions League competition aside from that miracoulus run a couple years ago.

On top of that, I'm pretty sure that the teams you've mentioned are better competition then the ones you have to play to qualify for the Champions League.
Fenerbahce bought Andreas Beck, a right back our solid(but not great) left back Oscar Wendt ran circles around just a couple months ago as we smacked Hoffenheim by 4-1.

DD12 wrote:You do badmouthing just like every other German that's why most of the Europeans hate Germans because Germans think they know everything, they super uber good with everything but every single thing but others are ****, bad, awful. Yeah right.


What am I badmouthing?
Which top player in his prime is joining Gala currently?
I'm pretty sure it's the same amount of players that would join my club cause we(Gladbach) can't/won't pay the salary those guys would command.
In your case it's guys not considering Gala because the league isn't attractive at all and there's no realistic chance of winning the Champions League.

The rest about your rant about Germans is just expected given that you're the one stating to hate every German because of whatever you experienced or what not.

I'm actually not someone pointing the finger at others and encourage you to keep holding up the Gala colours. It's fine with me and I respect your team and history.
Though, If you do go out on a limb and talk trash about my team you gotta suck it up and respect the facts, no matter when the trophies were won.

So again, I'm not sure when I said that everything people/teams do, which aren't situated in Germany, is just bad or whatever. I actually watch others leagues as well and, like pretty much every other German, critisize stuff german teams do as well.
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Re: 2015 

Post#30 » by Foye » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:34 pm

DD12 wrote:haha so many Galatasaray haters dude.

First of all, I don't blame Foye. Poor guy. His team will never ever be a significant team in Europe. It's like no one really gives a damn **** about his team. So, he is trying to talk **** about other significant teams so that get some attention. Come here Foye, i'll give you attention, i'll pet your head.


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Re: 2015 

Post#31 » by Foye » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:38 pm

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DD12 wrote:Last 15 years, Galatasaray has an UEFA Cup, Super Cup, 4-5 times out of group stages, a couple of times last 16 and lastly a quarter final while Monchengladbach is dealing with 10th, 11th, 12th position in Bundesliga. Just 4 years ago, you played playoff relegation matches to avoid second division.


Unlike you I'm not coming in here talking about my club like we're the 2nd coming of Real, Barca or Bayern.

BTW: The Super Cup is a glorified pre-season game, so I don't regard it as something all that important. ;)

DD12 wrote:Galatasaray would beat Leverkusen, Schalke, Wolfsburg, Dortmund etc. I don't know how you think it is an accomplishment for any team but let alone this shows what your team is capable of. You are saying it in a way it is like an accomplishment, huge goal to pass Schalke, Leverkusen etc. They are like okay teams at most. When Galatasaray beat Schalke, it was a normal result for me. Better team beat the other team. Leverkusen-Wolfsburg no different than Schalke. If we ever beat these teams, I wouldn't be soooo happy like we beat a world class team.


Then why didn't you?
They played terrible last season and still easily put you away during the group stages.

Also, if those teams aren't all that impressive then why do you mention "destroying" Schalke? They're pretty meh at Champions League competition aside from that miracoulus run a couple years ago.

On top of that, I'm pretty sure that the teams you've mentioned are better competition then the ones you have to play to qualify for the Champions League.
Fenerbahce bought Andreas Beck, a right back our solid(but not great) left back Oscar Wendt ran circles around just a couple months ago as we smacked Hoffenheim by 4-1.

DD12 wrote:You do badmouthing just like every other German that's why most of the Europeans hate Germans because Germans think they know everything, they super uber good with everything but every single thing but others are ****, bad, awful. Yeah right.


What am I badmouthing?
Which top player in his prime is joining Gala currently?
I'm pretty sure it's the same amount of players that would join my club cause we(Gladbach) can't/won't pay the salary those guys would command.
In your case it's guys not considering Gala because the league isn't attractive at all and there's no realistic chance of winning the Champions League.

The rest about your rant about Germans is just expected given that you're the one stating to hate every German because of whatever you experienced or what not.

I'm actually not someone pointing the finger at others and encourage you to keep holding up the Gala colours. It's fine with me and I respect your team and history.
Though, If you do go out on a limb and talk trash about my team you gotta suck it up and respect the facts, no matter when the trophies were won.

So again, I'm not sure when I said that everything people/teams do, which aren't situated in Germany, is just bad or whatever. I actually watch others leagues as well and, like pretty much every other German, critisize stuff german teams do as well.


I don't even know why you bother to post all of this. It's not worth it. Discussions with Massimo are like talking against a wall. In fact, the wall might understand more.
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Re: 2015 

Post#32 » by Det the Threat » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:53 pm

Foye wrote:I don't even know why you bother to post all of this. It's not worth it. Discussions with Massimo are like talking against a wall. In fact, the wall might understand more.


Yeah, you're probably right. :P

The fun thing about it is those "conversations" always following the same pattern.

- talk about Gala being great and doing fantastic stuff
- other user has doubts and posts about it
- make fun of said users team to steer away the attention from Gala
- endless discussion about stuff that doesn't matter...

@El_Turco:
Yann Sommer has been linked to Juve and others before
Granit Xhaka has been linked to Juve, Inter, Napoli and Manchester United among others
Patrick Herrmann(and Max Kruse) has been linked to Manchester United and Tottenham
Tony Jantschke has been linked to Milan etc.
Chelsea has an option to buy Thorgan Hazard back

etc.

Should I talk about Gladbach being a "top 8" competitor in CL as well?
You gotta take those reports with a grain of salt, especially if they're from the english or italian press.

Also, United just signed 31 year old Bastian Schweinsteiger for €20M, as he had one year left on his deal.
He's done great things for Germany and Bayern, but hasn't played a full season in about five years and seems to only use his club the get fit for tournaments with the national team.
On top of it it's the english press while they have a dutch manager.
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Re: 2015 

Post#33 » by El Turco » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:10 pm

well that's just non sequitur, signing players nobody wanted is something you brought up, nothing to do with top 8 discussion.

but yeah gala made it to top 8 with the same core and worse overall team not long ago, even made it to last 16 with a coach that players didnt want to play for, so it is not the same as team that hasnt sniffed such heights in what, 35 years?
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Re: 2015 

Post#34 » by DD12 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:26 pm

Det the Threat wrote:Unlike you I'm not coming in here talking about my club like we're the 2nd coming of Real, Barca or Bayern.

BTW: The Super Cup is a glorified pre-season game, so I don't regard it as something all that important. ;)

Then why didn't you?
They played terrible last season and still easily put you away during the group stages.

Also, if those teams aren't all that impressive then why do you mention "destroying" Schalke? They're pretty meh at Champions League competition aside from that miracoulus run a couple years ago.

On top of that, I'm pretty sure that the teams you've mentioned are better competition then the ones you have to play to qualify for the Champions League.
Fenerbahce bought Andreas Beck, a right back our solid(but not great) left back Oscar Wendt ran circles around just a couple months ago as we smacked Hoffenheim by 4-1.

What am I badmouthing?
Which top player in his prime is joining Gala currently?
I'm pretty sure it's the same amount of players that would join my club cause we(Gladbach) can't/won't pay the salary those guys would command.
In your case it's guys not considering Gala because the league isn't attractive at all and there's no realistic chance of winning the Champions League.

The rest about your rant about Germans is just expected given that you're the one stating to hate every German because of whatever you experienced or what not.

I'm actually not someone pointing the finger at others and encourage you to keep holding up the Gala colours. It's fine with me and I respect your team and history.
Though, If you do go out on a limb and talk trash about my team you gotta suck it up and respect the facts, no matter when the trophies were won.

So again, I'm not sure when I said that everything people/teams do, which aren't situated in Germany, is just bad or whatever. I actually watch others leagues as well and, like pretty much every other German, critisize stuff german teams do as well.


Because you simply can't. Your team has been irrelevant for years and years. Last major success was in 1979. It has been 36 years. That's why you can't come here and tell us your team belongs to second tier. But I can. I have facts and stats. In last five years, my team made it out of group twice, once top 16 then top 8. My team beat Juventus, Real Madrid, Schalke etc. Not your team. Your team has even been competing at the level of my team is competing. You can't compare apples vs watermelon. Gotta compare apples vs apples. So you can compare your team to Kasimpasaspor, Cagliari, Hull City etc.

I have explained it so many times why we couldn't do it last year. I don't know how many more times I should tell you in order for you to understand? We had a terrible coach called Prandelli. That's why we couldn't compete. If we had who we have now or Fatih Terim, we could have qualified from the group. We have qualified from groups where Real Madrid, Juventus, Manchester United were our opponents. No reason why we couldn't qualify last year if not our ex-coach.

It is pretty impressive to beat Schalke to go through top 8 in Europe. You will not understand because your team probably never accomplished that goal in your lifetime. Just 9 years ago, you were relegated to second division. Then you came back up, 5 years later played playoff relegation matches. I told you where you team belongs to and what teams that you can compare to. You can't even beat Dynamo Kiev and coming here to underestimate Galatasaray who made top 16 and top 8 two years in a row past 5 years.

I told you to educate yourself. Andreas Beck went to Besiktas and not Fenerbahce. Fenerbahce also got Nani, Kjaer, Robin Van Persie. You can see those players in your dreams but those players will play for Fenerbahce in Istanbul.

Muslera, Sneijder are the ones came to my mind. They were at their best when they came to us. You are hilarious if you think we can land Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo in their prime. Once a player is in their prime as a superstar, they obviously go to Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, PSG. What kind of an idiotic question is that? You don't land prime superstars. Obviously we can't. Because there are bigger and better clubs than Galatasaray.

You have no facts just mumbling things that happened in 1970s. You started it, now deal with it. 8-)
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Re: 2015 

Post#35 » by El Turco » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:46 pm

DD12 wrote:Because there are bigger and better clubs than Galatasaray.


how dare you
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Re: 2015 

Post#36 » by J-Mezzy » Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:04 pm

Okay Mass, time to put up or shut up. If Gala get smacked around in the first round, will you stop bragging about them as much?

Putting other teams down is kinda ironic after last year's painful exit.
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Re: 2015 

Post#37 » by DD12 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:07 pm

J-Mezzy wrote:Okay Mass, time to put up or shut up. If Gala get smacked around in the first round, will you stop bragging about them as much?

Putting other teams down is kinda ironic after last year's painful exit.


Spain couldn't make it out of the group in the last WC. Should they keep quiet despite the fact they dominated football since 2000?
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Re: 2015 

Post#38 » by J-Mezzy » Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:19 pm

DD12 wrote:
J-Mezzy wrote:Okay Mass, time to put up or shut up. If Gala get smacked around in the first round, will you stop bragging about them as much?

Putting other teams down is kinda ironic after last year's painful exit.


Spain couldn't make it out of the group in the last WC. Should they keep quiet despite the fact they dominated football since 2000?


Have they dominated since 2000? Thought it was 2008. Either way, they can brag about how great their team WAS. I don't think many people would take them too seriously if they bragged about being the best right now after they got slapped around like a cheap whore in the WC. You gotta keep showing to be the best to brag about your team. Bragging about history is another thing.
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Re: 2015 

Post#39 » by DD12 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:35 am

I thought Barca is from Spain man? aren't they?
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Re: 2015 

Post#40 » by MaliBrah » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:45 am

I hope we get arsenal and gala again lool

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