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Of the Summer league guys, who would you most like to see make our team?

Mickey McConnell
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6%
Mike James
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50%
Josh Harrellson
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44%
 
Total votes: 52

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Re: Summer League Fun 

Post#301 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:42 am

AtheJ415 wrote:How many roster spots do we have available assuming McNeal gets cut? I'd like to add a promising player from the summer league instead of McNeal. Not necessarily McConnell, although he played well. Houston, for instance, can't keep Connor Wood and Montrezl.


Yes, a nice analysis of how many spots we have and which players might be available due to summer league teams, depth charts, etc, would be great to see.

I would be fine with Mickey based on what I saw today, but it's a small sample size, and he didn't really even score. You just know the guy is gonna work. I'm almost surprised he isn't related to TJ McConnell.
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Re: Summer League Fun 

Post#302 » by NTB » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:36 am

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1) McConnell = 4.35
2) TJ Warren = 2.4
3) Alex Len = 1.4
4) Archie Goodwin = 1.15


Props to McConnell. He definitely deserves a spot in roster.
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Re: Summer League Fun 

Post#303 » by JTrain » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:43 am

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Re: Summer League Fun 

Post#304 » by SarcasticSun » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:46 am

Something I noticed, Len didn't do very well trying to create for himself, however he did very well when assisted. Now, this has been Len's game throughout his career so far. My thinking is if he can't create against SL comp, he probably won't ever be the guy you can throw it to and have create offense, he will be more like an Ilgauskus or Ibaka type player if he stays healthy. Really solid player and nothing to scoff at, but he won't be your 1st or 2nd option.

Goodwin still looks raw, but he hit 3 jumpers including a three I believe which I think is the most I've seen him hit in a game..I'll have to see him shoot more but there was improvement.

Booker looked as expected, really solid on offense, lost at times on D. shot wasn't falling but it will eventually.

Warren, far and away the best player on the court today.
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Re: Summer League Fun 

Post#305 » by Damkac » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:07 am

Mayby I was expecting too much but I'm dissapointed with Goodwin and a bit with Len.
Archie has no idea what to do with the ball.
Len started the game bad but get better later. I was hoping to see some better one on one offence from him though. But most important is his D and rebounding looks good.

If Warren is not getting heavy minutes next year then I will be pissed-off.
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Post#306 » by TASTIC » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:16 am

nashrambler13 wrote:Yo does anyone know where I can find the whole game to watch after it is over? Plz help

You found a torrent yet? Let me know and I'll hook you up
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Post#307 » by Damkac » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:43 am

Porzingis is 7'3"? :o

Cheering for this guy but on the other hand if he become a star it would be tough thinking we could trade for him.
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Post#308 » by Revived » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:59 am

I know Hornacek is a shooting guru but damn I'm not sure if guys like Blesoe, Goodwin and Warren have made that much imprvovement under his coaching.

He needs to work with these guys more IMO.

Warren looked like he didn't even know a 3 is or scared of shooting a 3. He has almost everything else in his arsenal offensively, I wish he'd improve at this. He's gotta get more attempts especially in summer league which is just a glorified scrimmage.
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Post#309 » by Revived » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:16 am

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Kerrsed wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
Backstory?


Some hot-ass big tittied chick that Byron Scott has brought to 2 games now. The internet is trying to find out who she is.

http://www.brobible.com/sports/article/la-lakers-coach-byron-scotts-girl/

I thought you were going to say that's you shaking his hand in the hat :lol:

If that was Kerrsed, I'd have given him props for tryna mack on the girl sitting next to the woman Scott brought to the game.
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Re: Summer League Fun 

Post#310 » by Saberestar » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:07 am

SF88 wrote:I know Hornacek is a shooting guru but damn I'm not sure if guys like Blesoe, Goodwin and Warren have made that much imprvovement under his coaching.

He needs to work with these guys more IMO.

Warren looked like he didn't even know a 3 is or scared of shooting a 3. He has almost everything else in his arsenal offensively, I wish he'd improve at this. He's gotta get more attempts especially in summer league which is just a glorified scrimmage.

He can make some threes, but it's not his first or second option in his arsenal. The game yesterday it was "too easy" for him to need to shoot some threes, he knows is more efficient going to the rim or cutting to the basket without the ball.
I am not worried about this, because a ton of great scorers (like Wade or Big Dog Robinson ) didn't have a ton of 3p shots attempts per game and they were efficient every night for years.

I really liked the game, it was fun and our best players dominated the game. Len plays BIG. Booker better than expected...Archie have improved his shot for sure, look his free throws, and Warren can be a borderline All Star in 1-2 years if he improves his all around game.
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Post#311 » by Saberestar » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:16 am

"There was nerves there in the beginning," Booker said. "I'm in a grown man's league. If you don't do those things (all-around game), you'll get exposed. I know I have to take it serious. Every time I step out there, I have to step out with a chip on my shoulder.

"I was missing a lot of them (3-point shots) short but tomorrow I'll knock those same shots down."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2015/07/11/phoenix-suns-key-summer-quartet-leads-vegas-win/30039735/
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Post#312 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:50 pm

Bobby F'in Portis. If 3-4 from 3 is an indicator of what we can expect from him, then we made a big mistake passing him up. Even if Booker turns out to be a very good NBA player, will he be much better than Bogdan? I'm not so sure. Portis has a mean streak. I didn't understand why he slipped to 22.

The good news: so far, the guys who look like draft steals (Porzingis, Johnson, Turner, Oubre, Portis) all went to the east, which desperately needs the talent influx. A number of west selections (KAT, Russell, Mudiay, Cauley-Stein, Lyles) have been less impressive. A nice step toward balance.

... I would really like to know why we passed on Portis. Where were he and Booker on our board? I had suspected that we decided he wouldn't actually be able to stretch the floor with his awkward motion, that his tooughness wouldn't make up for his lack of athleticism. Now I'm dumbfounded. It's only game, it's only one game... but ****. If he plays that tough, AND can hit the 3, we just missed out on the perfect 4.
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Post#313 » by batsmasher » Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:30 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:Bobby F'in Portis. If 3-4 from 3 is an indicator of what we can expect from him, then we made a big mistake passing him up. Even if Booker turns out to be a very good NBA player, will he be much better than Bogdan? I'm not so sure. Portis has a mean streak. I didn't understand why he slipped to 22.

It certainly isn't. That shot is broken as fudgeballs. He shoots worse in practice lol.

With a shot though, his game is damn fine.
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Post#314 » by Steve Nashidis » Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:41 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:... I would really like to know why we passed on Portis. Where were he and Booker on our board? I had suspected that we decided he wouldn't actually be able to stretch the floor with his awkward motion, that his tooughness wouldn't make up for his lack of athleticism. Now I'm dumbfounded. It's only game, it's only one game... but ****. If he plays that tough, AND can hit the 3, we just missed out on the perfect 4.


Ι like the opportunity of a 18years Clay Thompson 2 instead of taking a big risk Portis stretch 4.

Moreover we have Markieef, Teletovic, Lueur and the 2014 we let our captain , Channing Frye to go to olrando.
So, in my opinion , Portis is not what we need and for the first time of our history draft , we have picked the best player at spot #13.
i try to forget why we had picked morris instead of Leonard and so many other busted picks.
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Re: Summer League Fun 

Post#315 » by Qwigglez » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:09 pm

I like Booker a lot. I had him pegged to go in the top 10 and thought maybe he would get stolen a pick before ours (like Lavine was last year).
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Post#316 » by JMac1 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:47 pm

SarcasticSun wrote: Len..........did very well when assisted......... he probably won't ever be the guy you can throw it to and have create offense, he will be more like an Ilgauskus or Ibaka type player. Really solid player and nothing to scoff at, but he won't be your 1st or 2nd option.
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That is how we should look at Len. Don't expect him to be the low dominant force, because he doesn't seem natural doing the Okafor moves in the paint. If you expect that an great defense, you won't be disappointed, if you expect Shaq down low, you will be nothing but a Len hater.

As long as he can be a starting center on a title team, you should be happy.
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Post#317 » by JMac1 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:54 pm

Steve Nashidis wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:... I would really like to know why we passed on Portis. Where were he and Booker on our board? I had suspected that we decided he wouldn't actually be able to stretch the floor with his awkward motion, that his tooughness wouldn't make up for his lack of athleticism. Now I'm dumbfounded. It's only game, it's only one game... but ****. If he plays that tough, AND can hit the 3, we just missed out on the perfect 4.


Ι like the opportunity of a 18years Clay Thompson 2 instead of taking a big risk Portis stretch 4.

Moreover we have Markieef, Teletovic, Lueur and the 2014 we let our captain , Channing Frye to go to olrando.
So, in my opinion , Portis is not what we need and for the first time of our history draft , we have picked the best player at spot #13.
i try to forget why we had picked morris instead of Leonard and so many other busted picks.
Sorry for my english


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You have to look at what the player does in SL and who he does it to. I saw Booker coming around screens taking smooth open J's, he can continue to do that in the NBA, I saw Portis bullying inferior talent, he won't have that in the NBA.....slow your roll. Portis did look good though, but taking open 3's with that wind up ugly slow delivery in the NBA?! That soft body and no hops? It will not be exposed in SL.
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Re: Summer League Fun 

Post#318 » by JMac1 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:59 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:
The good news: so far, the guys who look like draft steals (Porzingis, Johnson, Turner, Oubre, Portis) all went to the east, which desperately needs the talent influx. A number of west selections (KAT, Russell, Mudiay, Cauley-Stein, Lyles) have been less impressive. A nice step toward balance.


Can we please wait until they start playing against NBA talent before we even think about proclaiming steals?

A "He impressed so far, let's see how it translates," would suffice. We could say Goodwin is ready to be a super star because he got to the line at will yesterday.
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Post#319 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:25 pm

JMac1 wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:
The good news: so far, the guys who look like draft steals (Porzingis, Johnson, Turner, Oubre, Portis) all went to the east, which desperately needs the talent influx. A number of west selections (KAT, Russell, Mudiay, Cauley-Stein, Lyles) have been less impressive. A nice step toward balance.


Can we please wait until they start playing against NBA talent before we even think about proclaiming steals?

A "He impressed so far, let's see how it translates," would suffice. We could say Goodwin is ready to be a super star because he got to the line at will yesterday.


I was pretty careful with my language: "so far," "look like" and "less impressive." Not trying to draw conclusions (though I admit my concluding remark went too far: "nice step" isn't very equivocal). The only guy I'm fairly confident was an awful pick is Cauley-Stein. I really liked the way Porzingis played. I was also pretty clear when I noted that I'd be disappointed we didn't pick Portis if his 3-4 from 3 was indicative. I thought I used a sufficient number of qualifiers.

Goodwin doesn't pass the eye test. His true faults are ball handling and decision making. He has a quick first step, but if that fails, he can't change direction with a quick dribble, he doesn't keep his dribble and he doesn't create space. If he can't overwhelm his opponent, he has no plan B. He doesn't outsmart anyone. That's why he won't be a replacement-level player this year, and that's why Booker will immediately be more valuable.

For the record - I also loved the Booker pick. McD has taken the player I wanted at our spot in each of the last 3 drafts. But of course I'll be disappointed if Portis ends up a truly effective stretch 4. On that note, did anyone else notice that his form looked a bit different yesterday than it did in pre-draft workouts? More straight up, less bend-it-back-behind-the-head. I hope he goes 0-4 next game. It would make me feel better.
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Re: Summer League Fun 

Post#320 » by Cutter » Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:10 pm

Has anyone seen the starting lineup for today's game yet? I heard yesterday that Len will not play today being this is a back to back game. Has anyone confirmed this? if so, it might be why Alex Brown only played 10 minutes yesterday. He could be the starting C today.

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