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Re: Re: Masai Ujiri: Raptors Will Change Defensive Scheme For JV 

Post#121 » by Saciid11 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:48 pm

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Saciid11 wrote:That video say that, but they said Bosh wouldn't be ready anything soon and but I'm not making this up scouts at the time were saying Bosh wasn't gone be ready years to contribute... 5 might have exaggerated little bit, but I'm not far off...


Okay, well I was just as obsessed with the NBA draft then, as I am now, and that definitely wasn't the scouting report of Bosh coming out. Sure, he was young and skinny and he needed to put on weight, but all the scouting reports said he was going to contribute, on both ends, right away.

He played, started and was a good player in the NCAA to the point where he was drafted 4th overall before Wade. He wasn't a raw project like Bruno.



The scouts said he had one of the highest potential, but he wasn't ready to contribute right a way... Even the broadcasters though Kaman was better pick for Toronto cause he was ready to step in right away the center position and fit better with Raptors who were close to making the playoff at the time...
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Re: Re: Masai Ujiri: Raptors Will Change Defensive Scheme For JV 

Post#122 » by Duffman100 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:50 pm

Saciid11 wrote:The scouts said he had one of the highest potential, but he wasn't ready to contribute right a way... Even the broadcasters though Kaman was better pick for Toronto cause he was ready to step in right away the center position and fit better with Raptors who were close to making the playoff at the time...


So provide proof! As of right now you provided me a video which didn't say what you said it was going to say.

There's a difference between a player that still needs to develop and a player not contributing. Bosh was never labelled as someone who wasn't going to play/contribute in his rookie year. Just wasn't the case, never was. Maybe he wasn't going to contribute AS MUCH as Wade or Kaman, but people still had him pegged to get solid minutes no matter where he ended up.
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Post#123 » by raptor jesus » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:51 pm

Bosh was never considered a project. He was lean, but just 19, polished, smart, and an excellent shooter and shotblocker. Accordingly, he was thrust into a starting role (33 mpg) right away on a team with playoff aspirations.
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Re: Re: Masai Ujiri: Raptors Will Change Defensive Scheme For JV 

Post#124 » by Saciid11 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:13 pm

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Saciid11 wrote:The scouts said he had one of the highest potential, but he wasn't ready to contribute right a way... Even the broadcasters though Kaman was better pick for Toronto cause he was ready to step in right away the center position and fit better with Raptors who were close to making the playoff at the time...


So provide proof! As of right now you provided me a video which didn't say what you said it was going to say.

There's a difference between a player that still needs to develop and a player not contributing. Bosh was never labelled as someone who wasn't going to play/contribute in his rookie year. Just wasn't the case, never was. Maybe he wasn't going to contribute AS MUCH as Wade or Kaman, but people still had him pegged to get solid minutes no matter where he ended up.


Bosh was drafted for upside, he wasn't drafted to contribute anytime soon.. it's just that Bosh surprised everyone by showing allot of progress and he doesn't get allot of credit for that ...
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Re: Re: Masai Ujiri: Raptors Will Change Defensive Scheme For JV 

Post#125 » by Duffman100 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:16 pm

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Saciid11 wrote:The scouts said he had one of the highest potential, but he wasn't ready to contribute right a way... Even the broadcasters though Kaman was better pick for Toronto cause he was ready to step in right away the center position and fit better with Raptors who were close to making the playoff at the time...


So provide proof! As of right now you provided me a video which didn't say what you said it was going to say.

There's a difference between a player that still needs to develop and a player not contributing. Bosh was never labelled as someone who wasn't going to play/contribute in his rookie year. Just wasn't the case, never was. Maybe he wasn't going to contribute AS MUCH as Wade or Kaman, but people still had him pegged to get solid minutes no matter where he ended up.


Bosh was drafted for upside, he wasn't drafted to contribute anytime soon.. it's just that Bosh surprised everyone by showing allot of progress and he doesn't get allot of credit for that ...


K, you're just repeating something that isn't true now.
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Post#126 » by Saciid11 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:26 pm

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So provide proof! As of right now you provided me a video which didn't say what you said it was going to say.

There's a difference between a player that still needs to develop and a player not contributing. Bosh was never labelled as someone who wasn't going to play/contribute in his rookie year. Just wasn't the case, never was. Maybe he wasn't going to contribute AS MUCH as Wade or Kaman, but people still had him pegged to get solid minutes no matter where he ended up.


Bosh was drafted for upside, he wasn't drafted to contribute anytime soon.. it's just that Bosh surprised everyone by showing allot of progress and he doesn't get allot of credit for that ...


K, you're just repeating something that isn't true now.


If Bosh wasn't drafted for upside then why didn't we draft TJ Ford or Kaman or Wade ?? I'm pretty sure if Raptors drafted by need and readiness at the they would have drafted Kaman who was more ready and played position Raps needed or TJ Ford who would have probably started over Alvin William at the time... Wade could have started at point guard alongside Carter ...
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Re: Re: Masai Ujiri: Raptors Will Change Defensive Scheme For JV 

Post#127 » by Duffman100 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:30 pm

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Bosh was drafted for upside, he wasn't drafted to contribute anytime soon.. it's just that Bosh surprised everyone by showing allot of progress and he doesn't get allot of credit for that ...


K, you're just repeating something that isn't true now.


If Bosh wasn't drafted for upside then why didn't we draft TJ Ford or Kaman or Wade ?? I'm pretty sure if Raptors drafted by need and readiness at the they would have drafted Kaman who was more ready and played position Raps needed or TJ Ford who would have probably started over Alvin William at the time... Wade could have started at point guard alongside Carter ...


I have no issues with the upside comment. It's still the contributing right away and comparing him to Bruno.
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Post#128 » by Saciid11 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:34 pm

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K, you're just repeating something that isn't true now.


If Bosh wasn't drafted for upside then why didn't we draft TJ Ford or Kaman or Wade ?? I'm pretty sure if Raptors drafted by need and readiness at the they would have drafted Kaman who was more ready and played position Raps needed or TJ Ford who would have probably started over Alvin William at the time... Wade could have started at point guard alongside Carter ...


I have no issues with the upside comment. It's still the contributing right away and comparing him to Bruno.


Okay Bruno is exaggeration, but nobody was expecting Bosh to contribute like he did in his rookie and make that jump half way his second season like he did...
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Raptors Will Change Defensive Scheme For JV 

Post#129 » by Double Helix » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:35 am

I don't believe the OP's stated clip was ever confirmed by anyone else, nor was there a transcript provided but I found this.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/blakemurphyodc/status/619649413711921152[/tweet]

This was like a week before the Greer hire was made official. Combine that with Woj's news that Greer will be the team's defensive coordinator and I think we're onto somethi
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Re: Masai Ujiri: Raptors Will Change Defensive Scheme For JV 

Post#130 » by HeartBreaking » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:16 am

Double Helix wrote:I don't believe the OP's stated clip was ever confirmed by anyone else, nor was there a transcript provided but I found this.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/blakemurphyodc/status/619649413711921152[/tweet]

This was like a week before the Greer hire was made official. Combine that with Woj's news that Greer will be the team's defensive coordinator and I think we're onto somethi

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