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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#301 » by Braggins » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:25 am

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Braggins wrote:I wonder why the front office always emphasizes that players have to earn their minutes here when talking about rookies, but they promise roles to players acquired via trade like political appointments. Do they really think people buy it?

Might be their best selling point but it don't make sense in Batum's case. They prolly lured Fat Al by telling him the offense (Alfense) would be built around him and that's exactly what they did.

I could see it lol. Our main selling point to free agents is that they'll be gifted a promised role and we have a coach that wont hold them acountable unless theyre a big meanie head like Lance, at which point theyll get thrown under the bus to cover for all the good ol' hard workin positive attitude veterans.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#302 » by catch20two » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:26 am

Mystical Apples wrote:During Batum's tenure in Portland he always played with high usage/high efficiency guys: Matthews, Lamarcus, Lillard.
Or with Roy when McMillan was coaching. McMillan was not a creative offensive coach and ran isos and picks all day with Roy and Aldridge.

With Charlotte Batum immediately becomes their most efficient player and best playmaker

Nah that just show that he's content with being 3rd to 4th banana and won't assert himself but he'll be a solid role player.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#303 » by Mystical Apples » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:27 am

I hope Lamb can earn solid minutes and plays well. Everyone wins there. But thinking Batum is supplanted by another player is not going to happen. He's the only wing they have that works with any lineup combo and has no offense to defense deficiencies
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#304 » by yosemiteben » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:28 am

catch20two wrote:Yea them guaranteeing Batum a starting gig at a position he never started at fresh off a Lance-esque season was and still is kinda dumb.

I try to just ignore you when you go into troll mode, but I'll indulge you just this once.

Last season Batum shot three times as many threes as Lance and nearly doubled Lance's 3PT%. Batum's TS% last season was 51.6%, compared to Lance's embarrassing 41.9%, and would have been around top 5 on our team.

You want to talk like Batum had a "Lance-esque" season, but that just shows that Batum can play way below his career averages and still be one of our best offensive options.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#305 » by Mystical Apples » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:30 am

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Mystical Apples wrote:During Batum's tenure in Portland he always played with high usage/high efficiency guys: Matthews, Lamarcus, Lillard.
Or with Roy when McMillan was coaching. McMillan was not a creative offensive coach and ran isos and picks all day with Roy and Aldridge.

With Charlotte Batum immediately becomes their most efficient player and best playmaker

Nah that just show that he's content with being 3rd to 4th banana and won't assert himself but he'll be a solid role player.


It shows he's content being the best teammate possible. Measuring a players "assertiveness" through only scoring seems so 2001.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#306 » by catch20two » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:30 am

LofJ wrote:http://youtu.be/ncg2yxDQ1CM

If Jeremy Lamb can do this, play great defense, and facilitate on offense he'll have a chance to eat into Batum/MKG's minutes. They will definitely be easier said than done. He's easily our 3rd wing though so he's going to get plenty of opportunity. I'm really excited to see what he can do.

Before that 27pt game he had 0 points the game before. Then scored 8, 3, 5, and 4 points the next 4 games. Lol
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#307 » by Flip Murray » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:32 am

Because the guy who started 71 games despite being injured on a team that won 51 games last year will come off the bench in Charlotte. Come on now guys get real.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#308 » by catch20two » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:33 am

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catch20two wrote:Yea them guaranteeing Batum a starting gig at a position he never started at fresh off a Lance-esque season was and still is kinda dumb.

I try to just ignore you when you go into troll mode, but I'll indulge you just this once.

Last season Batum shot three times as many threes as Lance and nearly doubled Lance's 3PT%. Batum's TS% last season was 51.6%, compared to Lance's embarrassing 41.9%, and would have been around top 5 on our team.

You want to talk like Batum had a "Lance-esque" season, but that just shows that Batum can play way below his career averages and still be one of our best offensive options.

Can't be considered a offensive option when you only score 10ppg per 36 minutes. Might as well chill in MKG's shame corner. MKG averaged more points per minute.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#309 » by catch20two » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:36 am

Matter of fact. MKG averaged more points than Batum period in 5 less minutes per game.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#310 » by Mystical Apples » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:40 am

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catch20two wrote:Yea them guaranteeing Batum a starting gig at a position he never started at fresh off a Lance-esque season was and still is kinda dumb.

I try to just ignore you when you go into troll mode, but I'll indulge you just this once.

Last season Batum shot three times as many threes as Lance and nearly doubled Lance's 3PT%. Batum's TS% last season was 51.6%, compared to Lance's embarrassing 41.9%, and would have been around top 5 on our team.

You want to talk like Batum had a "Lance-esque" season, but that just shows that Batum can play way below his career averages and still be one of our best offensive options.

Can't be considered a offensive option when you only score 10ppg per 36 minutes. Might as well chill in MKG's shame corner. MKG averaged more points per minute.


Ha yeah. Jacking up 20 shots a game when you can create even better options with your passing isn't being assertive, it's damaging. Anyone can shoot. Not everyone can shoot efficiently (like Batum). Averaging 6.6 rebounds from the wing and being the teams best perimeter defender is being assertive.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#311 » by yosemiteben » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:44 am

catch20two wrote:Can't be considered a offensive option when you only score 10ppg per 36 minutes. Might as well chill in MKG's shame corner. MKG averaged more points per minute.

I mean you have to know what the obvious rebuttal to this is, right? I'll just look past the fact that you ignore his injury, because that's the sort of trollish **** I expect from you and don't feel the need to emphasize it again. POR had a top 10 offense with three other starters who were high volume shooters and needed the ball, all of whom far surpass the sort of offensive efficiency that anyone currently on our roster has shown capable of producing. Ignoring the difference in team needs while trying to criticize Batum is obviously a poor way to analyze his potential fit here.

I'll leave you to your "subtle" trolling.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#312 » by Mystical Apples » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:44 am

Flip Murray wrote:Because the guy who started 71 games despite being injured on a team that won 51 games last year will come off the bench in Charlotte. Come on now guys get real.


Not to mention shouldered even more of the defensive load when Matthews went down. The more asked of him the better he became.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#313 » by Mystical Apples » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:48 am

Biggest potential problem with Batum will be too many minutes. There are literally no game situations forcing him off the court. When was the last time Charlotte had a player like that?
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#314 » by catch20two » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:48 am

Mystical Apples wrote:
Flip Murray wrote:Because the guy who started 71 games despite being injured on a team that won 51 games last year will come off the bench in Charlotte. Come on now guys get real.


Not to mention shouldered even more of the defensive load when Matthews went down. The more asked of him the better he became.

Because he damn sure didn't shoulder anymore of the offensive load. Lol
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#315 » by catch20two » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:51 am

yosemiteben wrote:
catch20two wrote:Can't be considered a offensive option when you only score 10ppg per 36 minutes. Might as well chill in MKG's shame corner. MKG averaged more points per minute.

I mean you have to know what the obvious rebuttal to this is, right? I'll just look past the fact that you ignore his injury, because that's the sort of trollish **** I expect from you and don't feel the need to emphasize it again. POR had a top 10 offense with three other starters who were high volume shooters and needed the ball, all of whom far surpass the sort of offensive efficiency that anyone currently on our roster has shown capable of producing. Ignoring the difference in team needs while trying to criticize Batum is obviously a poor way to analyze his potential fit here.

I'll leave you to your "subtle" trolling.

If he's 4th banana on POR no matter the changing parts then he's a role player that won't step up. Nothing wrong with being a role player. He's as good as it gets at being a role player. A former go to scorer turned role player in Iggy just won Finals MVP. It's okay. Batum is a role player. I just hope he don't shoot like he did last year. We're gonna need him to average his career high 15ppg this season.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#316 » by vorbis » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:45 pm

btw, there's a Batum thread for you guys to hammer away to your hearts' content.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#317 » by RealHusky » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:09 am

Jeremy is a very good shooter. He has not got his opportunity yet. I hope he will get a chance to shine this year.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#318 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:33 pm

RealHusky wrote:Jeremy is a very good shooter. He has not got his opportunity yet. I hope he will get a chance to shine this year.

His issue is he is aloof. That's why kemba' intensity is the perfect compliment. Jeremy needs a nudge. He has gifts on offense but just found himself in situations that didn't compliment his approach. He has the talent he's just not a take-charge personality for someone with his gifts. Give him hendo minutes, looks and shots per game and he could easily be a solid third option on a playoff team.
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#319 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:49 pm

I can't wait to see if Lamb live up to the expectations I had of him had Charlotte acquired him. He's here now. It's going to be interesting to see if Lamb can steal some minutes and possibly become a starter by season's end. I see most believe that he'll only receive about 18 minutes per game, but I think he'll get about 25 minutes per game somehow rather it's earned or by default due to injury considering that both MKG & Batum are injury prone
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Re: Robin to Kemba's Batman - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#320 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:01 pm

Lamb is our only true shooting guard. Unless you want to count pj and you shouldn't. He will find those minutes. Kemba won't let him cheat himself. He pushes Jeremy.
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