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Jennings Predictions

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What's your prediction for Jennings?

Traded before the season
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5%
Traded during the season
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51%
Stays all season then leaves as a free agent
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25%
Stays all season and Pistons extend him
11
19%
 
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#41 » by Spider156 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:50 pm

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Spider156 wrote:I do believe we probably have one more trade happening this season involving players Jennings/Meeks/Morris/Ilyasova.

The one thing SVG has shown us is that he isn't going to have an unreasonable bias towards "his guys" like Joe was guilty of time and time again as a decision maker.

He signed DJ, who was playing fantastic and didn't hesitate to trade him when an upgrade was made available in Reggie Jackson.

I don't think the trade discussions are ever shut down with him, at least not until we're a legitimate title contender. Then you don't try to rock the boat while making upgrades. But, we're a far cry from that point.

I think "his guys" consist of the players he believes has a future here. He chose Jameer Nelson for some reason and kept him. The same will happen to Jackson and Johnson and probably Drummond. Players like Augustin you don't really build a franchise around. That's still up for debate whether he'll trade guys he thinks were part of the core that is if a better offer comes along or his guys don't pan out as well as he expects.
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#42 » by Kilo » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:06 pm

Wesley Matthews, coming off a achilles tendon tear in March gets a 4 yr max deal from Dallas and has other bidders, Jennings achilles tear was in January so he should be two months ahead of Wes' recovery - are we underselling the trade value of Jennings right now? Was Jennings tear more severe or something? How come no questions surrounding Matthews caliber when he comes back?
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#43 » by DBC10 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:34 pm

^Wes got vastly overpayed, it's pretty simple.

Look at the history of athletes coming off achilles tears, it's really awful, and one can even say it's a death sentence. Cuban had to give him a fat contract to look good for FAs in the future.
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#44 » by princeofpalace » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:04 pm

Kilo wrote:Wesley Matthews, coming off a achilles tendon tear in March gets a 4 yr max deal from Dallas and has other bidders, Jennings achilles tear was in January so he should be two months ahead of Wes' recovery - are we underselling the trade value of Jennings right now? Was Jennings tear more severe or something? How come no questions surrounding Matthews caliber when he comes back?


Exactly this. Matthews was highly coveted this FA, Toronto wanted him and Kings offered him max money. SVG sounds like he's being very cautious with Jennings timetable but lets remember SVG was saying the same stuff about Dinwiddie last year
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#45 » by Laimbeer » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:04 am

Kilo wrote:Wesley Matthews, coming off a achilles tendon tear in March gets a 4 yr max deal from Dallas and has other bidders, Jennings achilles tear was in January so he should be two months ahead of Wes' recovery - are we underselling the trade value of Jennings right now? Was Jennings tear more severe or something? How come no questions surrounding Matthews caliber when he comes back?


Interesting. I didn't realize Matthews has the same injury.
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#46 » by coordinator0 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:46 am

DBC10 wrote:^Wes got vastly overpayed, it's pretty simple.

Look at the history of athletes coming off achilles tears, it's really awful, and one can even say it's a death sentence. Cuban had to give him a fat contract to look good for FAs in the future.


This. Dallas giving Matthews the max is insane in my opinion. With his playing style there's a chance that he might not be impacted as much by this injury but it's still a huge risk.

Their timetables are roughly a month apart since Jennings tore his Achilles during the last week of January and Matthews tore his in the first week of March but it's probably not going to end up as much of a difference. If they follow a similar path as those who suffered the same injury before them then neither will be particularly useful this season.
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#47 » by 313 Professor » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:37 pm

I want to keep him... He's 25!
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#48 » by DetroitSho » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:55 pm

coordinator0 wrote:
DBC10 wrote:^Wes got vastly overpayed, it's pretty simple.

Look at the history of athletes coming off achilles tears, it's really awful, and one can even say it's a death sentence. Cuban had to give him a fat contract to look good for FAs in the future.


This. Dallas giving Matthews the max is insane in my opinion. With his playing style there's a chance that he might not be impacted as much by this injury but it's still a huge risk.

Their timetables are roughly a month apart since Jennings tore his Achilles during the last week of January and Matthews tore his in the first week of March but it's probably not going to end up as much of a difference. If they follow a similar path as those who suffered the same injury before them then neither will be particularly useful this season.

Well can we consider the differences between the Pistons training staff and Portland's training staff and how the results of those rehabs might be quite different?
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#49 » by MotownMadness » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:08 pm

Wes Matthews is also a lot better player then Jennings has ever shown to be.
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#50 » by Billl » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:14 pm

I think Jennings will get dealt. I think he's going to give effort and play within the system, but I don't think he's going to excel as a bench player. Based on his style of play, you might think he'd be a great bench gunner, but I don't think he has the mentality for it. He gets down on his shot for long stretches of games. For a guy who talks so cocky, he really has a some mental hangups where he lets slumps get to him.
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#51 » by Redeemed » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:08 pm

I'm assuming Jennings will not regain his full speed this season. This of course is an assumption based on the time it has taken other players to recover from the same injury. The major difference between Jennings and the other players is age - so I guess there's a possibility that he could potentially come into the season with his impressive speed.

Even if that's the case, the franchise has moved on with Jackson. This leads to my greatest concern. Jennings has been a pretty immature and moody kid during his time in the league. Whether he's pouting because Cheeks getting fired or pouting because he's being outplayed by his backup, the dude can mercurial.

Best case scenario: We have a highly competitive training camp that leads into a season opening win streak. Jennings drinks the kool aide and plays the good soldier as a means of reclaiming his career. No attitude issues. No pouting. No lockerroom cancer. No twitter rants. If this results in him being an integral part of a playoff run, so be it. If this results in us moving him for assets and we still make a playoff run with our chemistry intake so be it.

I'm hoping we win with this new direction
I'm hoping Jennings plays well for us
I'm hoping Dinwiddie gets more stable and consistent
I'm hoping for no drama, just wins
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#52 » by The Penguin » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:25 pm

The problem with trading Jennings is "where to?" PG is the most loaded position in the league and Denver is shopping a much better player than Jennings in Lawson with little luck on a decent return. Outside of Philly (clearly not trying to win and would want assets for his contract), the Knicks (literally nothing to give), the Nets (ditto) and maybe Utah, I struggle to come up with a decent landing spot.
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#53 » by thesack12 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:34 am

Seeing as how Jennings is an expiring, that will always hold a certain degree of value. Obviously how he bounces back from the injury is the biggest indicator of what his value is.

I could envision scenarios where Houston, Indiana, even San Antonio being interested.

Houston has Beverly as their main PG, and he leaves a lot to be desired.
Indiana has Hill who is solid but nothing spectacular
San Antonio doesn't have much behind Parker and they are obviously in win now mode

I also wouldn't be shocked if Orlando may be interested to have somebody to push Payton this season. There is also the possibility that injury strikes one of the contender's PG and they will need short term help.

If Jennings shows to be somewhat healthy there will probably be a market for him.
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#54 » by 313 Professor » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:59 am

The Penguin wrote:The problem with trading Jennings is "where to?" PG is the most loaded position in the league and Denver is shopping a much better player than Jennings in Lawson with little luck on a decent return. Outside of Philly (clearly not trying to win and would want assets for his contract), the Knicks (literally nothing to give), the Nets (ditto) and maybe Utah, I struggle to come up with a decent landing spot.


This was another problem I had with RJ getting such a huge deal... I would rather have overpaid Rondo 1 or 2 years and/or potentially extended Jennings depending on his health, while matching any RJ deal under a certain number but letting him go for too high. Everybody has a PG, and there are PG's all around the league. Why we overpaid Jackson as a PG after such a short stretch of up and down solid statistical but losing ball makes little sense. Stan's system turns everybody (literally) into a solid stats PG. Jennings, Rondo, and Dinwiddie could ALL be better than RJ next year at the point and all 5 years of his contract and I think they ALL will be.

As a verstaile combo guard I still think RJ is a good piece but not at that price
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Re: Jennings Predictions 

Post#55 » by Billl » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:43 pm

Oh good lord. We finally get a quality 2 way pg and guys are complaining about how much he's getting paid. RJ wasn't with the pistons long, but he's shown a ton of potential during that time. He also has a track record with OKC including an impressive playoff run. When he got his chance, he made the most of it. This is just the type of risk you have to take with a promising young player. If you wait until they are establish all-stars, there is no chance of signing them as free agents and virtually no chance of trading for them.

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