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Post#1 » by aussiewill » Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:53 am

Well there are plenty of reports we are discussion with Javaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaale McGeeeeeeeeeee. Not sure how he will work with Carlisle, but he is a poor mans DJ in a way. Heck, with our track record, we'll probably sign him for 2 years with a PO, has a great year, opts out and goes elsewhere. Seems to be a regular occurrence around these parts anyway...
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Post#2 » by dirkforpres » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:15 am

Hey, if we aren't tanking and can get numbers that he was putting up in Denver, then I'll be happy... he is a great defender and extremely athletic but he has basketball IQ that rivals little leaguers. I would love for us to get both him and Seraphin just to give us a little more youth and athleticism.. I hope they can work something out
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Post#3 » by FAH1223 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:16 am

Wonder if Carlisle will put him in the doghouse like Wittman did
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Post#4 » by 12footrim » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:27 am

Parchullia's been averaging about 24 minutes per game. Rotoworld was indicating that McGee wouldn't play much behind Parchullia but I don't see how that's possible as Zaza's not been a 30+ minute guy much of ever in his career and will turn 32 during the season. If I'm Dallas I think I would lean more towards trying to give McGee the longer leash and play him only being 27-28 years old. Seems like more potential and upside there than with Zaza.

The crappy 2 year contract is what kept him from signing with Boston. He wants that player option 2nd year and I don't much blame him. I think he'll end up getting it as well or a more lucrative one year contract.
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Post#5 » by Nowitness » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:32 am

He's a homeless man's DJ which is the best thing on the market at this point. Gets you solid stats if healthy, but obviously a lot of boneheaded decisions. Would be interested in seeing him be signed for cheap, this team needs athletic bigs.
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Post#6 » by SaintofKillers » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:47 am

DJ? More like Brandan Wright... who went on to carve an unforgettable niche in Dallas as a lob recipient and blocked a few shots. I'm sure McGee can easily do that, and then some.
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Post#7 » by jpengland » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:41 am

Low risk, high reward signing.

He's a bonehead but if he is just tasked with running the floor, blocking shots and finishing lobs - he will do fine. And if he doesn't do that, Carlisle will bench him.

I like it as a 1 plus 1 deal.
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Post#8 » by bobsquad » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:48 am

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Post#9 » by 2011Champs » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:20 pm

I think Javale would be exactly what Dallas needs to round out the roster. I just would hope Rick Carlisle can live with some of his mistakes and not bury him in the doghouse forever. I would hope he could play like Brandan Wright with better rebounding. We shall see. Mark Cuban was wanting a guy that can play above the rim. If Dallas could also get Seraphin, that would be a good center rotation: Zaza, McGee, Seraphin.
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Post#10 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:53 pm

I want this even less than I want DWill which I really do not want. Unless the goal is drive Rick Carlisle out of Dallas I don't understand this. He sucks. Would rather just overpay Dalembert for a year.
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Post#11 » by sweet daddy » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:53 pm

Look out, Western Conference. The Mighty Mavs are comin' to get you this year ... :roll: :banghead:
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Post#12 » by fuller4379 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:23 pm

He is worth a look for something like 2 years and $6 million. I would hate to pay him more than about $3 million per year though since he has only played 28 games in the last two seasons. It is a low risk signing with a small potential for a high reward. More than likely you get next to nothing from him though. Better than signing Greg Oden who is pretty much guaranteed to be injured all season.
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Post#13 » by 12footrim » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:35 pm

Chuck Texas wrote:I want this even less than I want DWill which I really do not want. Unless the goal is drive Rick Carlisle out of Dallas I don't understand this. He sucks. Would rather just overpay Dalembert for a year.


In what universe is DWill at 5 million a year not wanted? Especially when the alternatives were JJ Barea and Devin Harris. That was a good value pick up just like McGee would be at anything around 3 million. You don't get scrub bigs for 3 million usually not even guys like Greg Stiesma. I'd certainly roll the dice on a 27 year old like McGee at this point.
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Post#14 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:45 pm

No doubt the contract is fine for Deron. But too many reports about him being very very difficult to work with make me not want him. Dirk doesn't need to end his career with another disgruntled PG who isn't team 1st. Would rather roll with guys who really want to be here and play hard. Now maybe he does want to be here and sees this as the last chance to salvage somethign from his career, but I really don't trust him.

And McGee just isn't good at basketball. I know guys get excited because of his freak athleticism, but so what? He has no basketball IQ, no work ethic, and no will to improve. He's already getting paid by the Sixers so there would be no need for the MAvs to overpay him. I don't want him for a min contract, but he certainly shouldn't get more.

I'm surprised people who follow the MAvs don't understand that more goes into a team than just talent. You have to take more than that into account. The most talented team we ever had was in 2004 and that was a horrible mismash of pieces. It killed our momentum we were building and took the ball away from Nash. He may never consider leaving if we hadn't brought in Walker and Jamison and run the offense through Walker for much of the year.

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Post#15 » by fuller4379 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:48 pm

Chuck Texas wrote:No doubt the contract is fine for Deron. But too many reports about him being very very difficult to work with make me not want him. Dirk doesn't need to end his career with another disgruntled PG who isn't team 1st. Would rather roll with guys who really want to be here and play hard. Now maybe he does want to be here and sees this as the last chance to salvage somethign from his career, but I really don't trust him.

And McGee just isn't good at basketball. I know guys get excited because of his freak athleticism, but so what? He has no basketball IQ, no work ethic, and no will to improve. He's already getting paid by the Sixers so there would be no need for the MAvs to overpay him. I don't want him for a min contract, but he certainly shouldn't get more.

I'm surprised people who follow the MAvs don't understand that more goes into a team than just talent. You have to take more than that into account. The most talented team we ever had was in 2004 and that was a horrible mismash of pieces. It killed our momentum we were building and took the ball away from Nash. He may never consider leaving if we hadn't brought in Walker and Jamison and run the offense through Walker for much of the year.

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I know that chemistry and flow is very important. Playing a few years together helps a lot, but management has been more focused on trying to catch the big fish than drafting and developing a team with a long-term plan. I would have preferred if we resigned Chandler and Ellis instead of going fishing this year. I think Ellis had worn out his welcome though.

The Mavs really got screwed over by DJ and now are looking for anyone with potential. McGee was a solid player prior to the fractured tibia. My big concern of course is that his heart doesn't seem to be in the game. He didn't play last season after getting released by the 76ers. Hopefully, DWill just couldn't take the pressure of being in NY and being on a huge contract. Just like McGee this could pay dividends but it might go down in flames. Some players respond to a second chance but some don't. Rondo has always been lazy. In Boston he would only show up in the big games. All Rondo had to do was try hard for the Mavs and he would have gotten a huge deal this offseason. He failed miserably at that.

Matthews scares the crap out of me. We are paying top dollars for four years for someone coming off a ruptured Achilles tendon. My understanding is most players never return from this injury. Once again - THE ONLY WAY FOR THE MAVS TO LURE A FREE AGENT IS TO OVERPAY THEM.

Other teams find and develop players who are not top 10 draft choices. Why can't we? Jordon was a second round pick. Parsons was a second round pick. Mathews was undrafted. The last two decent draft picks we made were Josh Howard in 2003 and Devin Harris in 2004. The only other player that I can think of that we developed was J.J. Barea.
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Post#16 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:53 pm

well we have developed some scrap heap FA's: Brandon Bass and Brandon Wright both come immediately to mind. And heck we just turned Aminu from a guy taking a min deal to a guy getting $30M. Jae Crowder was a pretty good 2nd round pick.

The organization made a choice to use our draft picks as trade assets. Its hard to argue with that too hard considering the elongated run we have had, but I'd agree that I'd feel better if we hadn't missed so badly on the few picks we did make. And I think its possible once Cuban finally realizes he has to fully rebuild that Donnie will get re-assigned or be allowed to pursue opportunities elsewhere. He does a really good job in making good value trades and identifying smart veterans to add, but his ability to evaluate young talent is iffy at best.
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Post#17 » by catalyst » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:57 pm

These circumstances are what happens when you refuse to take the draft seriously and you shoot the moon every free agency year. We are seeing this even from 2015 draft with Upshaw performance in Vegas. At least he could have backup up at 5. I am ready for mavs to get out of the middle. Will not happen for real until Dirk hangs it up.
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Post#18 » by Teffer10 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:33 pm

catalyst wrote:These circumstances are what happens when you refuse to take the draft seriously and you shoot the moon every free agency year. We are seeing this even from 2015 draft with Upshaw performance in Vegas. At least he could have backup up at 5. I am ready for mavs to get out of the middle. Will not happen for real until Dirk hangs it up.


Completely agree Cat.
What we experienced the past 4 years is what we can expect until Dirk retires.
The Mayos, Ellis, Rondos, Odoms, McGee and instances like DJ will continue until the day Dirk moves on.
Unfortunately it will be torture for the fans in the process.
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Post#19 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:08 pm

So Stein is reporting we are going to explore Dalembert again. But still saying that if JaVale looks healthy he's at the top of the list. Thanks a lot DeAndre.
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Post#20 » by Teffer10 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:30 pm

Chuck Texas wrote:So Stein is reporting we are going to explore Dalembert again. But still saying that if JaVale looks healthy he's at the top of the list. Thanks a lot DeAndre.

The problem is we are down to McGee, Dalembert and Hollins.
Pick your poison.

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