Reggie Jackson Resigns 5/80

[hoophabit]

LAS VEGAS -- Two years ago, John Wall's max contract extension for five years and $80 million went under heavy scrutiny. Now, getting the two-time All-Star who has led the Wizards to the Eastern Conference semifinals twice since then, looks like a bargain.

"People talk about me getting $80 million, now you got people getting $85 million that haven't made the All-Star (Game) or anything like that," Wall said Tuesday while watching his summer league team compete vs. the Dallas Mavericks at Thomas & Mack Center. "I guess they came in at the right time. That new CBA kicked in and they're good now. Reggie Jackson gets five years, $80 million. I'm getting the same as Reggie Jackson."

http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/john-wall-im-getting-same-reggie-jackson

what a clown

A lot of people on here rationalize these deals as outsiders pointing to the market as the cause which is a legitimate reason. But, like I've mentioned in other threads, as professionals at their craft seeing somebody get paid equal to you that is not equal to you on the floor pisses these guys off. The idea that Reggie Jackson is making the same as a guy like Wall, and got more than Rondo, Monta Ellis, etc is truly disturbing to them. Kyle Lowry and Derozan are all-star caliber players yet Demarre Carroll comes to town making more than them. The media and air of political correctness in society keeps the players from going wild, but Wall has a very legitimate point and I agree with him 100%.

All the analytics, strategy, schemes, character judgments, and age aside the players know who can ball. The guys that are playmakers legitimately laugh at these 3&D guys and Reggie Jackson type players getting paid and then it gets offensive. RJ is gonna have a target on his back as "Mr. 80 Million Dollars" now, because he definitely hasn't earned 80 million in respect from the players. I think it's very likely he chokes and folds under that pressure too because he's not a baller like that. He's a SVG scheme stats player and he's kinda soft honestly. Jennings & Dinwiddie probably don't even respect Reggie as a human being or player, and are secretly going to enjoy every second of him crumbling with real ballers behind him and real expectations on him for the 1st time in his career. I feel you Brandon. I feel you Spencer. I feel you J-Wall. RJ is the scrub overpaid and overrated player you think he is. #ventover

Oh, come on, how do you really feel? Don't hold back!

[joedumars1]

Alot bigger sample size from Wall, but last year with Detroit

RJ 17.6 PPG, 9.2 Assist, 4.7 Boards, 3.5 Turnovers

Wall 17.6 PPG, 10 Assist, 4.6 Boards, 1.7 Steals, 3.8 Turnovers

Biggest difference imo, one was drafted 1st overall.

[JLiv]

"That's what happens," Wall said. "But I'm happy for all those guys. To see anybody get the opportunity to live their dream out, get the opportunity to take care of their family when they can, it's a blessing."


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Not that big of a deal. You guys need to think about salaries as a percentage of the cap, not about the dollar amount when talking about player worth.

[Neptune]

Alot bigger sample size from Wall, but last year with Detroit

RJ 17.6 PPG, 9.2 Assist, 4.7 Boards, 3.5 Turnovers

Wall 17.6 PPG, 10 Assist, 4.6 Boards, 1.7 Steals, 3.8 Turnovers

Biggest difference imo, one was drafted 1st overall.

Which player brought there team to playoffs and which player came to a team and suffered a huge losing streak?

Folks always want to talk about stats and ignore the wins/loses.

[DetroitPistons]

Alot bigger sample size from Wall, but last year with Detroit

RJ 17.6 PPG, 9.2 Assist, 4.7 Boards, 3.5 Turnovers

Wall 17.6 PPG, 10 Assist, 4.6 Boards, 1.7 Steals, 3.8 Turnovers

Biggest difference imo, one was drafted 1st overall.

Which player brought there team to playoffs and which player came to a team and suffered a huge losing streak?

Folks always want to talk about stats and ignore the wins/loses.

Yeah you're right, I can't believe Jackson couldn't pull us out of our 5-23 hole in the last couple of months of the season. What a scrub. It's also funny how people forget that WAS had a HUGE slump last year when they lost like 10 of their last 11 games at one point or something like that. Lastly, why are people pretending that the cap ISN'T going to explode over the next couple of years? Obviously Wall would be getting a bigger contract had he signed this year because of that fact. Stupid comments by Wall.

[princeofpalace]

WOW, this board....... The consensus on here, which has been wrong about Pistons playoff hopes for 6 straight years, has the audacity to disregard my opinion because "I'm bitter about Monroe" (which is utter BS, bcuz Greg wasnt coming back to this ****) yet constantly offers up these little gems such as "Baynes is better than Monroe", "Stan Johnson is the next Lebron", and now Reggie is as good as Wall.. LOL.

This board has devolved into a homer echo chamber. I thought things couldnt get any worse than they were last year when the consensus on this board swore Josh Smith was our best PF, but alas it has.

In Stan we Trust. Detroit v. Everybody

[joedumars1]

Alot bigger sample size from Wall, but last year with Detroit

RJ 17.6 PPG, 9.2 Assist, 4.7 Boards, 3.5 Turnovers

Wall 17.6 PPG, 10 Assist, 4.6 Boards, 1.7 Steals, 3.8 Turnovers

Biggest difference imo, one was drafted 1st overall.

Which player brought there team to playoffs and which player came to a team and suffered a huge losing streak?

Folks always want to talk about stats and ignore the wins/loses.

Yea, he had to get acclimated to a new team/system. What was Dragic Record? This year will be very telling on what is going on with our team, especially because SVG has it built in the mold he wants. Hopefully no serious injuries.

[detroitKG]

LAS VEGAS -- Two years ago, John Wall's max contract extension for five years and $80 million went under heavy scrutiny. Now, getting the two-time All-Star who has led the Wizards to the Eastern Conference semifinals twice since then, looks like a bargain.

"People talk about me getting $80 million, now you got people getting $85 million that haven't made the All-Star (Game) or anything like that," Wall said Tuesday while watching his summer league team compete vs. the Dallas Mavericks at Thomas & Mack Center. "I guess they came in at the right time. That new CBA kicked in and they're good now. Reggie Jackson gets five years, $80 million. I'm getting the same as Reggie Jackson."

http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/john-wall-im-getting-same-reggie-jackson

what a clown

A lot of people on here rationalize these deals as outsiders pointing to the market as the cause which is a legitimate reason. But, like I've mentioned in other threads, as professionals at their craft seeing somebody get paid equal to you that is not equal to you on the floor pisses these guys off. The idea that Reggie Jackson is making the same as a guy like Wall, and got more than Rondo, Monta Ellis, etc is truly disturbing to them. Kyle Lowry and Derozan are all-star caliber players yet Demarre Carroll comes to town making more than them. The media and air of political correctness in society keeps the players from going wild, but Wall has a very legitimate point and I agree with him 100%.

All the analytics, strategy, schemes, character judgments, and age aside the players know who can ball. The guys that are playmakers legitimately laugh at these 3&D guys and Reggie Jackson type players getting paid and then it gets offensive. RJ is gonna have a target on his back as "Mr. 80 Million Dollars" now, because he definitely hasn't earned 80 million in respect from the players. I think it's very likely he chokes and folds under that pressure too because he's not a baller like that. He's a SVG scheme stats player and he's kinda soft honestly. Jennings & Dinwiddie probably don't even respect Reggie as a human being or player, and are secretly going to enjoy every second of him crumbling with real ballers behind him and real expectations on him for the 1st time in his career. I feel you Brandon. I feel you Spencer. I feel you J-Wall. RJ is the scrub overpaid and overrated player you think he is. #ventover

What a sad sad warped view on everything...

[DetroitPistons]

WOW, this board....... The consensus on here, which has been wrong about Pistons playoff hopes for 6 straight years, has the audacity to disregard my opinion because "I'm bitter about Monroe" (which is utter BS, bcuz Greg wasnt coming back to this ****) yet constantly offers up these little gems such as "Baynes is better than Monroe", "Stan Johnson is the next Lebron", and now Reggie is as good as Wall.. LOL.

This board has devolved into a homer echo chamber. I thought things couldnt get any worse than they were last year when the consensus on this board swore Josh Smith was our best PF, but alas it has.

Who said RJ is as good as Wall?

[joedumars1]

WOW, this board....... The consensus on here, which has been wrong about Pistons playoff hopes for 6 straight years, has the audacity to disregard my opinion because "I'm bitter about Monroe" (which is utter BS, bcuz Greg wasnt coming back to this ****) yet constantly offers up these little gems such as "Baynes is better than Monroe", "Stan Johnson is the next Lebron", and now Reggie is as good as Wall.. LOL.

Is he not close to Wall according to the #'s?

Baynes is probably a better fit than Moose, cheaper too.

SJ was just a comparison to Lebron, mostly size, some of the handle and passing imo. He will have to keep improving and should he is 19. Lebron is way more athletic. I don't think you can teach athleticism

[princeofpalace]

WOW, this board....... The consensus on here, which has been wrong about Pistons playoff hopes for 6 straight years, has the audacity to disregard my opinion because "I'm bitter about Monroe" (which is utter BS, bcuz Greg wasnt coming back to this ****) yet constantly offers up these little gems such as "Baynes is better than Monroe", "Stan Johnson is the next Lebron", and now Reggie is as good as Wall.. LOL.

This board has devolved into a homer echo chamber. I thought things couldnt get any worse than they were last year when the consensus on this board swore Josh Smith was our best PF, but alas it has.

Who said RJ is as good as Wall?

So you really pretending that you didn't AND 1 a post that said the difference between Jackson and Wall was that one of those guys went #1 and the other didnt?

Oh...... ok.

[DetroitPistons]

WOW, this board....... The consensus on here, which has been wrong about Pistons playoff hopes for 6 straight years, has the audacity to disregard my opinion because "I'm bitter about Monroe" (which is utter BS, bcuz Greg wasnt coming back to this ****) yet constantly offers up these little gems such as "Baynes is better than Monroe", "Stan Johnson is the next Lebron", and now Reggie is as good as Wall.. LOL.

This board has devolved into a homer echo chamber. I thought things couldnt get any worse than they were last year when the consensus on this board swore Josh Smith was our best PF, but alas it has.

Who said RJ is as good as Wall?

So you really pretending that you didn't AND 1 a post that said the difference between Jackson and Wall was that one of those guys went #1 and the other didnt?

Oh...... ok.

Just because I gave an AND1 to a post doesn't mean I agree with every word in it. I was agreeing about the numbers which showed that when Jackson got acclimated to the offense he was able to put up very similar numbers to Wall. That's all. Numbers don't equal being better. Jackson still has much to prove before I can say he is on Wall's level. I think Jackson has the talent to be as good as Wall in the future though. I don't think that is too crazy to say based on his spectacular and consistent performance for most of his time as a Piston.

[Han Solo]

WOW, this board....... The consensus on here, which has been wrong about Pistons playoff hopes for 6 straight years, has the audacity to disregard my opinion because "I'm bitter about Monroe" (which is utter BS, bcuz Greg wasnt coming back to this ****) yet constantly offers up these little gems such as "Baynes is better than Monroe", "Stan Johnson is the next Lebron", and now Reggie is as good as Wall.. LOL.

This board has devolved into a homer echo chamber. I thought things couldnt get any worse than they were last year when the consensus on this board swore Josh Smith was our best PF, but alas it has.

In Stan we Trust. Detroit v. Everybody

[Han Solo]

WOW, this board....... The consensus on here, which has been wrong about Pistons playoff hopes for 6 straight years, has the audacity to disregard my opinion because "I'm bitter about Monroe" (which is utter BS, bcuz Greg wasnt coming back to this ****) yet constantly offers up these little gems such as "Baynes is better than Monroe", "Stan Johnson is the next Lebron", and now Reggie is as good as Wall.. LOL.

This board has devolved into a homer echo chamber. I thought things couldnt get any worse than they were last year when the consensus on this board swore Josh Smith was our best PF, but alas it has.

Who said RJ is as good as Wall?

So you really pretending that you didn't AND 1 a post that said the difference between Jackson and Wall was that one of those guys went #1 and the other didnt?

Oh...... ok.

[princeofpalace]

Oh yes Han Solo- you are contributing so much to this thread and the board in general. I'm done reading your posts, since its clear that, unlike DP, you cant make arguments about basketball

[Todd3]

Someone needs to explain the theory of inflation to Mr. Wall. And also remind him that he has won nothing in this league to be talking down to other players.

If im not mistaken it was Reggie who was better than Wall in Jacksons debut here too. Maybe he is still salty.

[zeebneeb]

WOW, this board....... The consensus on here, which has been wrong about Pistons playoff hopes for 6 straight years, has the audacity to disregard my opinion because "I'm bitter about Monroe" (which is utter BS, bcuz Greg wasnt coming back to this ****) yet constantly offers up these little gems such as "Baynes is better than Monroe", "Stan Johnson is the next Lebron", and now Reggie is as good as Wall.. LOL.

This board has devolved into a homer echo chamber. I thought things couldnt get any worse than they were last year when the consensus on this board swore Josh Smith was our best PF, but alas it has.

In Stan we Trust. Detroit v. Everybody

You are trying everything in your power to make everyone else look like idiots, for having some faith in SVG, and the team he has put together. Fine. With that said, try and actually argue from a reality point of view, not your twisted "everything sucks that stan has done, and I hate all of our players" point of view.

I don't think ANYONE has actually stated, Baynes is better then Monroe. I don't think ANYONE has actually stated Reggie is better then Wall. YOU said that, in trying to make everyone else look stupid, for having hope, which is the reason why you keep bringing up the tired "6 years blah blah blah".

WE ALL GET IT.

As for Stanley, did anyone actually state that Stanley is the next Lebron? I remember comparisons, because guess what? He actually is almost the same size as Lebron when he came into the league. That doesn't equal "Stan is the next Lebron".

Without question, if baynes does play next to Drummond, he is a better fit. Monroe is absolutely the better individual talent, and I don't think anyone said otherwise. FIT. Baynes is a better FIT.

Someone posted Reggie's numbers, as a Piston, in comparison to Walls. So even the use of a statistical comparison is grounds for homerism? That wasn't a small sample size provided either. It was his numbers for 27 games, which is a huge sample size, statistically speaking. Those numbers compare very favorably to Mr. Wall. It was only brought up, because of the comments made by WALL HIMSELF. You expected a player, just given the reigns to his own team, for the first time, to win every game? There is always a transition period.

Your whole argument is predicated on everyone else is dumb, and ignorant, I know better, this team sucks, has sucked (for 6 years. Yeah, we know)and Stan doesn't know what he's doing. Nevermind the fact that this team is really similar to his old teams, in terms of BUILD. It's a team built by stan, for Stan

Are people getting excited, perhaps even overly excited? Yeah. But with reason! The team is under new guidance, from a really good, and successful coach, something the Pistons haven't had in a really, really, long time.

We're some of us wrong about last year? (Raises hand as high as I can)yes. With that said, it was an inherited team, stan made the best of. That team is dead and buried, along with its whole attitude, outlook, and the majority of its players, something you have failed completely to notice.

This year, truly, for the first time since Dumars was fired, and stan came in, begins a whole new Era of Detroit Pistons basketball.

You have just failed to take notice of that.

[Kilo]

When does Reggie officially get signed so we can have the big presser and press availability - assuming we would of course. We're capped out now save the room MLE which we can use when over the cap.

[Train Wreck]

Someone needs to explain the theory of inflation to Mr. Wall. And also remind him that he has won nothing in this league to be talking down to other players.

If im not mistaken it was Reggie who was better than Wall in Jacksons debut here too. Maybe he is still salty.

I wonder what Steph Curry feels about how much John Wall gets paid?

[DetroitPistons]

When does Reggie officially get signed so we can have the big presser and press availability - assuming we would of course. We're capped out now save the room MLE which we can use when over the cap.

I doubt we will have a press conference for simply resigning a player. Maybe some public statements but not a conference imo.