Summer League Fun

tdjm · Post #601 » by **tdjm** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:39 pm

Sunsss wrote:I think Alec Brown will be waived as soon as Summer League ends. He barely played.

He can't be waived, he never signed. He's like a stone cold lock to play overseas for at least one year and join the team next year if he's good enough (or after). The Suns still have his rights, if he ever comes over to the NBA he has to sign with the Suns.

Plus, his pro position is clearly going to be PF (just like Kaminsky). He doesn't have the overwhelming size to play C, but if the Suns need a second string PF next year he could certainly be brought over

kennydorglas · Post #602 » by **kennydorglas** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:41 pm

I changed my mind about Jorts. He could be a decent player for us.

JMac1 · Post #603 » by **JMac1** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:41 pm

JMac1 wrote:
Sunlight wrote:This Vaughn went after Booker.

This post

What do you think now buddy?! Would you rather have a high volume ball stopper at the 2 Guard or a smooth shooting Booker who plays under control.

Btw: I don't buy into that Booker isn't an athlete garbage. The guy has hoops and bursts. It is like that was the report on him so everyone just repeats it no matter what they see from him.

I can see he is a good athlete and the combine results says the same thing, so I don't know what to say about him being not very athletic :roll:

JMac1 · Post #604 » by **JMac1** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:42 pm

kennydorglas wrote:I changed my mind with Jorts. He could be a decent player for us

Is that No 55, Harrellson? if so, I am in that boat too. :oops:

JMac1 · Post #605 » by **JMac1** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:46 pm

PF/C

Kief, Teletovic, Leuer, Chandler, Len, Harrelson......Every four can shoot....YUUUUP!

NTB · Post #606 » by **NTB** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:46 pm

JMac1 wrote:
kennydorglas wrote:I changed my mind with Jorts. He could be a decent player for us

Is that No 55, Harrellson? if so, I am in that boat too.

Jorts = James

kennydorglas · Post #607 » by **kennydorglas** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:46 pm

JMac1 wrote:
kennydorglas wrote:I changed my mind with Jorts. He could be a decent player for us

Is that No 55, Harrellson? if so, I am in that boat too.

Yeah... if Pero Antic was a rotational player in a 60-win team, Jorts can do it too.
Except that he can actually shoot it.

RunDogGun · Post #608 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:47 pm

Sunsss wrote:I think Alec Brown will be waived as soon as Summer League ends. He barely played.

Why, he isn't under contract, is he?

Sunsss · Post #609 » by **Sunsss** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:50 pm

tdjm wrote:
Sunsss wrote:I think Alec Brown will be waived as soon as Summer League ends. He barely played.

He can't be waived, he never signed. He's like a stone cold lock to play overseas for at least one year and join the team next year if he's good enough (or after). The Suns still have his rights, if he ever comes over to the NBA he has to sign with the Suns.

Plus, his pro position is clearly going to be PF (just like Kaminsky). He doesn't have the overwhelming size to play C, but if the Suns need a second string PF next year he could certainly be brought over

Can we not waive his rights or something to allow him to sign with another team?

RunDogGun wrote:
Sunsss wrote:I think Alec Brown will be waived as soon as Summer League ends. He barely played.

Why, he isn't under contract, is he?

He isn't.

oldjeezy · Post #610 » by **oldjeezy** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:50 pm

JMac1 wrote:
kennydorglas wrote:I changed my mind with Jorts. He could be a decent player for us

Is that No 55, Harrellson? if so, I am in that boat too.

he threw some really nice passes today. hitting the three too. jortslife

NTB · Post #611 » by **NTB** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:51 pm

Lol Jorts was Harrelson? I thought Jorts was James.

oldjeezy · Post #612 » by **oldjeezy** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:53 pm

NTB wrote:Lol Jorts was Harrelson? I thought Jorts was James.

kennydorglas · Post #613 » by **kennydorglas** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:54 pm

NTB wrote:Lol Jorts was Harrelson? I thought Jorts was James.

Yeah...
Josh Harrellson
@BigJorts55

Sunlight · Post #614 » by **Sunlight** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:54 pm

Warren has good passing ability, but still one tricky pony on offense.

JMac1: That was more jinx post from me.

tdjm · Post #615 » by **tdjm** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:54 pm

Sunsss wrote:Can we not waive his rights or something to allow him to sign with another team?

Er...you *can*, but I'm not sure why you'd do that. Every single NBA team has the rights to a couple of guys playing internationally, it costs you nothing to keep their rights. Literally, it costs you no cap space or money or anything. Very useful to keep around.

Sunsss · Post #616 » by **Sunsss** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:56 pm

tdjm wrote:
Sunsss wrote:Can we not waive his rights or something to allow him to sign with another team?

Er...you *can*, but I'm not sure why you'd do that. Every single NBA team has the rights to a couple of guys playing internationally, it costs you nothing to keep their rights. Literally, it costs you no cap space or money or anything. Very useful to keep around.

True, I just don't want him to keep his hopes high I guess.

RunDogGun · Post #617 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:57 pm

Sunsss wrote:
tdjm wrote:
Sunsss wrote:I think Alec Brown will be waived as soon as Summer League ends. He barely played.

He can't be waived, he never signed. He's like a stone cold lock to play overseas for at least one year and join the team next year if he's good enough (or after). The Suns still have his rights, if he ever comes over to the NBA he has to sign with the Suns.

Plus, his pro position is clearly going to be PF (just like Kaminsky). He doesn't have the overwhelming size to play C, but if the Suns need a second string PF next year he could certainly be brought over

Can we not waive his rights or something to allow him to sign with another team?

RunDogGun wrote:
Sunsss wrote:I think Alec Brown will be waived as soon as Summer League ends. He barely played.

Why, he isn't under contract, is he?

He isn't.

Why waive his rights? I'm just still wondering if he can play for the Jam, while PHX retains his draft rights.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #618 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:00 pm

tdjm wrote:
Sunsss wrote:Can we not waive his rights or something to allow him to sign with another team?

Er...you *can*, but I'm not sure why you'd do that. Every single NBA team has the rights to a couple of guys playing internationally, it costs you nothing to keep their rights. Literally, it costs you no cap space or money or anything. Very useful to keep around.

Whether the Suns keep his rights is actually up to Brown. Since he was a 2nd round pick the Suns are forced to either offer him a non-guaranteed contract or release his rights if he asks them to. But since I can't see him even sniffing another teams roster it's in his best interest to just not sign a contract and stay on the Suns radar since they have already invested some time in his development.

The rules in place so teams can't just take a guy then never give them a chance to play in the NBA.

aIvin adams · Post #619 » by **aIvin adams** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:01 pm

Sunlight wrote:Warren has good passing ability, but still one tricky pony on offense.

yah but that trick is scoring 2 poitns which is an awesome trick

tdjm · Post #620 » by **tdjm** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:11 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
tdjm wrote:
Sunsss wrote:Can we not waive his rights or something to allow him to sign with another team?

Er...you *can*, but I'm not sure why you'd do that. Every single NBA team has the rights to a couple of guys playing internationally, it costs you nothing to keep their rights. Literally, it costs you no cap space or money or anything. Very useful to keep around.

Whether the Suns keep his rights is actually up to Brown. Since he was a 2nd round pick the Suns are forced to either offer him a non-guaranteed contract or release his rights if he asks them to. But since I can't see him even sniffing another teams roster it's in his best interest to just not sign a contract and stay on the Suns radar since they have already invested some time in his development.

The rules in place so teams can't just take a guy then never give them a chance to play in the NBA.

Brown played in the D-League last year and before he got injured at the end of last summer league (separated shoulder) he was going to play in Spain. Since he played in another league...

"If the player is already under contract to, or signs a contract with a non-NBA team, the team retains the player's draft rights for one year after the player's obligation to the non-NBA team ends. Essentially, the clock stops as long as the player plays pro ball outside the NBA. Players are not included in team salary during the regular season while the player is under contract with a non-NBA team." (via cbafaq)

He's probably going to sign overseas , meaning the Suns will keep his rights. Look at Schortsanitis for example, his rights were held by the Clippers forever even though he never played with them (before they eventually traded the rights).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofoklis_Schortsanitis

Could Alec Brown force the issue and not play for another non-NBA team in an effort to void his rights? Yes, but the 50th overall pick is guaranteed nothing in the NBA, I'm sure he'll be more than happy to instead play overseas for a bit and make some $.

Of the Summer league guys, who would you most like to see make our team?