**The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread**
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The comp I keep coming to is Jack Sikma.
Sikma was a great young C back in the day and pretty much played like KAT. Good post passser, good little post game, good rebounder, had some range on that jumper and could protect the rim. He was good at everything and was a mismatch for opposing bigs because of his range, passing and ball handling.
Sikma was a great young C back in the day and pretty much played like KAT. Good post passser, good little post game, good rebounder, had some range on that jumper and could protect the rim. He was good at everything and was a mismatch for opposing bigs because of his range, passing and ball handling.
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Klomp wrote:Note30 wrote:Klomp wrote:I disagree.
I've never thought it would be a very big part of his game. His strength is around the elbows. Not that I think he can't make them, I just don't think it'll be a part of his game like that. He's not Kevin Love or Ryan Anderson.
Or Serge Ibaka?
Towns has a better interior game than any of them, meaning he won't have to rely on the 3-ball every game like they do.
For Towns, the three ball isn't something he needs to rely on. It's something he should be opportunistic about.
If he can make 'em, he can take 'em. Opportunities will be there and threes are better than twos (if you can make 'em).
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Klomp wrote:Note30 wrote:Woah better than KLove already?
I didn't say he's a better player. Try again.
He's probably referring to you stating Towns has a better interior game than Kevin Love already, which I completely disagree with. He hasn't played one NBA game yet.
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Both will be stars but I think Towns will emerge as the star of this team and Wiggins will be a strong #2 like Westbrook is to OKC's Durant.
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Twolf16 wrote:Klomp wrote:Note30 wrote:Woah better than KLove already?
I didn't say he's a better player. Try again.
He's probably referring to you stating Towns has a better interior game than Kevin Love already, which I completely disagree with. He hasn't played one NBA game yet.
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It's baffling how dense he can be at times. There's no way he didn't know what Note meant.
And no, Towns is not a better interior scorer than Love or Ibaka. Ridiculous.
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ZellJr wrote:Twolf16 wrote:Klomp wrote:I didn't say he's a better player. Try again.
He's probably referring to you stating Towns has a better interior game than Kevin Love already, which I completely disagree with. He hasn't played one NBA game yet.
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It's baffling how dense he can be at times. There's no way he didn't know what Note meant.
And no, Towns is not a better interior scorer than Love or Ibaka. Ridiculous.
Ibaka, isn't good at interior scoring at all, maybe bad enough that Towns could catch by th end of the season, maybe even earlier, but there's no way he has Loves footwork. His footwork was one of the only reasons I liked him as a wolf.
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Note30 wrote:ZellJr wrote:Twolf16 wrote:He's probably referring to you stating Towns has a better interior game than Kevin Love already, which I completely disagree with. He hasn't played one NBA game yet.
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It's baffling how dense he can be at times. There's no way he didn't know what Note meant.
And no, Towns is not a better interior scorer than Love or Ibaka. Ridiculous.
Ibaka, isn't good at interior scoring at all, maybe bad enough that Towns could catch by th end of the season, maybe even earlier, but there's no way he has Loves footwork. His footwork was one of the only reasons I liked him as a wolf.
I'll give you that. But at least Ibaka is pretty solid at finishing in traffic. His post offensive moves are limited to jumpers though. That's for sure.
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ZellJr wrote:Note30 wrote:ZellJr wrote:It's baffling how dense he can be at times. There's no way he didn't know what Note meant.
And no, Towns is not a better interior scorer than Love or Ibaka. Ridiculous.
Ibaka, isn't good at interior scoring at all, maybe bad enough that Towns could catch by th end of the season, maybe even earlier, but there's no way he has Loves footwork. His footwork was one of the only reasons I liked him as a wolf.
I'll give you that. But at least Ibaka is pretty solid at finishing in traffic. His post offensive moves are limited to jumpers though. That's for sure.
Ya being 6"11 255 and more jacked than the Mountain from GoT helps. And the fact that everyone clears the lane cause they have to guard both WB and Kd. Love Ibakas jumpshot and defense, hope he joins the Wolves one day
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Twolf16 wrote:He's probably referring to you stating Towns has a better interior game than Kevin Love already, which I completely disagree with. He hasn't played one NBA game yet.
Why does it matter if he hasn't played an NBA game?
Am I not allowed to say Jahlil Okafor has a better interior game than Ricky Rubio since Okafor hasn't played one NBA game yet?
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Klomp wrote:Twolf16 wrote:He's probably referring to you stating Towns has a better interior game than Kevin Love already, which I completely disagree with. He hasn't played one NBA game yet.
Why does it matter if he hasn't played an NBA game?
Am I not allowed to say Jahlil Okafor has a better interior game than Ricky Rubio since Okafor hasn't played one NBA game yet?
Bruh, I mean KLove is pretty good on the block, its part of the reason he is one of the best offensive powerforward today. Wouldn't you day so? I think just comparing Towns to Love is unfair especially on the block.
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Klomp wrote:Twolf16 wrote:He's probably referring to you stating Towns has a better interior game than Kevin Love already, which I completely disagree with. He hasn't played one NBA game yet.
Why does it matter if he hasn't played an NBA game?
Am I not allowed to say Jahlil Okafor has a better interior game than Ricky Rubio since Okafor hasn't played one NBA game yet?
In general you can. But at the same time, we have Darko Milicic, Derrick Williams, Wes Johnson, etc. to say otherwise.
You never REALLY know until the player actually plays. Towns hasn't scored well inside in the summer league, so it's okay that there are reservations there.
But his passing and flexible offense means we don't really need him to score a bunch inside offensively. This might limit his growth as an inside threat. Whereas with someone like Okafor who exclusively scores inside and will be relied on to score inside, he will live or die with how he performs in that regard. Towns won't. So I'd say there's a chance that he won't ever develop into the inside threat that Love is(though they do have a similar offensive skillset).
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Note30 wrote:I think just comparing Towns to Love is unfair especially on the block.
OK that's fair. Maybe I got a little overzealous. I still think when all is said and done though, that will be the case.
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I think Towns will post less once he gets into regular season. He has a small lower body so I have a hard time seeing him back down grown men.
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NikolaPekovic wrote:I think Towns will post less once he gets into regular season. He has a small lower body so I have a hard time seeing him back down grown men.
He may not get deep position every time, but he will continue to post up.
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Klomp wrote:NikolaPekovic wrote:I think Towns will post less once he gets into regular season. He has a small lower body so I have a hard time seeing him back down grown men.
He may not get deep position every time, but he will continue to post up.
He needs to learn to do a quick dropstep. In the past few summer league games, I could tell he only want to do a jump hook towards the basket even tho if he had done a dropstep he would have blown by his defender. Sheed who gets the relative comp for Towns was deadly when he actually utilized the dropstep.
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Note30 wrote:Klomp wrote:NikolaPekovic wrote:I think Towns will post less once he gets into regular season. He has a small lower body so I have a hard time seeing him back down grown men.
He may not get deep position every time, but he will continue to post up.
He needs to learn to do a quick dropstep. In the past few summer league games, I could tell he only want to do a jump hook towards the basket even tho if he had done a dropstep he would have blown by his defender. Sheed who gets the relative comp for Towns was deadly when he actually utilized the dropstep.
I've noticed this too. Okafor has made good use of it as well in summer league play.
It's often there for Towns. He should take it more often.
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ZellJr wrote:Note30 wrote:Klomp wrote:
He may not get deep position every time, but he will continue to post up.
He needs to learn to do a quick dropstep. In the past few summer league games, I could tell he only want to do a jump hook towards the basket even tho if he had done a dropstep he would have blown by his defender. Sheed who gets the relative comp for Towns was deadly when he actually utilized the dropstep.
I've noticed this too. Okafor has made good use of it as well in summer league play.
It's often there for Towns. He should take it more often.
He does need to practice his post up stance, when you watch towns, you'll notice he doesn't keep his pivot foot ahead of the defenders, so it's hard to turn quickly when you don't have something you can roll off of. He also has this bad tendency to push his elbows out when he goes up, he needs to work on these, it's why he doesn't look fluent when posting up, I'm sure considering he's Always been a face up or perimeter player its a little awkward and because he only recently started playing that way, (after high school) he seems less fluid, but if we do get a decent big man coach he'll look way more fluid in two three years
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Note30 wrote:ZellJr wrote:Note30 wrote:
He needs to learn to do a quick dropstep. In the past few summer league games, I could tell he only want to do a jump hook towards the basket even tho if he had done a dropstep he would have blown by his defender. Sheed who gets the relative comp for Towns was deadly when he actually utilized the dropstep.
I've noticed this too. Okafor has made good use of it as well in summer league play.
It's often there for Towns. He should take it more often.
He does need to practice his post up stance, when you watch towns, you'll notice he doesn't keep his pivot foot ahead of the defenders, so it's hard to turn quickly when you don't have something you can roll off of. He also has this bad tendency to push his elbows out when he goes up, he needs to work on these, it's why he doesn't look fluent when posting up, I'm sure considering he's Always been a face up or perimeter player its a little awkward and because he only recently started playing that way, (after high school) he seems less fluid, but if we do get a decent big man coach he'll look way more fluid in two three years
It's interesting to see if he makes the strides or if he finds ways to produce despite the flaws in the post. Anthony Davis has similar issues in the post but still manages to find ways to be a beast inside and from the elbow.
I would actually compare Towns's post game to Bynum's. Bynum doesn't shoot the jumper from the post, but his movement and attacking options are quite a bit like Towns's.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPhM1Y8EUdw[/youtube]
Nearly identical post games. That said, it would be quite a success for the Wolves if Towns produces in the pain with Bynum's effectiveness. Especially if he can add that effective dropstep that Bynum used on Shaq in the early second of the video.
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Going into last season, did anyone here think Andrew Wiggins would be strong enough to post up defenders? I don't remember that ever being considered. Just a month into the season, he was finding success against some of the better defenders in the league (Tony Allen) and guys 30-40 pounds heavier than him (Rudy Gay). One year later, it's one of the strongest aspects of his offensive game. I could see a similar progression from Towns.
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Once Towns gets a little stronger and develops a couple counter moves like a drop step and up-and-under, he'll be devastating in the post. I also look forward to plenty of Duncan-like bank shots on face-ups.
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