Explanation of stashing a player" out of the country"

buriat · Post #1 » by **buriat** » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:29 pm

Does the team suggest to a player where to play or does he just get the best deal he can and try to make the roster the next year? Is there an advantage to the team or the player to have him come to camp and then decide to send stash him? Does the concept of stashing on apply to a second rounder like Richardson or is it relevant to players like Ennis and TJ.

The players' agents want the best deal and management wants the most flexibility I assume. How would you approach the roster issue with the guys mentioned if you were the GM? What are these players' agents probably thinking at this point? How might the D league figure in with the players mentioned or anyone else that is a roster possibility?

Thanks for giving some these questions a shot. Historically I watch games and see who is drafted but I am finding the process of cap space and finalizing the roster quite interesting but am a real newbie in this area.

deb · Post #2 » by **deb** » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:50 pm

Stashing isn't an official thing. The NBA team holds the draftee's rights for a limited period of time, but that only pertains to the NBA. The draftee can pretty much sign a contract with any team he wants outside of the NBA. Management can probably suggest teams they had previous positive experience with, but they have no direct control over which team the draftee eventually picks. Ennis and TJ can't really be stashed overseas, because they were undrafted, so no NBA team holds their NBA rights. If cut, they can sign with any team they want, be it in the NBA or outside it.

Stashing young American prospects in Europe though imo is not really all that beneficial, because Euroleague teams tend not to trust unproven 19-20 year olds. Brandon Jennings for example played one year in Europe prior to playing in the NBA. His Euroleague stats (08/09): 7,6 ppg and 1,6 apg. His NBA rookie stats (09/10): 15,5 ppg and 5,7 apg

European "stashed" draftees stay stashed in Europe because:
a) normally they already played a couple of years as professional athletes in European leagues and are a proven commodity to European teams
b) non-lottery picks can generally get more money and playing time in Europe

Heat3 · Post #3 » by **Heat3** » Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:03 pm

Ennis was already stashed in Australia. Heat traded for him on draft night. He spent a year away then came back last year. Might be gone again this year...permanently :-?

SlowPaced · Post #4 » by **SlowPaced** » Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:18 pm

Heat3 wrote:Ennis was already stashed in Australia. Heat traded for him on draft night. He spent a year away then came back last year. Might be gone again this year...permanently

He should be. You can't look as raw and clueless as he does in the Summer League after two years of professional basketball with one year being in the NBA. Especially not if you're already 25.

Heat3 · Post #5 » by **Heat3** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:02 am

SlowPaced wrote:
Heat3 wrote:Ennis was already stashed in Australia. Heat traded for him on draft night. He spent a year away then came back last year. Might be gone again this year...permanently

He should be. You can't look as raw and clueless as he does in the Summer League after two years of professional basketball with one year being in the NBA. Especially not if you're already 25.

Player development in the Spo era. Spo's dog house is nearly undefeated and just like father time, it eventually catches up to even the good ones :lol:

Chalmers and Cole were at the top of the class. Cole has been reclaimed. Only Super Mario remains. Ennis don't have a chance. Napier was done before he even started. Beasley has 9 lives but keeps having false starts.

Winslow. You got next :evil:

HIF · Post #6 » by **HIF** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:03 am

pretty stupid post ^

Why would JRich want to go abroad and waste a year of his career when he's good enough to play in the NBA?

buriat · Post #7 » by **buriat** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:57 pm

Richardson doesn't have a contract . If the Heat knew for sure they were going to keep him, there is no reason he wouldn't be signed. There have been several second round and undrafted players already signed. Of course he signs if he gets a guaranteed contract but he appears to be among several guys mentioned in this thread that might or might not have a roster spot.