Mutumbo to the Hall of Fame

[tha_rock220]

Since they were teammates in college, who do you think had the better NBA career: Mutombo or Alonzo Mourning? (not taking into account championship rings). Dunno if either one is Top 10 centers of all time, probably top 15 though.

Deke is ABSOLUTELY top 10.
He's better than Mourning was, but Mourning wasn't the same after his injury (he was better regardless). Both of them still get underrated.


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in no particular order
1. Hakeem
2. Wilt
3. Kareem
4. Russell
5. Shaq
6. Robinson
7. M. Malone
8. Ewing
9. W. Reed (1 League MVP, 2 Finals MVP just like Dream)
10. Unseld

others: Thurmond, Mikan, Parish, McAdoo, Cowens, Lanier, Yao (Ok not really)

Deke and Zo were awesome, but not better than Ewing, Reed, Unseld, Robinson.

I know his best years were in the ABA, but I feel Artis Gilmore was better than a number of the names you've listed.

Dwight is better than Zo imo and both Robinson and Ewing are overrated. Dwight would dominate Unseld and Reed.

Marc has the opportunity to become an All Time great and I'd take him over any of those guys sans (maybe) Mutombo.


But to each their own, especially at the center position.

No way dude. David Robinson was a freak. Dwight would have the strength and quickness to hurt Ewing's limited offensive game, and he has height on Unseld, but Admiral was a physical specimen with lots of talent.

[moofs]

I didn't even bring up that I've always felt Russell was overrated.

"Product of his time!!!"
Yeah yeah yeah.
So their training programs weren't nearly as good, they didn't know as much about strategy at the time, yada yada.

They also didn't have 1/10 the competition that showed up once BIG money started to be involved
Sure, 25K was a lot in 1962 (equivalent to $218K in 2015 standards using government calculations. Probably a lot higher in reality), but it wasn't $33,000,000, and I'd bet that the non-stars made a WHOLE lot less. We're talking the BEST player in the league only made $218K. Most of them had to hold second jobs. In 1950-1970, the NBA was essentially the WNBA, in terms of revenues.

Lower income, lower demand, and most of the guys that Chamberlain and Russell played against were under 6'9", 215 lbs. (this is more damning against Chamberlain's 7'1" 300 than Russell, really. For all his stats, Chamberlain's style in highlights burns my eyes worse than a 4 hour splice of Dwight Howard post ups and freethrows)
(While looking up Russell's weight, I saw this: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/441840-bill-russell-an-overrated-nba-legend )

The reason he's always in "the greatest ever" conversations is STRICTLY 2 reasons.
1. In his time, he WAS the best
2. More importantly, as a league, you have to build your lore. No lore, no storylines, no drama, no business. If pure feats of athletic competition and pinnacle-reaching drew money, track and field would be another multi-billion dollar sport alongside wrestling.

[willywazza]

Well deserved. He is a tremendous human being!

[Nebula1]

Deke is ABSOLUTELY top 10.
He's better than Mourning was, but Mourning wasn't the same after his injury (he was better regardless). Both of them still get underrated.


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in no particular order
1. Hakeem
2. Wilt
3. Kareem
4. Russell
5. Shaq
6. Robinson
7. M. Malone
8. Ewing
9. W. Reed (1 League MVP, 2 Finals MVP just like Dream)
10. Unseld

others: Thurmond, Mikan, Parish, McAdoo, Cowens, Lanier, Yao (Ok not really)

Deke and Zo were awesome, but not better than Ewing, Reed, Unseld, Robinson.

I know his best years were in the ABA, but I feel Artis Gilmore was better than a number of the names you've listed.

Dwight is better than Zo imo and both Robinson and Ewing are overrated. Dwight would dominate Unseld and Reed.

Marc has the opportunity to become an All Time great and I'd take him over any of those guys sans (maybe) Mutombo.


But to each their own, especially at the center position.

No way dude. David Robinson was a freak. Dwight would have the strength and quickness to hurt Ewing's limited offensive game, and he has height on Unseld, but Admiral was a physical specimen with lots of talent.

Eh, Robinson was great but still overrated from being so likable. He wasn't as good defensively as Dwight but obviously better offensively. Dwight is the better rebounder and also a physical specimen himself.

[tha_rock220]

I don't think you're giving DRob enough credit for his defense. Dwight is the best center in the NBA, and he's a great player, but I think if prime Robinson was in the league he'd probably be the second best player behind LeBron.

As Rockets, I think fans we're dismissive of both Admiral and Ewing due to what our favorite player(I'm assuming Hakeem is yours as well) did to the two of them in the playoffs.

[Mr. E]

As Rockets, I think fans we're dismissive of both Admiral and Ewing due to what our favorite player(I'm assuming Hakeem is yours as well) did to the two of them in the playoffs.

I used to be dismissive until I heard Hakeem discuss just how great he thought that those guys were. That was a time of giants in the NBA!

[Nebula1]

As Rockets, I think fans we're dismissive of both Admiral and Ewing due to what our favorite player(I'm assuming Hakeem is yours as well) did to the two of them in the playoffs.

I used to be dismissive until I heard Hakeem discuss just how great he thought that those guys were. That was a time of giants in the NBA!

I'm not dismissing their greatness.. they were. I just think Dwight is that good, especially in his Orlando prime.

Robinson and Ewing were both adequate defenders with nice jumpers. Eh.

But yeah, I've never liked the Spurs. Always respect them, but never liked them.