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OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2

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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1221 » by Knicks_Blood10 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:53 pm

who else is excited for RAW tonight??
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Post#1222 » by GameTime_3 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:29 pm

Knicks_Blood10 wrote:who else is excited for RAW tonight??


Would love to see Kane return as a demon along side Taker for one last run for both of them. Kane as Head of Operations is dumb and needs to end.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1223 » by delvec19 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:46 pm

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Knicks_Blood10 wrote:who else is excited for RAW tonight??


Would love to see Kane return as a demon along side Taker for one last run for both of them. Kane as Head of Operations is dumb and needs to end.


This. I feel like the only reason Taker came back last night was to go on "One last run" before he ultimately hangs it up at WM32. He hasn't wrestled at any PPV besides WM since 2010.
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Post#1224 » by BeagleBoss » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:37 am

Titus Oneal should be a main eventer. Kid has all the talent.
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Post#1225 » by BeagleBoss » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:21 am

So it's gonna be Cena vs Rollins at Summer Slam smfh :angry:
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1226 » by Im Coming Home » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:25 am

Cena literally just put his U.S. Title over the Main Title. AND he's back in the main event against Rollins at SS.

Great....
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1227 » by Moose » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:34 am

Im Coming Home wrote:Cena literally just put his U.S. Title over the Main Title. AND he's back in the main event against Rollins at SS.

Great....


Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

...If Rollins win clean, it could make up for it.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1228 » by delvec19 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:23 pm

Im Coming Home wrote:Cena literally just put his U.S. Title over the Main Title. AND he's back in the main event against Rollins at SS.

Great....



Just when I was starting to not mind Cena as much....now what? He's gonna have 2 freaking titles? Can't stand McMahon and this constant favoritism. He better either lose the US title to someone deserving (DONT YOU DARE VACATE IT) or lose cleanly to Rollins at SS.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1229 » by Im Coming Home » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:47 pm

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Im Coming Home wrote:Cena literally just put his U.S. Title over the Main Title. AND he's back in the main event against Rollins at SS.

Great....



Just when I was starting to not mind Cena as much....now what? He's gonna have 2 freaking titles? Can't stand McMahon and this constant favoritism. He better either lose the US title to someone deserving (DONT YOU DARE VACATE IT) or lose cleanly to Rollins at SS.

Reportedly the reason Cena won the Owens feud is because after Owens beat Cena the first time Cena's merch sales went down. :banghead:

And now thats why he's being put into the main event again. :roll:
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1230 » by delvec19 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:12 pm

Im Coming Home wrote:
delvec19 wrote:
Im Coming Home wrote:Cena literally just put his U.S. Title over the Main Title. AND he's back in the main event against Rollins at SS.

Great....



Just when I was starting to not mind Cena as much....now what? He's gonna have 2 freaking titles? Can't stand McMahon and this constant favoritism. He better either lose the US title to someone deserving (DONT YOU DARE VACATE IT) or lose cleanly to Rollins at SS.

Reportedly the reason Cena won the Owens feud is because after Owens beat Cena the first time Cena's merch sales went down. :banghead:

And now thats why he's being put into the main event again. :roll:
Spoiler:
He'll drop the title to Cesaro before Summer Slam apparently too.


Cesaro is not a bad consolation because I love the guy and he deserves it. But if that rumor is true, then I just give up on having any hope that this company can be an amazing product. They have so much talent and no clue what to do with it or how to properly cultivate it.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1231 » by Moose » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:55 pm

delvec19 wrote:
Im Coming Home wrote:
delvec19 wrote:

Just when I was starting to not mind Cena as much....now what? He's gonna have 2 freaking titles? Can't stand McMahon and this constant favoritism. He better either lose the US title to someone deserving (DONT YOU DARE VACATE IT) or lose cleanly to Rollins at SS.

Reportedly the reason Cena won the Owens feud is because after Owens beat Cena the first time Cena's merch sales went down. :banghead:

And now thats why he's being put into the main event again. :roll:
Spoiler:
He'll drop the title to Cesaro before Summer Slam apparently too.


Cesaro is not a bad consolation because I love the guy and he deserves it. But if that rumor is true, then I just give up on having any hope that this company can be an amazing product. They have so much talent and no clue what to do with it or how to properly cultivate it.


Cesaro and Rollins are the two best wrestlers in the company. Let them both beat Cena clean and give them some credibility. Rollins really needs it.

Let Cesaro feud with guys like Owens, orton, rusev, etc.

Let the IC belt be up for grabs between guys like amrbose, roman, wyatt, zigs, etc.

After Rollins beats Cena at summerslam, let him defend the belt against Orton? Have Sheamus cash in, let Rollins win clean.

As this goes on, you can set up the Rollins and Authority breakup and have Rollins drop the belt at some point before Wrestlemania. If you don't allow Rollins to get a couple of big, clean victories before then, however, then you are gonna destroy his career for a while. Let him get cred, separate from the authority, and turn a new page.

Maybe have Owens win the royal rumble. Maybe let Rollins drop the belt in a rematch vs Cena or Orton (triple threat?) at the rumble or just before that, and then let Cena/Orton drop the belt to Owens or something like that.

Owens has brought out the best in Cena, but it doesn't mean people want to Cena to carry the belt or be the main story.

On a side note, WWE has to do something silly for taker vs Brock. I think a casket match makes a lot of sense.

Let taker win that and do the brock will ''never be the same'' outcome because the truth is, if you are going to continue with the brock cannot be beat stuff, it leads to crappy finishes or something that isn't believable. At least you can go into your bag of silliness and say ever since Brock lost that casket match, a piece of him was lost.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1232 » by wolfv » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:39 pm

Cena's merch sales falling should force WWE to create new stars; not have Cena go over new stars. If you're gonna have Owens pretty much lose the feud, than you should have booked him really strong for like a year first to get him completely over as a force. Instead, he comes in, starts feuding with Cena right away and ends up losing. It just kills off the momentum Owens had.

WWE needs more **** stars. Cena is so protected as he's STILL the top guy and everyone knows it. We know he's not going to lose, so what's the point of watching? If more guys were on Cena's level there would be less "Super Cena", and he wouldn't be perceived as looking weak losing against other stars.

Cena has been having much better matches during his US reign though. I know he's been paired with some real talents, but he has held his own for the most part
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1233 » by kingquan316 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:06 pm

Kevin Owens should have really beaten Cena for the US title if their feud is now over. Made no sense in Cena winning that feud.

So Cena might win his 16th world title, man I can't wait for that :roll:
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1234 » by Meat » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:56 pm

so much for flair, cenas gonna retire with 40
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1235 » by Thorn » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:50 pm

Meat wrote:so much for flair, cenas gonna retire with 40


The idea of Flair being beaten historically by Cena disgusts me, I would rather look at the total duration of their title reigns however Flair will always be a NWA/WCW guy to Vince and as such even if he has Flair involved now he certainly would rather put his guys above one of the guys like Flair, Sting, or any of the greats from federations not called the WWE.

For the record I have enjoyed Cena's matches during the US title runs and I think that says a lot, because I have not liked the guy at all. I like his angle, approach, and he is working hard. He has embraced this and he is selling it.

Sting coming back to fight with Taker' against Bray & company seems like a thing we can expect.

At first I thought Bray would reform his "Wyatt Family"stable, but with the Erick Rowan injury out there I am not sure... because initially it seemed like Roman, Taker, and Sting vs The Wyatt Family would have been a good way to try to get Roman over as they desperately try to rehab his image after fans rejected him for how Vince and company were treating Daniel Bryan.

Who would they bring in, Mike Rotunda's other son Bo Dallas?
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1236 » by Meat » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:07 pm

Thorn wrote:
Meat wrote:so much for flair, cenas gonna retire with 40


The idea of Flair being beaten historically by Cena disgusts me, I would rather look at the total duration of their title reigns however Flair will always be a NWA/WCW guy to Vince and as such even if he has Flair involved now he certainly would rather put his guys above one of the guys like Flair, Sting, or any of the greats from federations not called the WWE.

For the record I have enjoyed Cena's matches during the US title runs and I think that says a lot, because I have not liked the guy at all. I like his angle, approach, and he is working hard. He has embraced this and he is selling it.

Sting coming back to fight with Taker' against Bray & company seems like a thing we can expect.

At first I thought Bray would reform his "Wyatt Family"stable, but with the Erick Rowan injury out there I am not sure... because initially it seemed like Roman, Taker, and Sting vs The Wyatt Family would have been a good way to try to get Roman over as they desperately try to rehab his image after fans rejected him for how Vince and company were treating Daniel Bryan.

Who would they bring in, Mike Rotunda's other son Bo Dallas?

repackage some failed gimmicks?
adam rose->leo kruger
neville?
stardust?
jack swagger?
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1237 » by Heat3 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:21 pm

Who is Rollins supposed to fight if not Cena?
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1238 » by Meat » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:49 pm

Heat3 wrote:Who is Rollins supposed to fight if not Cena?

elevate cesaro
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1239 » by DowNY » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:54 pm

Meat wrote:
Thorn wrote:
Meat wrote:so much for flair, cenas gonna retire with 40


The idea of Flair being beaten historically by Cena disgusts me, I would rather look at the total duration of their title reigns however Flair will always be a NWA/WCW guy to Vince and as such even if he has Flair involved now he certainly would rather put his guys above one of the guys like Flair, Sting, or any of the greats from federations not called the WWE.

For the record I have enjoyed Cena's matches during the US title runs and I think that says a lot, because I have not liked the guy at all. I like his angle, approach, and he is working hard. He has embraced this and he is selling it.

Sting coming back to fight with Taker' against Bray & company seems like a thing we can expect.

At first I thought Bray would reform his "Wyatt Family"stable, but with the Erick Rowan injury out there I am not sure... because initially it seemed like Roman, Taker, and Sting vs The Wyatt Family would have been a good way to try to get Roman over as they desperately try to rehab his image after fans rejected him for how Vince and company were treating Daniel Bryan.

Who would they bring in, Mike Rotunda's other son Bo Dallas?

repackage some failed gimmicks?
adam rose->leo kruger
neville?
stardust?
jack swagger?

They definitely shouldn't put Bo in the Wyatts. That would be a joke at this time period & a waste of a real brother reveal that can wait.

Only one that makes is Jack Swagger. Not a good speaker (hence why he was paired with Zeb Colter to begin with during his last repackaging) but is still physically imposing enough to make things interesting by joining the Wyatts. Could be his last chance before he ends up in complete jobber land.
Stardust is interesting because Dusty helped majorly with the Bray Wyatt character & his main roster debut push. Don't think this should happen though. Wyatts aren't the shield, they don't need a high flyer like Neville or technican like Cody. Just throw another big body in there. Once Rowan is healthy, he'll be back with them as well.

Another person who fits is Baron Corbin from NXT. Still type raw but could be the protege of the group as he has all the physical tools to be successful. Not a good talker, so being with Bray would be smart for his career. After a while (many months or year & change) you can then start having Corbin come into his own & start to question Bray's motives thus leading to Baron wanting to become the new leader of the Wyatts.

I'm ok with Bray, Harper & Swagger/Corbin/Rowan vs. Sting's Shield but I wouldn't doubt them just having Bray & Harper take Dean out thus leading to Sting saving Roman on a Raw & replacing Dean at Summerslam which would suck for Dean to miss another PPV, especially Summerslam but you never know what WWE creative can be thinking at times.

Hopefully this slowly leads to a new Ministry type faction.
Bray Wyatt as the leader
Luke Harper
Erick Rowan
Jack Swagger or Baron Corbin (NXT)
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Paige?
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1240 » by DowNY » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:59 pm

Meat wrote:
Heat3 wrote:Who is Rollins supposed to fight if not Cena?

elevate cesaro

Lol WWE wouldn't do that.
I can see Cena dropping the US title to Cesaro before Summerslam, leading to Cesaro vs. KO or Rusev at Summerslam.

Cena vs. Rollins is going to happen. The good news is I expect Seth to keep the title in this scenario.

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