OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2

[Trav_NYK]

I mean just in regards to that he wouldn't do anything remotely close to that to jeopardize his career. He's like Derek freaking Jeter. Never ever involved in any type of scandal.

Yeah, it's weird how squeaky clean he is. Almost too clean.

Apparently, he is a very nice guy. Does a lot of charitable work.

The only controversy he has had was when he cheated on his ex wife with Mickey James. WWE had him settle the divorce very low key in court.

[wolfv]

The Cena character on WWE tv sucks ass. I'm sure he is a prick backstage too. All the top guys (except for the rock and daniel bryan, Undertaker, at least according to what I've read/heard) have been pricks. Cena has always come across very intelligently/well spoken/etc in interviews outside of the WWE though. He knows what and what not to say.

Sad way for the hulkster to go

[Meat]

Yeah, it's weird how squeaky clean he is. Almost too clean.

Apparently, he is a very nice guy. Does a lot of charitable work.

I don't doubt that. It's rare that someone is 100% clean though. It's obvious he's on the juice, if that matters

haha juice? hell i'm on the juice and? america is the few developed country in the world where juice is illegal to use. juice is statically safer than flintstone vitamins and aspirin

[DowNY]

The Cena character on WWE tv sucks ass. I'm sure he is a prick backstage too. All the top guys (except for the rock and daniel bryan, Undertaker, at least according to what I've read/heard) have been pricks. Cena has always come across very intelligently/well spoken/etc in interviews outside of the WWE though. He knows what and what not to say.

Sad way for the hulkster to go

Lol how you say "sad way for hulkster to go" right after saying all top guys have been pricks? Hogan is the biggest of them all. F*ck that overrated bum.

[ciregno]

Totally random but I was so happy as a child to see the Ultimate Warrior beating Hogan at Wrestlemania VI.

[wolfv]

The Cena character on WWE tv sucks ass. I'm sure he is a prick backstage too. All the top guys (except for the rock and daniel bryan, Undertaker, at least according to what I've read/heard) have been pricks. Cena has always come across very intelligently/well spoken/etc in interviews outside of the WWE though. He knows what and what not to say.

Sad way for the hulkster to go

Lol how you say "sad way for hulkster to go" right after saying all top guys have been pricks? Hogan is the biggest of them all. F*ck that overrated bum.

Hollywood Hogan was one of the best heels. I grew up watching these guys. Even though most of them are a**holes I still love them. HBK (along with Bret Hart) is my fav, and he was a total s*** head

[DowNY]

The Cena character on WWE tv sucks ass. I'm sure he is a prick backstage too. All the top guys (except for the rock and daniel bryan, Undertaker, at least according to what I've read/heard) have been pricks. Cena has always come across very intelligently/well spoken/etc in interviews outside of the WWE though. He knows what and what not to say.

Sad way for the hulkster to go

Lol how you say "sad way for hulkster to go" right after saying all top guys have been pricks? Hogan is the biggest of them all. F*ck that overrated bum.

Hollywood Hogan was one of the best heels. I grew up watching these guys. Even though most of them are a**holes I still love them. HBK (along with Bret Hart) is my fav, and he was a total s*** head

Yeah, HBK in my top 3 along with Austin & Rock.

[Bill Pidto]

Apparently, he is a very nice guy. Does a lot of charitable work.

I don't doubt that. It's rare that someone is 100% clean though. It's obvious he's on the juice, if that matters

haha juice? hell i'm on the juice and? america is the few developed country in the world where juice is illegal to use. juice is statically safer than flintstone vitamins and aspirin

So meat is short for meat head?

[Bill Pidto]

Totally random but I was so happy as a child to see the Ultimate Warrior beating Hogan at Wrestlemania VI.

Also a bigot lol

[Carl_Karlson]

Apparently, he is a very nice guy. Does a lot of charitable work.

I don't doubt that. It's rare that someone is 100% clean though. It's obvious he's on the juice, if that matters

haha juice? hell i'm on the juice and? america is the few developed country in the world where juice is illegal to use. juice is statically safer than flintstone vitamins and aspirin

How's the juicing experience? I considered it when I was younger but didn't end up trying it

[Bill Pidto]

The Cena hate is really ridiculous. He is not my favorite wrestler but he definitely has my respect. Whether you like it or not he is the star of the PG Era programming and that is not changing until he is physically unable to be the same performer. Like Derick Jeter, Cena is the ultimate company man who does whatever is asked of him without causing issues internally. He could have easily complained about being pushed out of the WWE title picture this last year but instead he elevated the US Title into a must see segment every Monday.

Now as far as feuding with Rollins, I have no problem with it at all. I like Rollins as a performer. He brings a lot to the table but this Authority storyline has gotten so stale that it is becoming unbearable to watch. He is by far the weakest champion the WWE has had since the Miz. Having Cena drop the US title to a Cesaro, Russev or Owens now after building a legitimate US title division would be smart. Cena can help build up the WWE Title the same way in a few short months given the opportunity. Having the Title defended every monday in an open challenge raises the stakes and lets the top guys shine instead of having the same boring 20 min segments to start the show.

I agree with with all of this, except for the fact that he can't truly put anyone over. Yes Owens got 1 win over him but it wasn't for the title. And for him to lose the title, it almost always has to be done through cheating.

Would it have KILLED him to lose to Owens last Sunday? No. Not at all. It would have totally elevated someone to a main event level. You'd think with Cena nearing 40, they'd try to create a new mega star...but nope. Same old ****. The tap out is what really killed it for me.

I agree about him tapping out Owens. Owens had so much steam. If he beats Cena clean for the title... would have been epic. But maybe they have bigger plans for Cena's eventual loss. But again, I agree with the sentiment that Cena is too untouchable, and after more than 10 years of this sht, I'm absolutely looking forward to the day he calls it quits, or turns heel in epic fashion ala Hogan. Cena works his ass off and is a great performer on a lot of levels.. but in terms of pure wrestling... he's terrible. He takes bumps like a giant pussy and his offense is so far from believable looking.. every match he has, there's at least one really cringe-worthy moment where I smh and wonder why Bret Hart gives this guy so much props as a worker (probably just trying to stay on WWE's good side). Which brings me to my next topic..

The fact that you agreed with Polk on his piss poor assessment of Rollins makes we want to put both of you on ignore. The weakest champ since the Miz? Put yourself on ignore. This guy is the best in-ring performer in the last 10 years at least. Cena wishes he could wrestle like Rollins who also continues to impress me on the mic. Regardless of what you feel about the actual storyline, Rollins gives everything he has to his character. He has played his role perfectly and I love watching him every week. If he wasn't around, there's a good chance I don't watch wrestling anymore.

[Moose]

The Cena hate is really ridiculous. He is not my favorite wrestler but he definitely has my respect. Whether you like it or not he is the star of the PG Era programming and that is not changing until he is physically unable to be the same performer. Like Derick Jeter, Cena is the ultimate company man who does whatever is asked of him without causing issues internally. He could have easily complained about being pushed out of the WWE title picture this last year but instead he elevated the US Title into a must see segment every Monday.

Now as far as feuding with Rollins, I have no problem with it at all. I like Rollins as a performer. He brings a lot to the table but this Authority storyline has gotten so stale that it is becoming unbearable to watch. He is by far the weakest champion the WWE has had since the Miz. Having Cena drop the US title to a Cesaro, Russev or Owens now after building a legitimate US title division would be smart. Cena can help build up the WWE Title the same way in a few short months given the opportunity. Having the Title defended every monday in an open challenge raises the stakes and lets the top guys shine instead of having the same boring 20 min segments to start the show.

I agree with with all of this, except for the fact that he can't truly put anyone over. Yes Owens got 1 win over him but it wasn't for the title. And for him to lose the title, it almost always has to be done through cheating.

Would it have KILLED him to lose to Owens last Sunday? No. Not at all. It would have totally elevated someone to a main event level. You'd think with Cena nearing 40, they'd try to create a new mega star...but nope. Same old ****. The tap out is what really killed it for me.

I agree about him tapping out Owens. Owens had so much steam. If he beats Cena clean for the title... would have been epic. But maybe they have bigger plans for Cena's eventual loss. But again, I agree with the sentiment that Cena is too untouchable, and after more than 10 years of this sht, I'm absolutely looking forward to the day he calls it quits, or turns heel in epic fashion ala Hogan. Cena works his ass off and is a great performer on a lot of levels.. but in terms of pure wrestling... he's terrible. He takes bumps like a giant pussy and his offense is so far from believable looking.. every match he has, there's at least one really cringe-worthy moment where I smh and wonder why Bret Hart gives this guy so much props as a worker (probably just trying to stay on WWE's good side). Which brings me to my next topic..

The fact that you agreed with Polk on his piss poor assessment of Rollins makes we want to put both of you on ignore. The weakest champ since the Miz? Put yourself on ignore. This guy is the best in-ring performer in the last 10 years at least. Cena wishes he could wrestle like Rollins who also continues to impress me on the mic. Regardless of what you feel about the actual storyline, Rollins gives everything he has to his character. He has played his role perfectly and I love watching him every week. If he wasn't around, there's a good chance I don't watch wrestling anymore.

There's a good chance they ruin Rollins' career at summer slam...

He needs a clean win over Cena in the worst way. End it with the phoenix splash or whatever it is called. Maybe have Cena try for the super AA and Rollins counters.

After that, let him defeat Orton or whoever is next clean as well. He really needs to string together some clean and big wins before he drops the belt.

I do agree about his wrestling skills...he and Cesaro are the best wrestlers in the company.

On another note: Cena has improved due to Owens pushing him there. In saying that, no one wants to see him on top. And perhaps Bret was only referring to the fact that Cena can go every night. Crazy motor.

Cena deserves credit for what he does well and if he wasn't shoved down people's throats, he would be appreciated a little more...even if his wrestling skill isn't all that great (although Amrbose has the worst swarm of punches I can think of, what is that nonsense?)

And bring back the curb stomp please.

[delvec19]

The Cena hate is really ridiculous. He is not my favorite wrestler but he definitely has my respect. Whether you like it or not he is the star of the PG Era programming and that is not changing until he is physically unable to be the same performer. Like Derick Jeter, Cena is the ultimate company man who does whatever is asked of him without causing issues internally. He could have easily complained about being pushed out of the WWE title picture this last year but instead he elevated the US Title into a must see segment every Monday.

Now as far as feuding with Rollins, I have no problem with it at all. I like Rollins as a performer. He brings a lot to the table but this Authority storyline has gotten so stale that it is becoming unbearable to watch. He is by far the weakest champion the WWE has had since the Miz. Having Cena drop the US title to a Cesaro, Russev or Owens now after building a legitimate US title division would be smart. Cena can help build up the WWE Title the same way in a few short months given the opportunity. Having the Title defended every monday in an open challenge raises the stakes and lets the top guys shine instead of having the same boring 20 min segments to start the show.

I agree with with all of this, except for the fact that he can't truly put anyone over. Yes Owens got 1 win over him but it wasn't for the title. And for him to lose the title, it almost always has to be done through cheating.

Would it have KILLED him to lose to Owens last Sunday? No. Not at all. It would have totally elevated someone to a main event level. You'd think with Cena nearing 40, they'd try to create a new mega star...but nope. Same old ****. The tap out is what really killed it for me.

I agree about him tapping out Owens. Owens had so much steam. If he beats Cena clean for the title... would have been epic. But maybe they have bigger plans for Cena's eventual loss. But again, I agree with the sentiment that Cena is too untouchable, and after more than 10 years of this sht, I'm absolutely looking forward to the day he calls it quits, or turns heel in epic fashion ala Hogan. Cena works his ass off and is a great performer on a lot of levels.. but in terms of pure wrestling... he's terrible. He takes bumps like a giant pussy and his offense is so far from believable looking.. every match he has, there's at least one really cringe-worthy moment where I smh and wonder why Bret Hart gives this guy so much props as a worker (probably just trying to stay on WWE's good side). Which brings me to my next topic..

The fact that you agreed with Polk on his piss poor assessment of Rollins makes we want to put both of you on ignore. The weakest champ since the Miz? Put yourself on ignore. This guy is the best in-ring performer in the last 10 years at least. Cena wishes he could wrestle like Rollins who also continues to impress me on the mic. Regardless of what you feel about the actual storyline, Rollins gives everything he has to his character. He has played his role perfectly and I love watching him every week. If he wasn't around, there's a good chance I don't watch wrestling anymore.

I love Rollins and his work ethic and even his charisma on the mic. I just can't stand his booking. He's booked to look very weak and one of the most cowardly heel champions in recent memory. He needs a straight up clean win over a megastar like Cena or Orton to solidify his status as a face of this company.

[DowNY]

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[DowNY]

I agree with with all of this, except for the fact that he can't truly put anyone over. Yes Owens got 1 win over him but it wasn't for the title. And for him to lose the title, it almost always has to be done through cheating.

Would it have KILLED him to lose to Owens last Sunday? No. Not at all. It would have totally elevated someone to a main event level. You'd think with Cena nearing 40, they'd try to create a new mega star...but nope. Same old ****. The tap out is what really killed it for me.

I agree about him tapping out Owens. Owens had so much steam. If he beats Cena clean for the title... would have been epic. But maybe they have bigger plans for Cena's eventual loss. But again, I agree with the sentiment that Cena is too untouchable, and after more than 10 years of this sht, I'm absolutely looking forward to the day he calls it quits, or turns heel in epic fashion ala Hogan. Cena works his ass off and is a great performer on a lot of levels.. but in terms of pure wrestling... he's terrible. He takes bumps like a giant pussy and his offense is so far from believable looking.. every match he has, there's at least one really cringe-worthy moment where I smh and wonder why Bret Hart gives this guy so much props as a worker (probably just trying to stay on WWE's good side). Which brings me to my next topic..

The fact that you agreed with Polk on his piss poor assessment of Rollins makes we want to put both of you on ignore. The weakest champ since the Miz? Put yourself on ignore. This guy is the best in-ring performer in the last 10 years at least. Cena wishes he could wrestle like Rollins who also continues to impress me on the mic. Regardless of what you feel about the actual storyline, Rollins gives everything he has to his character. He has played his role perfectly and I love watching him every week. If he wasn't around, there's a good chance I don't watch wrestling anymore.

I love Rollins and his work ethic and even his charisma on the mic. I just can't stand his booking. He's booked to look very weak and one of the most cowardly heel champions in recent memory. He needs a straight up clean win over a megastar like Cena or Orton to solidify his status as a face of this company.

Seth got a clean win last night over Cesaro.

Heels are suppose to piss you off & they're suppose to win by cheating. We already know Seth can go in the ring.

[wolfv]

Rollins needs the curb stomp back. It was such a unique move that truly suited his character, and a move he could pull off on anyone. Taking that away and giving him the pedigree, plus his awful booking, has killed him

[Meat]

I don't doubt that. It's rare that someone is 100% clean though. It's obvious he's on the juice, if that matters

haha juice? hell i'm on the juice and? america is the few developed country in the world where juice is illegal to use. juice is statically safer than flintstone vitamins and aspirin

How's the juicing experience? I considered it when I was younger but didn't end up trying it

you dont need juice when you're young, you need it when you're old and your testosterone production slows down. TRT doctors are just fda approved juice administrators

[Polk377]

The Cena hate is really ridiculous. He is not my favorite wrestler but he definitely has my respect. Whether you like it or not he is the star of the PG Era programming and that is not changing until he is physically unable to be the same performer. Like Derick Jeter, Cena is the ultimate company man who does whatever is asked of him without causing issues internally. He could have easily complained about being pushed out of the WWE title picture this last year but instead he elevated the US Title into a must see segment every Monday.

Now as far as feuding with Rollins, I have no problem with it at all. I like Rollins as a performer. He brings a lot to the table but this Authority storyline has gotten so stale that it is becoming unbearable to watch. He is by far the weakest champion the WWE has had since the Miz. Having Cena drop the US title to a Cesaro, Russev or Owens now after building a legitimate US title division would be smart. Cena can help build up the WWE Title the same way in a few short months given the opportunity. Having the Title defended every monday in an open challenge raises the stakes and lets the top guys shine instead of having the same boring 20 min segments to start the show.

I agree with with all of this, except for the fact that he can't truly put anyone over. Yes Owens got 1 win over him but it wasn't for the title. And for him to lose the title, it almost always has to be done through cheating.

Would it have KILLED him to lose to Owens last Sunday? No. Not at all. It would have totally elevated someone to a main event level. You'd think with Cena nearing 40, they'd try to create a new mega star...but nope. Same old ****. The tap out is what really killed it for me.

I agree about him tapping out Owens. Owens had so much steam. If he beats Cena clean for the title... would have been epic. But maybe they have bigger plans for Cena's eventual loss. But again, I agree with the sentiment that Cena is too untouchable, and after more than 10 years of this sht, I'm absolutely looking forward to the day he calls it quits, or turns heel in epic fashion ala Hogan. Cena works his ass off and is a great performer on a lot of levels.. but in terms of pure wrestling... he's terrible. He takes bumps like a giant pussy and his offense is so far from believable looking.. every match he has, there's at least one really cringe-worthy moment where I smh and wonder why Bret Hart gives this guy so much props as a worker (probably just trying to stay on WWE's good side). Which brings me to my next topic..

The fact that you agreed with Polk on his piss poor assessment of Rollins makes we want to put both of you on ignore. The weakest champ since the Miz? Put yourself on ignore. This guy is the best in-ring performer in the last 10 years at least. Cena wishes he could wrestle like Rollins who also continues to impress me on the mic. Regardless of what you feel about the actual storyline, Rollins gives everything he has to his character. He has played his role perfectly and I love watching him every week. If he wasn't around, there's a good chance I don't watch wrestling anymore.

I actually like Rollins a lot as a wrestler and performer. I am just sick to death of the Authority storyline. Me referring to him being a weak champion has nothing to do with his skills or mic ability. It has to do with how cowardly he looks every week hiding behind the Authority. Even last week when Lesner and Taker were going at it and he shows up after the segment talking smack. That IS a Miz like move. There is no edge to Rollins like a comparable Orton so he comes off looking weak every time out. Hell he got killed by Lesner and would have been the most lopsided title defense in history had it not been for the Undertaker making the entire storyline leading up to it forgettable.

[DowNY]

Rollins needs the curb stomp back. It was such a unique move that truly suited his character, and a move he could pull off on anyone. Taking that away and giving him the pedigree, plus his awful booking, has killed him

The curb stomp did fit him & it was unique but it's too late now. I do think he'll end up having it again. I would do it during a Seth vs. Triple H feud whenever that happens (after the Roman - Seth double turn). I think Triple H would put Seth over but not by losing to his own finisher. Think it'll take a Curb stomp to end it & from then on it should be back.

I guess it made sense to give him the Pedigree but if there's a finisher I would have gave Seth, it would have been the GTS. Not only to piss CM Punk off but it looks like it fits Seth (though I'm sure Hideo would be pissed at this point). We'll see what happens.

[BeagleBoss]

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