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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#821 » by tonman » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:25 pm

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Liver_Pooty wrote:
He's not going to start unless Walker gets injured.


it really doesn't matter how Kemba's health is... even when healhty, he still shoots below 40% from the field, he is a poor defender and an average assist guy. the Hornets will never amount to something until they move past Kemba being their best player... luckily, Jordan got Kaminsky to fall on his lap, that was luck, as if the universe was desperately try to help MJ the GM, at last.

Jesus, do you even follow our team? Ever even watched a game??

Kemba is an excellent, hard working defender. Sure, he's not blessed with supreme size but he fights his arse off through screens and will pressure the ball handler with great focus. His transition D, especially one on one when he is on his heels moving backwards, might be some of the best in the league. His ability to either strip the ball or take the charge is amazing.

Don't know if there are basic stats or advance stats or analytics to support that, but I also couldn't give a toss. My feel-o-meter tells me that Kemba is farrrrrrrrrrrrrr from being a poor defender.

I like Lin a lot but this nut hugging is going to taint my opinion of him just as much as the Kemba apologists do Kemba.

Just let them play for goodness sake before you start anointing one or the other.


correct, just let them play. but your "nut hugging" comment is uncalled for. if you're going to state a blatant opinion of how you feel then you should not have any issues with someone voicing their own opinion whether you disagree with it or not.

on the topic, I agree with your assessment with Kemba defensively. he's not that small but he's going to have trouble with bigger PGs. conversely, Lin is a little bigger but struggles defending the lightning quick guards. but Kemba's shooting percentage is a concern because it continues to impact spacing. getting shooters may help but if I were to scheme to defend Kemba, I'd just dare him to shoot over and limit his penetration and reduce the passing lane. there needs to be movement (probably why PNR and Lin was brought here) and outside shooting. perhaps a new scheme will help Kemba offensively instead of the so-called Alfense.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#822 » by Chapelchilla » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:52 pm

They are both average to good but not great PG's who have very different skill sets that may just work out complementing each other nicely.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#823 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:43 pm

Braggins wrote:This board is going to get crazy if our offense is largely the same as the last two seasons and Lin sees a similar drop in efficiency/production that other guards coming into this system have. I imagine it will be chaos but then at least there will be an entire army of Lin fans posting on here who hate Clifford as much as I do, so at least that will be nice.

~lol~ Especially knowing what has been promised on the phone!
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#824 » by Braggins » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:47 pm

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Braggins wrote:This board is going to get crazy if our offense is largely the same as the last two seasons and Lin sees a similar drop in efficiency/production that other guards coming into this system have. I imagine it will be chaos but then at least there will be an entire army of Lin fans posting on here who hate Clifford as much as I do, so at least that will be nice.

~lol~ Especially knowing what has been promised on the phone!

Yeah, I had a good chuckle when I read about that.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#825 » by Braggins » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:51 pm

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BigSlam wrote:
jeroka wrote:
it really doesn't matter how Kemba's health is... even when healhty, he still shoots below 40% from the field, he is a poor defender and an average assist guy. the Hornets will never amount to something until they move past Kemba being their best player... luckily, Jordan got Kaminsky to fall on his lap, that was luck, as if the universe was desperately try to help MJ the GM, at last.

Jesus, do you even follow our team? Ever even watched a game??

Kemba is an excellent, hard working defender. Sure, he's not blessed with supreme size but he fights his arse off through screens and will pressure the ball handler with great focus. His transition D, especially one on one when he is on his heels moving backwards, might be some of the best in the league. His ability to either strip the ball or take the charge is amazing.

Don't know if there are basic stats or advance stats or analytics to support that, but I also couldn't give a toss. My feel-o-meter tells me that Kemba is farrrrrrrrrrrrrr from being a poor defender.

I like Lin a lot but this nut hugging is going to taint my opinion of him just as much as the Kemba apologists do Kemba.

Just let them play for goodness sake before you start anointing one or the other.


correct, just let them play. but your "nut hugging" comment is uncalled for.

BigSlam gets accused of being a Kemba hater as much as anyone on this board. Hes certainly not a nut hugger. You might be projecting just a tad.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#826 » by catch20two » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:58 pm

Braggins wrote:
tonman wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Jesus, do you even follow our team? Ever even watched a game??

Kemba is an excellent, hard working defender. Sure, he's not blessed with supreme size but he fights his arse off through screens and will pressure the ball handler with great focus. His transition D, especially one on one when he is on his heels moving backwards, might be some of the best in the league. His ability to either strip the ball or take the charge is amazing.

Don't know if there are basic stats or advance stats or analytics to support that, but I also couldn't give a toss. My feel-o-meter tells me that Kemba is farrrrrrrrrrrrrr from being a poor defender.

I like Lin a lot but this nut hugging is going to taint my opinion of him just as much as the Kemba apologists do Kemba.

Just let them play for goodness sake before you start anointing one or the other.


correct, just let them play. but your "nut hugging" comment is uncalled for.

BigSlam gets accused of being a Kemba hater as much as anyone on this board. Hes certainly not a nut hugger. You might be projecting just a tad.

Slam called Jeroka a Lin nut hugger. Lol at nut hugger.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#827 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:22 pm

:lol:

Serious riot!
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#828 » by jeroka » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:44 am

BigSlam wrote:
jeroka wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
He's not going to start unless Walker gets injured.


it really doesn't matter how Kemba's health is... even when healhty, he still shoots below 40% from the field, he is a poor defender and an average assist guy. the Hornets will never amount to something until they move past Kemba being their best player... luckily, Jordan got Kaminsky to fall on his lap, that was luck, as if the universe was desperately try to help MJ the GM, at last.

Jesus, do you even follow our team? Ever even watched a game??

Kemba is an excellent, hard working defender. Sure, he's not blessed with supreme size but he fights his arse off through screens and will pressure the ball handler with great focus. His transition D, especially one on one when he is on his heels moving backwards, might be some of the best in the league. His ability to either strip the ball or take the charge is amazing.

Don't know if there are basic stats or advance stats or analytics to support that, but I also couldn't give a toss. My feel-o-meter tells me that Kemba is farrrrrrrrrrrrrr from being a poor defender.

I like Lin a lot but this nut hugging is going to taint my opinion of him just as much as the Kemba apologists do Kemba.

Just let them play for goodness sake before you start anointing one or the other.


lol... first off I am not even a Lin fan, I think he's a good PG but I'm not a fan-fan, if you know what I mean... secondly, a "nut-hugging" comment from a mod, real classy there sir, that's pretty commendable right there. lmao

now, back to Kemba... as I have said, Kemba Walker is a poor defender. You say he is a hard working defender... does that mean you regard him as a "good defender"? It doesn't really matter to me because 1) your "feel-o-meter" has ZERO value to me, and 2) he's a terrible defender and his fans may get hurt but that's just the truth.... it's like the Emperor's new clothes,you know. I am sorry to lay it down so bluntly. didn't mean to hurt you.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#829 » by LofJ » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:53 am

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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#830 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:57 am

This is getting ridiculous. Walker is the starter, Lin is the backup. To hell with another PG debate. Lin will get his minutes,
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Post#831 » by mrknowitall215 » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:12 am

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Post#832 » by Lorenzomax7 » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:06 pm

Warning for the Mods:

There is a crazy Chinese Lakers fan registered over 250 accounts in the last couple of months to troll Lin fans, Rockets fans, Lakers fans, LeBron fans, Celtics fans and many other fans on a Chinese basketball forum called Hupu. I was told he firstly gave Lin fans a warm welcome last summer - nobody knows if it's honest though. As the season going, he claimed that he had been disrespected by some Lin fans. Then he turned his back to all the Lin fans and became a Lin (fans) hater. So he eventually decided to register many accounts to troll both sides(Lin fans and Lin haters/doubters) and many others. BTW, his English is very well, he might be among us.

Warning post by the Mods from Hupu:

http://bbs.hupu.com/13203977.html (Controversial NBA topics forum @ Hupu)
http://bbs.hupu.com/13232538.html (Hornets fans forum @ Hupu)
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#833 » by Braggins » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:54 pm

Lol wow...
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#834 » by hurrican » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:09 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Image


To be fair they both had pretty good games that night.
Lin with 21/7 and Kemba with 17/4 on a really efficient 7/11 shooting.

O also hello I've been lurking on the board for years but thought I would finally make an account.
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Post#835 » by BlackOutBuzz » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:14 pm

hurrican wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:Image


To be fair they both had pretty good games that night.
Lin with 21/7 and Kemba with 17/4 on a really efficient 7/11 shooting.

O also hello I've been lurking on the board for years but thought I would finally make an account.


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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#836 » by HornetJail » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:44 pm

Lorenzomax7 wrote:Warning for the Mods:

There is a crazy Chinese Lakers fan registered over 250 accounts in the last couple of months to troll Lin fans, Rockets fans, Lakers fans, LeBron fans, Celtics fans and many other fans on a Chinese basketball forum called Hupu. I was told he firstly gave Lin fans a warm welcome last summer - nobody knows if it's honest though. As the season going, he claimed that he had been disrespected by some Lin fans. Then he turned his back to all the Lin fans and became a Lin (fans) hater. So he eventually decided to register many accounts to troll both sides(Lin fans and Lin haters/doubters) and many others. BTW, his English is very well, he might be among us.

Warning post by the Mods from Hupu:

http://bbs.hupu.com/13203977.html (Controversial NBA topics forum @ Hupu)
http://bbs.hupu.com/13232538.html (Hornets fans forum @ Hupu)

lol so there are crazy Lin fans and crazy Lin haters now :lol:
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Post#837 » by steady » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:55 am

renmei wrote:I don't think it has been posted here, but a few days ago Lin's dad gave an interview to a Taiwanese newspaper about why Lin chose the Hornets. Here is a rough translation:

http://m.appledaily.com.tw/appledaily/article/sports/20150722/36678949

Papa Lin shared Jeremy Lin's soul-searching process to join the Hornets today. He revealed, "The key to Jeremy Lin's decision to join the Hornets was how his heart had been touched by the team's head coach, Steve Clifford, who also emphasized that Jeremy would be given his deserved minutes and the control of the ball on the court."

Papa Lin also said, "There were approximately 8-9 teams, including the Pacers, Raptors, Spurs, Mavericks and Grizzlies, that had contacted Jeremy Lin in this year's free agency. The Grizzlies had even offered a 3-year contract intending to "tie him up". But considering that the salary cap for each team would rise by a large margin in 2016-17, Jeremy Lin's agent hoped that, instead of getting tied up by the Grizzlies, he would re-enter the free agent market next summer to look for a more lucrative contract."




Argh. As someone who supports Lin - that he had a nice conversation with Clifford - is not how I want to hear he made his decision.

I am liking the idea of possibilities at Charlotte , and the quieter market, and have always loved MKG. And in general I like the group of players Hornets have assembled. But if anything Clifford's basketball philosophy is my main question mark about Lin's choosing Charlotte.
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Post#838 » by steady » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:26 am

Just watched some Kemba highlights and dude has amazing handles and speed and energy out there.

Lin was always very good at getting Beverley's shot in rhythm - wonder if he could do the same for Kemba.

Hope Hornets play them together some
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#839 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:41 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:lol so there are crazy Lin fans and crazy Lin haters now :lol:

There has always been crazy Lin haters. Many many.
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Post#840 » by 6_Rings » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:06 pm

I think the situation was kept under control in the lakers and rockets realgm board past seasons due to responsible modding here. CF was entirely a differrent scenario since the mod himself is a blatant hater.

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