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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#101 » by reanimator » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:57 pm

Simmons is not shifty.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#102 » by Marcus » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:09 pm

reanimator wrote:Simmons is not shifty.


yeah no real shake there. More burst than shift and ridiculous str8 line speed.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#103 » by ItsThatEasy » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:08 pm

I think Odom is the fairest comparison at the moment. Athletic and skilled enough to play perimeter ball but he's physical as hell from growing up around the Australian rugby culture. Excited to see how his season goes.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#104 » by TripleA1 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:25 pm

Lamar Odom seems to be the perfect comparison versatile defensively, good ball handling, fast and quick for size, average jump shot.
But I think he will be better because of his work ethic that Odom did not have.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#105 » by BigSlam » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:23 pm

ItsThatEasy wrote:I think Odom is the fairest comparison at the moment. Athletic and skilled enough to play perimeter ball but he's physical as hell from growing up around the Australian rugby culture. Excited to see how his season goes.

Australian Rules Football, not Rugby.

He was born in Melbourne then moved back there where he grew up.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#106 » by millslapper » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:12 pm

i am absolutely impressed with his personel maturity. i would pick him mainly because of that. he is so different from all that really good ballin' kids in his age which are thinking of basketball only.

he should have a duncanesque influence on his teammates.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#107 » by ItsThatEasy » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:15 pm

BigSlam wrote:
ItsThatEasy wrote:I think Odom is the fairest comparison at the moment. Athletic and skilled enough to play perimeter ball but he's physical as hell from growing up around the Australian rugby culture. Excited to see how his season goes.

Australian Rules Football, not Rugby.

He was born in Melbourne then moved back there where he grew up.


Thanks for the correction, I just know I've heard him speak several times in interviews about how Australian culture made him tougher and embrace the physical side of the game.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#108 » by BigSlam » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:59 pm

ItsThatEasy wrote:
BigSlam wrote:
ItsThatEasy wrote:I think Odom is the fairest comparison at the moment. Athletic and skilled enough to play perimeter ball but he's physical as hell from growing up around the Australian rugby culture. Excited to see how his season goes.

Australian Rules Football, not Rugby.

He was born in Melbourne then moved back there where he grew up.


Thanks for the correction, I just know I've heard him speak several times in interviews about how Australian culture made him tougher and embrace the physical side of the game.

He played Rugby as well, but stopped when he was about 13 I think.

Either way, Aussie Rules players are more physical than those Rugby pansies.

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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#109 » by swyftdahoe » Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:31 pm

Ben Simmons is a PF in as much as Paul George is a PF now. Big enough and physical enough to play it given where the game's going.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#110 » by need4detroit » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:30 pm

swyftdahoe wrote:Ben Simmons is a PF in as much as Paul George is a PF now. Big enough and physical enough to play it given where the game's going.

Paul George is more of a 2/3 than 3/4. He doesn't really have the frame to guard 4s.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#111 » by crazy_me_87 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:55 pm

TripleA1 wrote:Lamar Odom seems to be the perfect comparison versatile defensively, good ball handling, fast and quick for size, average jump shot.
But I think he will be better because of his work ethic that Odom did not have.


He is a better athlete than Odom. Simmons athletism is really getting underrated here. if he repeats his 41' vert at the NBA combine its clear that he is an elite athlete.

Overall in terms of Game Style i Kinda like the Odom Comparison. Yet we dont really know what the Ceiling of a Hard Working Odom would have been. I mean in his best years he averaged 16/8/5. What would that mean for Simmons?

Is actual Odom his Floor? I dont know.

a more athletic hard working Odom is something hard to imagine because Lamar was immensly talented himself.

I still also like my Grant Hill comparison. The smoothness. the amazing BBiQ. The Point Forward"ism"

I could see Simmons as a regular 21/7/6 guy like hill was before his injury. He likley wont be a Lebron/Durant 27-32ppg type scorer. But his All Around Potential is greater than anyonei have seen in years.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#112 » by NikolaPekovic » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:11 am

Theres a Skal Labissiere every draft, but we don't see a guy with Ben's skillset very often.

Point Forwards are growing much more popular with how much PGs are inclined to score these days,
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#113 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:49 pm

NikolaPekovic wrote:Theres a Skal Labissiere every draft, but we don't see a guy with Ben's skillset very often.

Point Forwards are growing much more popular with how much PGs are inclined to score these days,


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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#114 » by No-Man » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:56 pm

Ehhh Draymond Green is much morre of a point forward, and more similar overall to Ben, than Iggy.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#115 » by youOK » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:23 pm

Fischella wrote:My educated guess by the way is that Ingram, who is almost 2 years younger than Jaylen and Ben, and year younger than Skal, ends up leapfrogging all of them and goes 1st


Where are you getting their ages? Draftexpress has Ingram at 17.9 years, Jaylen at 18.7, Ben at 19.0 and Skal at 19.3.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#116 » by Masterfully » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:38 pm

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Fischella wrote:My educated guess by the way is that Ingram, who is almost 2 years younger than Jaylen and Ben, and year younger than Skal, ends up leapfrogging all of them and goes 1st


Where are you getting their ages? Draftexpress has Ingram at 17.9 years, Jaylen at 18.7, Ben at 19.0 and Skal at 19.3.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/


My educated guess, is that Ingram doesn't look so good at Cal and either comes back for his sophomore year or slides to the late lotto.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#117 » by Marcus » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:44 pm

Masterfully wrote:
amk233 wrote:
Fischella wrote:My educated guess by the way is that Ingram, who is almost 2 years younger than Jaylen and Ben, and year younger than Skal, ends up leapfrogging all of them and goes 1st


Where are you getting their ages? Draftexpress has Ingram at 17.9 years, Jaylen at 18.7, Ben at 19.0 and Skal at 19.3.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/


My educated guess, is that Ingram doesn't look so good at Cal and either comes back for his sophomore year or slides to the late lotto.


I'll second that. NO WAY Ingram looks good at Cal this year.




Especially since he'll be at Duke. Gonna be extra hard to pull that off.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#118 » by Masterfully » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:47 pm

LOL, that's right! Yeah I meant Ingram at Duke. Was also thinking about Jaylen while typing.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#119 » by youOK » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:48 pm

Marcus wrote:
Masterfully wrote:
amk233 wrote:
Where are you getting their ages? Draftexpress has Ingram at 17.9 years, Jaylen at 18.7, Ben at 19.0 and Skal at 19.3.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/


My educated guess, is that Ingram doesn't look so good at Cal and either comes back for his sophomore year or slides to the late lotto.


I'll second that. NO WAY Ingram looks good at Cal this year.




Especially since he'll be at Duke. Gonna be extra hard to pull that off.


He has a Durant esque frame though. If he shows flashes I think he goes and gets picked mid lottery just based on potential.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#120 » by Marcus » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:49 pm

Masterfully wrote:LOL, that's right! Yeah I meant Ingram at Duke. Was also thinking about Jaylen while typing.


lol. yeah that's what i figured. still thinking Ingram comes back for a second year or Jaylen comes back for a second year?
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