Celtics offered Hornets 4 first rounders for Winslow...If offered to us would you take it

TMIMITW · Post #1 » by **TMIMITW** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:50 pm

The Celtics offered the 16th pick, No. 15 (acquired in a prearranged contingency deal with the Atlanta Hawks), one unprotected future Brooklyn pick, and a future first-rounder from either the Memphis Grizzlies or Minnesota Timberwolves.

If they offered it to us would you had wanted Pat to take it?????

G.cracker · Post #2 » by **G.cracker** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:55 pm

They did and we didn't. I'd rather have Winslow. Riley would have just traded those picks to ditch salary.

TMIMITW · Post #3 » by **TMIMITW** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:02 pm

But the 2 future picks probably would have been top 10 (Nets and Wolves)

Jaxon · Post #4 » by **Jaxon** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:17 pm

No. Winslow has potential to develop into a star and there's a reason Ainge wanted him so bad. You don't pass on that for players outside the lottery and some future picks that are in middle school or high school right now that will be mid to late draft selections.

TMIMITW wrote:But the 2 future picks probably would have been top 10 (Nets and Wolves)

The Wolves have one of the best young rosters in the league now and the Nets made some decent moves in the offseason. It depends on what year the picks being offered were set to trigger. If they were picks for any later than 2017 they definitely will not be top 10 because by then Wiggins, Towns, and LaVine will all be all-stars and maybe even Tyus Jones will be a good player. Maybe the Nets will be a top 10 but I think they will be one of those teams that will be stuck in a cycle of mediocrity. Good enough to be in the lottery or at the very end of it but not good enough to actually make noise in the conference.

insfo · Post #5 » by **insfo** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:23 pm

Oubre + Vaughn/Rozier/Dekker/Portis + 2 future possible lottery picks including an unprotected Brooklyn pick? hmm .. does sound tempting. I'm assuming BOS would have taken back Rio & Bird in the trade, which would have made either Grant or Wright an option at 16 as well.

TMIMITW · Post #6 » by **TMIMITW** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:28 pm

insfo wrote:Oubre + Vaughn/Rozier/Dekker/Portis + 2 future possible lottery picks including an unprotected Brooklyn pick? hmm .. does sound tempting. I'm assuming BOS would have taken back Rio & Bird in the trade, which would have made either Grant or Wright an option at 16 as well.

I was definitely thinking Portis and Dekker, Maybe JaysonTatum next year from Duke (Lol I am really close with his family). and who knows after

dolphinatik · Post #7 » by **dolphinatik** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:41 pm

I'd take the Brooklyn and wolves picks plus the other 2 and draft turner obre or whoever else we scouted.

Temuhjan · Post #8 » by **Temuhjan** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:43 pm

4 against 1 ehh?!! I say, bring it!

Post #9 » by **QUIZ** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:49 pm

No, Winslow is better than those future assets. Keep sleeping on him though it makes it more fun.

HIF · Post #10 » by **HIF** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:02 pm

shanedude · Post #11 » by **shanedude** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:31 pm

ZoStrong · Post #12 » by **ZoStrong** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:31 pm

Quite enticing...

Would you trade those four picks for Wade's career? Hell NO!

But there's no guarantee Winslow will have as successful career.
I doubt Winslow will have a Wade-like career (top 3 all time at his position), but at the same time
Wade was never as good at 19 as Winslow. He was a bit of late-bloomer.

Ultimately I think Riley's win-right-now mode turned down that deal.
His career only has a few years left. If Riley was younger... idk.

What made Jordan to turn down that deal? (not for Winslow, but Frank the Tank)
Now that's a million dollar question!

HIF · Post #13 » by **HIF** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:49 pm

We'd have used those four picks to ditch Rio and Bird.

shanedude · Post #14 » by **shanedude** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:06 pm

HIF wrote:We'd have used those four picks to ditch Rio and Bird.

I honestly believe we might have. Thank god the rule about trading picks in consecutive years exists, or we'd have absolutely 0 until 2025. Picks are trash to Riley for better or worse( its worse).

Bishop45 · Post #15 » by **Bishop45** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:58 pm

Nope, specifically cause of Winslow + the direction this team is trying to take. Now maybe if we were the Hornets... but, nope.

heater4life · Post #16 » by **heater4life** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:17 pm

Nope! Suck it ainge!!!!!!

Sign5 · Post #17 » by **Sign5** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:08 pm

ZoStrong wrote:Quite enticing...

Would you trade those four picks for Wade's career? Hell NO!

But there's no guarantee Winslow will have as successful career.
I doubt Winslow will have a Wade-like career (top 3 all time at his position), but at the same time
Wade was never as good at 19 as Winslow. He was a bit of late-bloomer.

Ultimately I think Riley's win-right-now mode turned down that deal.
His career only has a few years left. If Riley was younger... idk.

What made Jordan to turn down that deal? (not for Winslow, but Frank the Tank)
Now that's a million dollar question!

Imagine trading Wade for Kirk Hinrich, Mike Sweetney, Marcus Banks, Collision. even if Wade had the half career he has that trade still wouldn't be worth it.

MrTwister · Post #18 » by **MrTwister** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:39 pm

qjz123 wrote:No, Winslow is better than those future assets. Keep sleeping on him though it makes it more fun.

i dont think anyone sleeps on Winslow, if anything he is getting a little overrated with all talk about him dropping to Heat like Miami just got better and younger version of Wade.Those picks C's offered are mostly mid-late 1st rounders which dont have a lot of value except for Brooklyn unprotected pick, but even them are trying to make playoffs.

Post #19 » by **QUIZ** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:19 pm

MrTwister wrote:
qjz123 wrote:No, Winslow is better than those future assets. Keep sleeping on him though it makes it more fun.

i dont think anyone sleeps on Winslow, if anything he is getting a little overrated with all talk about him dropping to Heat like Miami just got better and younger version of Wade.Those picks C's offered are mostly mid-late 1st rounders which dont have a lot of value except for Brooklyn unprotected pick, but even them are trying to make playoffs.

A lot of people 'around here' are sleeping on him. It's ok though the unrealistic expectations that they had aren't Winslows fault.

000 · Post #20 » by **000** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:23 am

"A lot of people 'around here' are sleeping on him. It's ok though the unrealistic expectations that they had aren't Winslows fault."

qjz123, The great expectations were started by Coach K comparing him to Dwayne Wade and By Pat Riley stating that Winslow has the "It"factor. Those expectations were NOT started by fans. It be nice to see Winslow live up to Coach K's and Pat Riley's expectations.