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Post#61 » by karkinos » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:40 pm

analytics can help in so many ways
it can help you identify role players to fill specific needs and help with a more efficient hiring process
for games within a small margin (2-3 possessions), understanding specific tendencies and maximizing matchups is the difference between wins and losses.

even if you don't win a ring every year, analytics is important to be successful. maximizing advantage is what keeps teams like the spurs ahead of the pack year after year.

we probably do rank the worst in analytics, but maybe we do have the data, but we just don't know how to execute it on the court.
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Post#62 » by jeroka » Sat Aug 1, 2015 7:38 am

cancer wrote:analytics can help in so many ways
it can help you identify role players to fill specific needs and help with a more efficient hiring process
for games within a small margin (2-3 possessions), understanding specific tendencies and maximizing matchups is the difference between wins and losses.

even if you don't win a ring every year, analytics is important to be successful. maximizing advantage is what keeps teams like the spurs ahead of the pack year after year.

we probably do rank the worst in analytics, but maybe we do have the data, but we just don't know how to execute it on the court.


I agree. that's why Byron's resistance to its use is so mind-boggling. anyway, I still think Byron can be a good coach for the Lakers, he'd just have to make use of very good scouting from countless of scouts, the way it was done old school
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Re: Top to bottom profile on the team's use of Analytics 

Post#63 » by ArC_man » Fri Aug 7, 2015 4:47 pm

B.Scott on analytics:
"Clay [Moser] can bridge the gap between the analytical guys and the coaching guys. There are analytical guys who don’t have a clue about the game of basketball so one of the reasons we hired Clay was to bridge the gap. We are going to use analytics a lot more because the language is a lot better as far as him being able to relate it to us and to them as far as what we want to see.

We’ve already sat down a few times and talked about the analytical part can help our players. It’s just given us a whole lot more information.
I was never against it in the first place, it’s just that I’m old school and some of those things you take with a grain of salt and some of them you don’t. But now that I’ve got [an analytics] guy who’s a basketball guy who understands the analytical parts … it makes the language between me and him a lot easier to convert into what I need to do on the basketball court."

The rest of the interview can be heard here (~15 minutes), he also talks about Russell/Randle:
http://thebeast980.com/2015/08/04/byron-scott-says-analytics-will-have-a-bigger-role-in-upcoming-lakers-season/
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Post#64 » by dockingsched » Fri Aug 7, 2015 7:32 pm

So annoying how he always uses the "I'm old school" line as if it's a valid excuse for not keeping up with the latest trends and available information.
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Post#65 » by Slava » Fri Aug 7, 2015 7:44 pm

Like I tell any drunk friends I babysit, "a step at a time".
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Post#66 » by john248 » Sat Aug 8, 2015 5:34 am

dockingsched wrote:So annoying how he always uses the "I'm old school" line as if it's a valid excuse for not keeping up with the latest trends and available information.


Yea, I mean...it's really no excuse for what he said last pre-season about the 3 point shot. As a head coach, he has input on what information should be given and what to reject, so while a hire like Clay Moser sounds good, the ball could've been rolling as soon as last season. The great head coaches in the league have a major say when it comes to information given, whether through traditional scouting methods, statistical research, or whatever. Thus considering a head coach should have a good mind for basketball, he also serves as an additional filter.

I see the "I'm old school" types as those who are too stubborn to keep up with trends and thus will never be trend setters. There's also probably either laziness factor in it or just being overwhelmed with the information, or both. Who wouldn't want available information as an additional tool to win...or at least that should be one of the line of thoughts.
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