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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV 

Post#681 » by E-Balla » Wed Aug 5, 2015 1:50 pm

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JBreezeNY wrote:What happened is a combination of things.

Meek got Drake for the Rico feature, paid him x amount of money for the feature, cool.

Drake sends his verse over, Meek sees a line that Drake said "The girl of your dreams to me is probably not a challenge", whereas Meek in his verse says "Today I woke up with my dream girl, she rich as a Beatle". That's obviously not cool.

You already messed up. RICO started off as Drake's song. He recorded the first verse and let Meek buy it as a favor (which is why he said he won't do Meek any more favors in B2B). They even kept the View, views intro.



where is the evidence that RICO was drakes song.I have never seen that anywhere. RICO is a drug term. I cant see how that was drake song first. Out of all the reference tracks thats the one thats the most suspect, cause its very much the same verse. This aint no hook.

When the song first came out everyone was saying that. It explains why Drama would have the reference too if it was a throwaway from IYRTITL and it fits the story that QM worked with Drake prior to the release of that album.

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IllmaticHandler wrote:you don't get it. He gets mad at friends when they don't hold him down. Listen If I am doing something, and a friend dont help me with it...then I am looking at them funny and I am getting at them to. I make short films. When my so called freinds act like they cant help me promote my work, i have barked on them to. If a freind of mine is doing something, I am always there to help them do they thing. To me that's part of the game, holding a friend down.


I just don't like that he's airing business out publicly. I've learned that some friends only show up when it's beneficial to them and cut them out of my circles quickly. But this is Meek saying "you owe me promotion or else" at the point that it's happened twice. The Drake one has a lot of miscommunication behind it imo, it seems like Drake is thinking "look I did you a favor with a verse, that's your promo" and Meek's mindset is "I PAID for it, that's not how favors work" ...and I can see both sides, but it doesn't need to turn into something public imho especially not with such a prepared character assault as leaking reference tracks.

If Meek said "I paid drake for a verse and he didn't even write it, that's like stealing" from jump instead of "he didn't retweet my album" I'd have a different outlook on it.

Yep. IH knows he would never air out his friends to the world because loyal people don't do that. Meek is a complete snake. At least Drake isn't putting that air around him and acting like he's not a snake he makes it well known he's about his money first. Meek is a lame forreal. I know dudes like him and I keep them at a distance there's nothing cool with dudes acting like females.
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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV 

Post#682 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Aug 5, 2015 2:04 pm

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E-Balla wrote:You already messed up. RICO started off as Drake's song. He recorded the first verse and let Meek buy it as a favor (which is why he said he won't do Meek any more favors in B2B). They even kept the View, views intro.



where is the evidence that RICO was drakes song.I have never seen that anywhere. RICO is a drug term. I cant see how that was drake song first. Out of all the reference tracks thats the one thats the most suspect, cause its very much the same verse. This aint no hook.

When the song first came out everyone was saying that. It explains why Drama would have the reference too if it was a throwaway from IYRTITL and it fits the story that QM worked with Drake prior to the release of that album.

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IllmaticHandler wrote:you don't get it. He gets mad at friends when they don't hold him down. Listen If I am doing something, and a friend dont help me with it...then I am looking at them funny and I am getting at them to. I make short films. When my so called freinds act like they cant help me promote my work, i have barked on them to. If a freind of mine is doing something, I am always there to help them do they thing. To me that's part of the game, holding a friend down.


I just don't like that he's airing business out publicly. I've learned that some friends only show up when it's beneficial to them and cut them out of my circles quickly. But this is Meek saying "you owe me promotion or else" at the point that it's happened twice. The Drake one has a lot of miscommunication behind it imo, it seems like Drake is thinking "look I did you a favor with a verse, that's your promo" and Meek's mindset is "I PAID for it, that's not how favors work" ...and I can see both sides, but it doesn't need to turn into something public imho especially not with such a prepared character assault as leaking reference tracks.

If Meek said "I paid drake for a verse and he didn't even write it, that's like stealing" from jump instead of "he didn't retweet my album" I'd have a different outlook on it.

Yep. IH knows he would never air out his friends to the world because loyal people don't do that. Meek is a complete snake. At least Drake isn't putting that air around him and acting like he's not a snake he makes it well known he's about his money first. Meek is a lame forreal. I know dudes like him and I keep them at a distance there's nothing cool with dudes acting like females.



Maybe the verse, but I cant see the song.If It was a throwaway verse, that was paid for, i can see that. Drake making a song called "rico" does not fit with the theme of his Album. Its safe to say RICO the song is Meek Mills, and that the verse was a verse that drake did not use.
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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV 

Post#683 » by E-Balla » Wed Aug 5, 2015 2:07 pm

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IllmaticHandler wrote:you don't get it. He gets mad at friends when they don't hold him down. Listen If I am doing something, and a friend dont help me with it...then I am looking at them funny and I am getting at them to. I make short films. When my so called freinds act like they cant help me promote my work, i have barked on them to. If a freind of mine is doing something, I am always there to help them do they thing. To me that's part of the game, holding a friend down.


I just don't like that he's airing business out publicly. I've learned that some friends only show up when it's beneficial to them and cut them out of my circles quickly. But this is Meek saying "you owe me promotion or else" at the point that it's happened twice. The Drake one has a lot of miscommunication behind it imo, it seems like Drake is thinking "look I did you a favor with a verse, that's your promo" and Meek's mindset is "I PAID for it, that's not how favors work" ...and I can see both sides, but it doesn't need to turn into something public imho especially not with such a prepared character assault as leaking reference tracks.

If Meek said "I paid drake for a verse and he didn't even write it, that's like stealing" from jump instead of "he didn't retweet my album" I'd have a different outlook on it.



Yeah it did not have to turn public, but to meeks credit, he handled it first behind the scene. Its not as if his first instinct was to air him out. At that point Meek was doing Drake a favor and keeping that whole Q Miller thing under raps. Its safe to say it was a secret in many circles up till that point. People say that Drake thinks he is hot ****, and its why many people dont **** with him. I dont see how he could not see Meeks point and understand his frustration and let it go, instead he held on to it and didnt even help him out. Drake showed how arrogant he is... " im doing you a favor" ??? it makes me wonder what his real intentions, on wearing a free meek mil t shirt is about. Im starting to think he did it for cool points for himself. Friends can have heated disagreements, Drake held onto it to hard. He was clearly butt hurt.

What? His first instinct wasn't to air him out so it's obvious that's not why he aired him out he did it only after Drake didn't go to his show and didn't tweet his album (even though the official OVO account tweeted his album). That's a b*tch move. He wasn't doing Drake a favor at all by holding on to a different verse from Drake's outside of the first few bars. Like really what was a secret to these industry dudes like Cass said he wouldn't be surprised if all of these top guys had a few people helping them write because he's written for plenty of these dudes. Meek wasn't mad about that at all he was mad at something else completely and he thought that by releasing something everyone has one of but the fans don't know he could get back at Drake for not showing up to his show. Also hating the guy with the number one sales for feeling like he's number one isn't something men should do. Whole bunch of chatty patties, if Drake feels like he's the best (as all other rappers do - just see Kendrick and Kanye and their arrogance) why get mad at that? People not messing with Drake because he feels he's the best are just hating.

And maybe he wore the free Meek shirt because he and Meek were cool? Who put Meek on his first tour? Even if he only messed with Meek that much as a business move it's the industry that's why nearly everybody messes with him. Drake was putting food in this man's mouth and **** talking about Drake being disloyal and not honest how about Meek no turning on a guy that's held you down as far as your music goes from day one.
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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV 

Post#684 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Aug 5, 2015 2:09 pm

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I just don't like that he's airing business out publicly. I've learned that some friends only show up when it's beneficial to them and cut them out of my circles quickly. But this is Meek saying "you owe me promotion or else" at the point that it's happened twice. The Drake one has a lot of miscommunication behind it imo, it seems like Drake is thinking "look I did you a favor with a verse, that's your promo" and Meek's mindset is "I PAID for it, that's not how favors work" ...and I can see both sides, but it doesn't need to turn into something public imho especially not with such a prepared character assault as leaking reference tracks.

If Meek said "I paid drake for a verse and he didn't even write it, that's like stealing" from jump instead of "he didn't retweet my album" I'd have a different outlook on it.



Yeah it did not have to turn public, but to meeks credit, he handled it first behind the scene. Its not as if his first instinct was to air him out. At that point Meek was doing Drake a favor and keeping that whole Q Miller thing under raps. Its safe to say it was a secret in many circles up till that point. People say that Drake thinks he is hot ****, and its why many people dont **** with him. I dont see how he could not see Meeks point and understand his frustration and let it go, instead he held on to it and didnt even help him out. Drake showed how arrogant he is... " im doing you a favor" ??? it makes me wonder what his real intentions, on wearing a free meek mil t shirt is about. Im starting to think he did it for cool points for himself. Friends can have heated disagreements, Drake held onto it to hard. He was clearly butt hurt.

What? His first instinct wasn't to air him out so it's obvious that's not why he aired him out he did it only after Drake didn't go to his show and didn't tweet his album (even though the official OVO account tweeted his album). That's a b*tch move. He wasn't doing Drake a favor at all by holding on to a different verse from Drake's outside of the first few bars. Like really what was a secret to these industry dudes like Cass said he wouldn't be surprised if all of these top guys had a few people helping them write because he's written for plenty of these dudes. Meek wasn't mad about that at all he was mad at something else completely and he thought that by releasing something everyone has one of but the fans don't know he could get back at Drake for not showing up to his show. Also hating the guy with the number one sales for feeling like he's number one isn't something men should do. Whole bunch of chatty patties, if Drake feels like he's the best (as all other rappers do - just see Kendrick and Kanye and their arrogance) why get mad at that? People not messing with Drake because he feels he's the best are just hating.

And maybe he wore the free Meek shirt because he and Meek were cool? Who put Meek on his first tour? Even if he only messed with Meek that much as a business move it's the industry that's why nearly everybody messes with him. Drake was putting food in this man's mouth and **** talking about Drake being disloyal and not honest how about Meek no turning on a guy that's held you down as far as your music goes from day one.



How is its his first instinct and the reports are that meek barked on him months ago. To me that tells me, he handled behind closed doors first. If his first instinct was to air out drake, it would have happened months ago. You have way to much defense for Drake. Its almost as if he can do no wrong in your eyes.


Im sorry you dont wear a free Meek Mill T shirt then dont help the cat out...thats lame.
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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV 

Post#685 » by E-Balla » Wed Aug 5, 2015 2:11 pm

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where is the evidence that RICO was drakes song.I have never seen that anywhere. RICO is a drug term. I cant see how that was drake song first. Out of all the reference tracks thats the one thats the most suspect, cause its very much the same verse. This aint no hook.

When the song first came out everyone was saying that. It explains why Drama would have the reference too if it was a throwaway from IYRTITL and it fits the story that QM worked with Drake prior to the release of that album.

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I just don't like that he's airing business out publicly. I've learned that some friends only show up when it's beneficial to them and cut them out of my circles quickly. But this is Meek saying "you owe me promotion or else" at the point that it's happened twice. The Drake one has a lot of miscommunication behind it imo, it seems like Drake is thinking "look I did you a favor with a verse, that's your promo" and Meek's mindset is "I PAID for it, that's not how favors work" ...and I can see both sides, but it doesn't need to turn into something public imho especially not with such a prepared character assault as leaking reference tracks.

If Meek said "I paid drake for a verse and he didn't even write it, that's like stealing" from jump instead of "he didn't retweet my album" I'd have a different outlook on it.

Yep. IH knows he would never air out his friends to the world because loyal people don't do that. Meek is a complete snake. At least Drake isn't putting that air around him and acting like he's not a snake he makes it well known he's about his money first. Meek is a lame forreal. I know dudes like him and I keep them at a distance there's nothing cool with dudes acting like females.



Maybe the verse, but I cant see the song.If It was a throwaway verse, that was paid for, i can see that. Drake making a song called "rico" does not fit with the theme of his Album. Its safe to say RICO the song is Meek Mills, and that the verse was a verse that drake did not use.

It's possible he might've had the song started for someone else. I mean Vinylz made the beat and he's worked with Drake plenty of times but never Meek or any of MMG (outside of FWMYKIGI a Jay-Z song and No New Friends which features Drake). He worked on a few of those IYRTITL songs too.
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Post#686 » by E-Balla » Wed Aug 5, 2015 2:17 pm

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Yeah it did not have to turn public, but to meeks credit, he handled it first behind the scene. Its not as if his first instinct was to air him out. At that point Meek was doing Drake a favor and keeping that whole Q Miller thing under raps. Its safe to say it was a secret in many circles up till that point. People say that Drake thinks he is hot ****, and its why many people dont **** with him. I dont see how he could not see Meeks point and understand his frustration and let it go, instead he held on to it and didnt even help him out. Drake showed how arrogant he is... " im doing you a favor" ??? it makes me wonder what his real intentions, on wearing a free meek mil t shirt is about. Im starting to think he did it for cool points for himself. Friends can have heated disagreements, Drake held onto it to hard. He was clearly butt hurt.

What? His first instinct wasn't to air him out so it's obvious that's not why he aired him out he did it only after Drake didn't go to his show and didn't tweet his album (even though the official OVO account tweeted his album). That's a b*tch move. He wasn't doing Drake a favor at all by holding on to a different verse from Drake's outside of the first few bars. Like really what was a secret to these industry dudes like Cass said he wouldn't be surprised if all of these top guys had a few people helping them write because he's written for plenty of these dudes. Meek wasn't mad about that at all he was mad at something else completely and he thought that by releasing something everyone has one of but the fans don't know he could get back at Drake for not showing up to his show. Also hating the guy with the number one sales for feeling like he's number one isn't something men should do. Whole bunch of chatty patties, if Drake feels like he's the best (as all other rappers do - just see Kendrick and Kanye and their arrogance) why get mad at that? People not messing with Drake because he feels he's the best are just hating.

And maybe he wore the free Meek shirt because he and Meek were cool? Who put Meek on his first tour? Even if he only messed with Meek that much as a business move it's the industry that's why nearly everybody messes with him. Drake was putting food in this man's mouth and **** talking about Drake being disloyal and not honest how about Meek no turning on a guy that's held you down as far as your music goes from day one.



How is its his first instinct and the reports are that meek barked on him months ago. To me that tells me, he handled behind closed doors first. If his first instinct was to air out drake, it would have happened months ago. You have way to much defense for Drake. Its almost as if he can do no wrong in your eyes.


Im sorry you dont wear a free Meek Mill T shirt then dont help the cat out...thats lame.

No it's sounding like you are trying to blame Drake no matter what. One question: If they already spoke on it months ago and Meek kept it on his album and didn't air him out why did he just all of a sudden air him out now?

And how in the hell did Drake not help him out? He put him on his first **** tour! He was the lead feature on Meek's lead single on both of his albums. He's done nothing but help Meek the **** are you saying?
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Post#687 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Aug 5, 2015 2:41 pm

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E-Balla wrote:What? His first instinct wasn't to air him out so it's obvious that's not why he aired him out he did it only after Drake didn't go to his show and didn't tweet his album (even though the official OVO account tweeted his album). That's a b*tch move. He wasn't doing Drake a favor at all by holding on to a different verse from Drake's outside of the first few bars. Like really what was a secret to these industry dudes like Cass said he wouldn't be surprised if all of these top guys had a few people helping them write because he's written for plenty of these dudes. Meek wasn't mad about that at all he was mad at something else completely and he thought that by releasing something everyone has one of but the fans don't know he could get back at Drake for not showing up to his show. Also hating the guy with the number one sales for feeling like he's number one isn't something men should do. Whole bunch of chatty patties, if Drake feels like he's the best (as all other rappers do - just see Kendrick and Kanye and their arrogance) why get mad at that? People not messing with Drake because he feels he's the best are just hating.

And maybe he wore the free Meek shirt because he and Meek were cool? Who put Meek on his first tour? Even if he only messed with Meek that much as a business move it's the industry that's why nearly everybody messes with him. Drake was putting food in this man's mouth and **** talking about Drake being disloyal and not honest how about Meek no turning on a guy that's held you down as far as your music goes from day one.



How is its his first instinct and the reports are that meek barked on him months ago. To me that tells me, he handled behind closed doors first. If his first instinct was to air out drake, it would have happened months ago. You have way to much defense for Drake. Its almost as if he can do no wrong in your eyes.


Im sorry you dont wear a free Meek Mill T shirt then dont help the cat out...thats lame.

No it's sounding like you are trying to blame Drake no matter what. One question: If they already spoke on it months ago and Meek kept it on his album and didn't air him out why did he just all of a sudden air him out now?

And how in the hell did Drake not help him out? He put him on his first **** tour! He was the lead feature on Meek's lead single on both of his albums. He's done nothing but help Meek the **** are you saying?



You are old enough to KNOW. There is TWO sides to a story. It takes two to tango. To think that drake plays NO role in this... would be to dick ride him. Come on...you know full well, we dont know everything. Your defending every drake move in this, in blind faith. To me...the BOTH of them are responsible for this.
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How is its his first instinct and the reports are that meek barked on him months ago. To me that tells me, he handled behind closed doors first. If his first instinct was to air out drake, it would have happened months ago. You have way to much defense for Drake. Its almost as if he can do no wrong in your eyes.


Im sorry you dont wear a free Meek Mill T shirt then dont help the cat out...thats lame.

No it's sounding like you are trying to blame Drake no matter what. One question: If they already spoke on it months ago and Meek kept it on his album and didn't air him out why did he just all of a sudden air him out now?

And how in the hell did Drake not help him out? He put him on his first **** tour! He was the lead feature on Meek's lead single on both of his albums. He's done nothing but help Meek the **** are you saying?



You are old enough to KNOW. There is TWO sides to a story. It takes two to tango. To think that drake plays NO role in this... would be to dick ride him. Come on...you know full well, we dont know everything. Your defending every drake move in this, in blind faith. To me...the BOTH of them are responsible for this.

:lol: So you can't answer the question? That's all you need to know about who's dick riding. Let me guess it was AB, Wale, and Cass' fault too?
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Post#689 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Aug 5, 2015 2:53 pm

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E-Balla wrote:No it's sounding like you are trying to blame Drake no matter what. One question: If they already spoke on it months ago and Meek kept it on his album and didn't air him out why did he just all of a sudden air him out now?

And how in the hell did Drake not help him out? He put him on his first **** tour! He was the lead feature on Meek's lead single on both of his albums. He's done nothing but help Meek the **** are you saying?



You are old enough to KNOW. There is TWO sides to a story. It takes two to tango. To think that drake plays NO role in this... would be to dick ride him. Come on...you know full well, we dont know everything. Your defending every drake move in this, in blind faith. To me...the BOTH of them are responsible for this.

:lol: So you can't answer the question? That's all you need to know about who's dick riding. Let me guess it was AB, Wale, and Cass' fault too?


answer what question that friends can switch up on you? you keep bringing up past ****...Its obvious they were friends at one time. You are being a groupie here. You never heard of friends falling out? Drake wearing a Free Meel shirt dont mean ****. How Drake acts AFTER Meek comes home is the real test of freindship. To Lazy to write a verse, wont even help him promote. Wont even show up to his event....WTF are you missing here? Nobody is 100% the villain here.
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Post#690 » by j4remi » Wed Aug 5, 2015 2:54 pm

I'll say I get the sense that neither or these cats is particularly liked by the older generation in hip hop. Not just off media, but interactions I have with older heads and connected ones in particular. So I think both have arrogance that can fuel a beef like this and I wouldn't be shocked if the vets are all just enjoying the show and extra ammo in case they ever have to give one of those boys a lesson.

As an aside: Did the Meek diss from last night leak fully? I've seen some excerpts and that's it. Heard it was disappointing but I wouldn't put it past Drake to be too petty to let it go and take his win...threepeat could drop if the diss from Meek rolls basically, whether it's a necessary retort or not.
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You are old enough to KNOW. There is TWO sides to a story. It takes two to tango. To think that drake plays NO role in this... would be to dick ride him. Come on...you know full well, we dont know everything. Your defending every drake move in this, in blind faith. To me...the BOTH of them are responsible for this.

:lol: So you can't answer the question? That's all you need to know about who's dick riding. Let me guess it was AB, Wale, and Cass' fault too?


answer what question that friends can switch up on you? you keep bringing up past ****...Its obvious they were friends at one time. You are being a groupie here. You never heard of friends falling out? Drake wearing a Free Meel shirt dont mean ****. How Drake acts AFTER Meek comes home is the real test of freindship. To Lazy to write a verse, wont even help him promote. Wont even show up to his event....WTF are you missing here? Nobody is 100% the villain here.

The real issue and to air someone out and come at their career for something like that is petty and something grown men shouldn't do. Meek is acting like a 15 year old girl and that's the main reason he couldn't win this beef because from day one he was looking like a little b*tch. Yeah Drake wasn't being the best friend he could be and showing out for Meek completely but since Meek got out he gave him a hit song which led to the best album sales of his career. If your friend gave you $250 because you needed it but didn't show up to your girl's party would you start airing him out publicly? No self respecting man would react like that. Meek has estrogen running through his veins and nothing you try to explain away can explain away attempting to end someone's career for not tweeting out your album or showing at your concert.
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E-Balla wrote::lol: So you can't answer the question? That's all you need to know about who's dick riding. Let me guess it was AB, Wale, and Cass' fault too?


answer what question that friends can switch up on you? you keep bringing up past ****...Its obvious they were friends at one time. You are being a groupie here. You never heard of friends falling out? Drake wearing a Free Meel shirt dont mean ****. How Drake acts AFTER Meek comes home is the real test of freindship. To Lazy to write a verse, wont even help him promote. Wont even show up to his event....WTF are you missing here? Nobody is 100% the villain here.

The real issue and to air someone out and come at their career for something like that is petty and something grown men shouldn't do. Meek is acting like a 15 year old girl and that's the main reason he couldn't win this beef because from day one he was looking like a little b*tch. Yeah Drake wasn't being the best friend he could be and showing out for Meek completely but since Meek got out he gave him a hit song which led to the best album sales of his career. If your friend gave you $250 because you needed it but didn't show up to your girl's party would you start airing him out publicly? No self respecting man would react like that. Meek has estrogen running through his veins and nothing you try to explain away can explain away attempting to end someone's career for not tweeting out your album or showing at your concert.



See the problem here is that. I already BEEN said that Meek did some BS here. Thats the difference between me and you. I acknowledge both of them being lames. All I keep hearing from you thoe, is how Drake is the angel in this and Meek is the bitch. You Need to acknowledge that Drake has Estrogen running in his veins as well in this. I am not going to be an outsider and judge their beef to the point that I am bias. These dudes is millionaires are far removed from me knowing every detail of what they do.
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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV 

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answer what question that friends can switch up on you? you keep bringing up past ****...Its obvious they were friends at one time. You are being a groupie here. You never heard of friends falling out? Drake wearing a Free Meel shirt dont mean ****. How Drake acts AFTER Meek comes home is the real test of freindship. To Lazy to write a verse, wont even help him promote. Wont even show up to his event....WTF are you missing here? Nobody is 100% the villain here.

The real issue and to air someone out and come at their career for something like that is petty and something grown men shouldn't do. Meek is acting like a 15 year old girl and that's the main reason he couldn't win this beef because from day one he was looking like a little b*tch. Yeah Drake wasn't being the best friend he could be and showing out for Meek completely but since Meek got out he gave him a hit song which led to the best album sales of his career. If your friend gave you $250 because you needed it but didn't show up to your girl's party would you start airing him out publicly? No self respecting man would react like that. Meek has estrogen running through his veins and nothing you try to explain away can explain away attempting to end someone's career for not tweeting out your album or showing at your concert.



See the problem here is that. I already BEEN said that Meek did some BS here. Thats the difference between me and you. I acknowledge both of them being lames. All I keep hearing from you thoe, is how Drake is the angel in this and Meek is the bitch. You Need to acknowledge that Drake has Estrogen running in his veins as well in this. I am not going to be an outsider and judge their beef to the point that I am bias. These dudes is millionaires are far removed from me knowing every detail of what they do.

How? What did Drake do that was so messed up? He thought he was a big draw (he is)? He thought his features were a favor (they objectively were considering that his two most successful singles both have Drake features)? Like I said Drake not showing up at Meek's concert isn't a big deal especially if they really did have an issue with each other in that moment. I've had arguments with friends and stopped messing with them for a while. That's natural. Trying to slander someone's name because they didn't go to your show isn't.
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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV 

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E-Balla wrote:The real issue and to air someone out and come at their career for something like that is petty and something grown men shouldn't do. Meek is acting like a 15 year old girl and that's the main reason he couldn't win this beef because from day one he was looking like a little b*tch. Yeah Drake wasn't being the best friend he could be and showing out for Meek completely but since Meek got out he gave him a hit song which led to the best album sales of his career. If your friend gave you $250 because you needed it but didn't show up to your girl's party would you start airing him out publicly? No self respecting man would react like that. Meek has estrogen running through his veins and nothing you try to explain away can explain away attempting to end someone's career for not tweeting out your album or showing at your concert.



See the problem here is that. I already BEEN said that Meek did some BS here. Thats the difference between me and you. I acknowledge both of them being lames. All I keep hearing from you thoe, is how Drake is the angel in this and Meek is the bitch. You Need to acknowledge that Drake has Estrogen running in his veins as well in this. I am not going to be an outsider and judge their beef to the point that I am bias. These dudes is millionaires are far removed from me knowing every detail of what they do.

How? What did Drake do that was so messed up? He thought he was a big draw (he is)? He thought his features were a favor (they objectively were considering that his two most successful singles both have Drake features)? Like I said Drake not showing up at Meek's concert isn't a big deal especially if they really did have an issue with each other in that moment. I've had arguments with friends and stopped messing with them for a while. That's natural. Trying to slander someone's name because they didn't go to your show isn't.



Listen. We not going to agree. I will just leave it as that.
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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV 

Post#695 » by E-Balla » Wed Aug 5, 2015 3:47 pm

Actually talking through the f*ckery Meek engaged now makes me want to see Drake end his career just for the hell of it. :lol: I'm with Greenie now. :lol:
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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV 

Post#696 » by JBreezeNY » Wed Aug 5, 2015 6:29 pm

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NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Was it because he didn't write his own verse to Rico? Or was it because Drake didn't show him love at one of his previous concerts? Every reason I've heard sounds petty

What happened is a combination of things.

Meek got Drake for the Rico feature, paid him x amount of money for the feature, cool.

Drake sends his verse over, Meek sees a line that Drake said "The girl of your dreams to me is probably not a challenge", whereas Meek in his verse says "Today I woke up with my dream girl, she rich as a Beatle". That's obviously not cool.

You already messed up. RICO started off as Drake's song. He recorded the first verse and let Meek buy it as a favor (which is why he said he won't do Meek any more favors in B2B). They even kept the View, views intro.

It doesn't matter if it was Drake's song first. Meek ended up with the record & asked Drake for his verse, which like I said he paid him x amount of money for it.
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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV 

Post#697 » by E-Balla » Wed Aug 5, 2015 6:29 pm

Chance and the Based God just released a mixtape. 8/10 all freestyles.
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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV 

Post#698 » by j4remi » Wed Aug 5, 2015 6:39 pm

I like Chance, one of the few in this latest gen that when he's on a track you absolutely know it's him.
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Post#699 » by Durango » Wed Aug 5, 2015 6:51 pm

Lil B washed Chance on nearly every track


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Post#700 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Aug 5, 2015 7:06 pm

Reality Rap


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