Suns Offseason Thread 4: Where's Terrence Williams?

[blacksun]

Lets not trade Keiff to Detroit or anywhere close to Detroit. These two deserve to be separated and miserable.

[RunDogGun]

If we get Taj, Teletovic can start over him for offense-defense balance and spacing. Then Taj and Len comes off the bench...just wow what a defense they would provide. And Len can create a little space for Taj also.

That might work



looking at Philly....I'll take rights to Saric and a pick, plus a chunky TPE for Keif and a boot in the ass.

I really like the Philly idea, but there is no way we get a pick from them, that's all they like. We'd have to include a pick, but we could get Saric and someone else for Keef and the Cav pick? Maybe?

[thamadkant]

Add Saric to the list I want for Markieff Morris.


I think he can be a a hybrid forward fit next to two combo guards and a defensive center.


Markieff Morris for Saric straight up.

[RunDogGun]

Looking at Philly's trades over the last year or so, have they made a deal where they haven't received a pick?

[Saberestar]

List of players that I want for Markieff ( we can add some pick if necessary ) and are realistic, although difficult, options:

• A. Gordon, Magic.
• N. Mirotic, Bulls.
• S. Johnson, Pistons. Not sure if available for Markieff and a pick...but it would be amazing.
• Kidd-Gilchrist, Hornets. He can play PF and our defense would be great. Marion type of player if he improves.
• K. Anderson, Spurs. We need a third team to make that trade, but Anderson can be an outstanding PF-PG in the future.

Those were my five favourite options to trade for. Another OK options can be....

• G. Dieng, Timberwolves.
• T. Snell, Bulls. I think he is gonna have a breakout season, we can look for a PF later.
• C. Zeller, Hornets. Not really sold on that one...but is a decent option.

All of them seem high character guys with upside and some of them probably have been underutilized until now.

[jcsunsfan]

I also believe that the most realistic scenario would be Kieff for Ilyasova. If indeed, Kieff wants out, SVG seems high on Marcus that he may want to trade for his brother. They envision Marcus as the starter and a 'mentor' to Stanley so they could have Drummond and the twins at the front court. Meanwhile we'll have a rotation of Ilyasova, Teletovic and Leuer as our stretch 4's.

Ilyasova still fits, I think. He's just 28. Kieff is locked on a much better contract so Detroit ought to add a sweetener but then again this news of Kieff wanting out hurts our chances of getting a fair deal. Kieff for Ilyasova seems about right. I say do it for chemistry and maybe a Cinderella-run built upon good synergy and players knowing their role.

VanGundy is absolutely out of his mind if he puts those two together again after the events of the last few days: he has to be wondering if trading for Marcus was a good idea.

[dmastro32]

Markieff, Archie + 1st rounder to SacTown for Rudy.

PHX
C - Chandler, Len
PF - Rudy, Teletovic
SF - Tucker, Warren
SG - Knight, Weems, Booker
PG - Bledsoe, Price

SAC
C - Cousins, Koufos
PF - Markieff, WCS
SF - Casspi, Butler
SG - McLemore, Bellinelli, Archie
PG - Rondo, Collison

Little skeptical never seen Rudy play the 4 other than in short spurts now you want him to start there. He isn't the most consistent shooter either really want a sharp shooting power forward

[dmastro32]

What about a trade with Toronto and Charlotte?

Suns: Ross, Patterson, and MKG
hornets: Morris, Pj & Cleveland 1st
Raptors: Batum, and M.Williams

What do you think?

Gives each team something they need

[NTB]

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[Saberestar]

What about a trade with Toronto and Charlotte?

Suns: Ross, Patterson, and MKG
hornets: Morris, Pj & Cleveland 1st
Raptors: Batum, and M.Williams

What do you think?

Gives each team something they need

Not a bad trade, probably Hornets want more because they give in that deal two very good players.

[MrTwister]

Bogdanovic is playing vs France right now, already hit a 3 and drove at Gobert and drew a foul and 2 FT so far.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2z0ma7_live-equipe-de-france-de-basket-france-serbie_sport

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[King4Day]

What about a trade with Toronto and Charlotte?

Suns: Ross, Patterson, and MKG
hornets: Morris, Pj & Cleveland 1st
Raptors: Batum, and M.Williams

What do you think?

Gives each team something they need

I don't think the Hornets can include Batum in a deal with other players until midseason but more importantly, they get the short end in this deal. They have no reason to give up MKG. They could get away with a Batum/Kieff swap or a deal surrounding MKG and change.


I think our best bet would be getting Zeller from them.

[NavLDO]

Celtics fan here, what about Sully and Evan Turner for Markieff and a future 1st?

Where do we sign? Of course, I'm a Sully fan-boy here, so not sure many others here agree. I think that he has potential, still.

[Qwigglez]

Sully isn't worth a 1st rounder. Evan Turner doesn't fit our system because he's not a very good shooter. Celtics should be giving us a future 1st for that package. ^

[saintEscaton]

Mehh we'd be lucky to get a servicable role player/ late protected first from a playoff bound team.You guys are over valuing Queef once again . We're not gunna extract a king's ransom from him just because we can take him hostage and play hardball until he submits. But sitting his ass down at the end of the bench and having him languish as punishment would probably only to serve depreciate his value as a trade chip further until we give in to a lowball offer come the deadline just for the sake of getting rid of him. I would assume that he would at least keep up his conditioning if he was to be blacklisted and suspended from team activities but who knows?

[Fo-Real]

Evan Turner is terrible and I am not a fan of Sully.

[Bogyo]

Proposed a Payne+Bennett in the "Kieff" thread, but this seems to be more active. I wont post/duplicate it here as well, but it seems like this thread is more active. If anyone cares to read it there and respond here that s fine as well for me.

Also, no to Sully. While stats are similar and he rebounds, he is even worse on D, plus I'm somewhat allergic to athletes who can't get in shape. That's not really acceptable in my book. He'll get his next contract, and balloon up. No thanks.

[Saberestar]

Proposed a Payne+Bennett in the "Kieff" thread, but this seems to be more active. I wont post/duplicate it here as well, but it seems like this thread is more active. If anyone cares to read it there and respond here that s fine as well for me.

Also, no to Sully. While stats are similar and he rebounds, he is even worse on D, plus I'm somewhat allergic to athletes who can't get in shape. That's not really acceptable in my book. He'll get his next contract, and balloon up. No thanks.

I don't like Bennett enough to trade for him, I think we can grab a better player or a pick.
Payne has a really low IQ and he has no upside at all, not a fan. I prefer Teletovic or even Tucker playing PF for us next season.

[letsgosuns]

Ryan McDonough was able to turn Goran Dragic into two first round picks with little to no protection. That was after Dragic publicly destroyed the organization, was a pending free agent, and was having a down season. I am hopeful McDonough will be able to get a good return for Markieff.

[Saberestar]

Ryan McDonough was able to turn Goran Dragic into two first round picks with little to no protection. That was after Dragic publicly destroyed the organization, was a pending free agent, and was having a down season. I am hopeful McDonough will be able to get a good return for Markieff.

Yes , I am not really worried about the situation because McDonough knows his thing. This summer all his signings and trades have been great in my opinion, so I hope he makes another good choice reagardind Markieff.