Fantasy Basketball Discussion thread

Post #41 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 3:52 pm

wordsenuff wrote:lets do this!! so us being tied for 3rd in the china league, we still move up to d-league?

If the D league moves to 14 teams.

wordsenuff · Post #42 » by **wordsenuff** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 4:24 pm

im also interested in the h2h league too. so if theres a spot open, ill bee dat!

MathiasPW · Post #43 » by **MathiasPW** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 4:40 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
wordsenuff wrote:lets do this!! so us being tied for 3rd in the china league, we still move up to d-league?

If the D league moves to 14 teams.

Last years' consensus was 12 in Premier (2 demotions, 2 promotions), 12 in D -League (4 demotions, 2 promotions) , 14 in China (2 promotions, no demotions).

China League could be split into more than one if we have enough players.

If you wanna rediscuss the whole system again, that is fine. Will take some time, though.

BringinDaRuckus · Post #44 » by **BringinDaRuckus** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 4:45 pm

I was in the D-League and placed 4th out of 12. Looking to do better this year and get back into the Premier league.

edurham88 · Post #45 » by **edurham88** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:52 pm

If there is another spot I would be in also.

Post #46 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 9:27 pm

MathiasPW wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
wordsenuff wrote:lets do this!! so us being tied for 3rd in the china league, we still move up to d-league?

If the D league moves to 14 teams.

Last years' consensus was 12 in Premier (2 demotions, 2 promotions), 12 in D -League (4 demotions, 2 promotions) , 14 in China (2 promotions, no demotions).

China League could be split into more than one if we have enough players.

If you wanna rediscuss the whole system again, that is fine. Will take some time, though.

I remember someone mentioning 12, so I thought that was what premier is doing, but it seems most here want 14. I guess we could take a vote.

So if it works that way, five would move down from premier, three would move up from D league, and that leaves you with the issue of having to move five down from the D league to the china league and no one from the china league could move up.

YouTube · Post #47 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 10:44 pm

Premier League was discussed and is/was going to be dropped down to 12. It has been discussed for sometime now, and this always seems to happen. The few people that want it to be at 14 say, "Lets keep it at 14 and change it next year to 12, that i would be ok with". When next season rolls around, they flip the script and pull the same bs, "14 again one more season and then change it to 12". I swear it happens year after year after year. I also recall a few holdouts trying to threaten that IF it does change to 12 that they will leave and try to get into the 14 player D-league.

It was already discussed last season and the majority seemed to be in agreement that this season would be the start of a 12 player league.

But im willing to once again let the players vote and decide what they want to do. Instead of a poll (where people that are not in the league can vote and affect the results), i want them to vote on this thread. Its currently going to be a 12 player league. if there are 6-7 posters (Majority) that say they want it to remain at 14, then it will change, if not, then it will go to having 12 (as was discussed and agreed upon last year).

KopLegend · Post #48 » by **KopLegend** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 11:24 pm

I'm in for Fantasy this year! Was in the Premier League last year - might have dropped down to the D-League though, can't remember :crazy:

Post #49 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 12:43 am

Kerrsed wrote:Premier League was discussed and is/was going to be dropped down to 12. It has been discussed for sometime now, and this always seems to happen. The few people that want it to be at 14 say, "Lets keep it at 14 and change it next year to 12, that i would be ok with". When next season rolls around, they flip the script and pull the same bs, "14 again one more season and then change it to 12". I swear it happens year after year after year. I also recall a few holdouts trying to threaten that IF it does change to 12 that they will leave and try to get into the 14 player D-league.

It was already discussed last season and the majority seemed to be in agreement that this season would be the start of a 12 player league.

But im willing to once again let the players vote and decide what they want to do. Instead of a poll (where people that are not in the league can vote and affect the results), i want them to vote on this thread. Its currently going to be a 12 player league. if there are 6-7 posters (Majority) that say they want it to remain at 14, then it will change, if not, then it will go to having 12 (as was discussed and agreed upon last year).

But what is your opinion on the other leagues? I know you may not care since you are in premier, but if D league also stays at 12, no one can move up from china, and they always thought they were playing for something. And if five move down from premier, 5 have to move down from the D league instead of 3.

Personally I don't care what the premier league does. Typically more advanced leagues have more teams, not less. I think I recall you mentioning once that Premier would go to 12, and the others could stay at 14. This would at least allow the D league not to have to relegate 5 people to China, but once again, no one could move up from the China league at all.

But with new players, maybe if the top two go to 12, we move like the top 7 of China, and the 5 relegated from D league into the Euroleague.

Then the bottom 7 and newcomers are the new China league.

If just about everyone from last year plays, and you add the newcomers we could have four levels plus the h2h league.

Post #50 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 12:53 am

And I will start a fantasy football list here in case people are interested. So far

bwgood77
wordsenuff
dmastro32
MrMiyagi
Zero Tolerance
Ulquiorria
WeekapaugGroove
fetznjtown

YouTube · Post #51 » by **Kerrsed** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 2:26 am

It was supposed to be 12/14/14 last i knew.

Ive stated my preference for Premier league is 12. Teams get annihilated when one of their top 2 picks goes down with an injury for the season, then they are stuck fending for scraps against guys who play the wavier wire game (constantly dropping one or two of their bottom guys for a hot pick-up of the week). Its crazy when at the end of the season you see people with over 100+ roster moves made. Better players on the wavier wire to choose from so you wont be at a total disadvantage when your franchise star goes down.

Post #52 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 2:43 am

Kerrsed wrote:It was supposed to be 12/14/14 last i knew.

Ive stated my preference for Premier league is 12. Teams get annihilated when one of their top 2 picks goes down with an injury for the season, then they are stuck fending for scraps against guys who play the wavier wire game (constantly dropping one or two of their bottom guys for a hot pick-up of the week). Its crazy when at the end of the season you see people with over 100+ roster moves made. Better players on the wavier wire to choose from so you wont be at a total disadvantage when your franchise star goes down.

I'm fine for whatever people want. I think it would be best if all leagues are the same though. I admit I was screwed in the 14 team last year because I had like 3-5 players out much of the season and there were scraps on the waiver wire. But the thing I hate about smaller leagues is that there are enough good players to drop and add end of rotation guys daily to get ahead. That's why I have continually mentioned adding an IR spot...so you can stash your injured player there and still add a player.

We could also meet in the middle at 13 teams.

Calvin Klein · Post #53 » by **Calvin Klein** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 3:10 am

I'm in, of course

DRK · Post #54 » by **DRK** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 3:17 am

I used to think a 12 team league was great, but after last season it became apparent that even with a 14 team league, there is still quite alot of talent at the end of the draft. It comes down to your drafting abilities.

My biggest concern for contracting the league down to 12 team would be the 2 extra dudes that would be relegated. A little bit unfair on them I feel.

Post #55 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 3:25 am

It seems we have bball forever, DRK and TASTIC wanting 14, and Mathias and Kerrsed wanting 12.

So 3-2 now. I don't really care either way. I will post a tally here. I'm guessing the majority don't care much, but some seem to have strong opinions so if you do, chime in. I think we could settle in the middle if it is pretty close to a split.

sunskerr · Post #56 » by **sunskerr** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 3:29 am

DRK wrote:My biggest concern for contracting the league down to 12 team would be the 2 extra dudes that would be relegated. A little bit unfair on them I feel.

Since Im the 9th place guy I dont feel comfortable stating my opinion because if we demote 10,11,12,13 and 14 (5 teams) that means Im last in. If I said anything about this last year, that's the stance I'll take but I dont recall what it was.

I want to see the posts which say it was agreed upon last year that it would be changed to a 12 teamer.

YouTube · Post #57 » by **Kerrsed** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 4:14 am

The talk was about changing to a 12 team league and there were only really 2 objections, and they were more about it being unfair as we went into it the year before with the 3up/3down promotion/demotion system. The best idea was that the bottom 5 would go down (instead of the normal 3) and the 2 top D-Leaguers would go up. That was the basis of the idea.

As i re-read the thread, nothing was really agreed to, but it was left open so we wouldnt have the "unfair label given" if we did change it (as we never put in place the 3up/3 down like the year before. So that's why we are now voting on it. i have a feeling that i know at least 2 people will be against it (Mirv/Nevet as they would be the ones being demoted if it does change). Coldbyfletch/Kop/Brian? are the very bottom 3.

As for the thread discussing this, i found it: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1342467#start_here

YouTube · Post #58 » by **Kerrsed** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 4:18 am

Also, since EVERY YEAR we have people complaining that the draft lotto is rigged, i will be streaming it live on twitch for everyone to see. If you cant watch it live, it will be saved as a highlight, for you future viewing.

http://www.twitch.tv/kerrsed/profile

sunskerr · Post #59 » by **sunskerr** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 4:38 am

Kerrsed wrote:Also, since EVERY YEAR we have people complaining that the draft lotto is rigged, i will be streaming it live on twitch for everyone to see. If you cant watch it live, it will be saved as a highlight, for you future viewing.

http://www.twitch.tv/kerrsed/profile

Do we finally get envelopes or name drawing?

Post #60 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 4:38 am

OK, after reading the first few pages of that, I say we wait to see how many players we have, and we do 4 12 team leagues, or if we have more, 4 13 team leagues. At least 13 is meeting in the middle. I don't like seeing the top people in the chinese league not being able to move up so we create a euroleague for the group between D and chinese. We had 40 players last year and now we have five more wanting in, and likely some more...and I guess JDiddy leaving, though you never know with him. I do agree that with 12 team leagues it makes it more engaging because it is a closer race. With 14, if you fall behind due to an injury, you are finished and lose interest.

If we have fewer than 48 participants, we shrink the chinese league, and if we have more, we increase leagues to 13, or at least some of them. How does that sound?