Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV

Post #821 » by **j4remi** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 3:52 pm

E-Balla wrote:Oh yeah Honestly had no idea about this until Greenie told me it was about Dot last week. Yeah it most definitely wasn't Stay Schemin level.

It was such a slap boxing safe response that you HAVE to give Kendrick the W on the subliminals. Everyone was disappointed. But at least it's better than the Jay Z situation, I don't think Drake ever responded.

E-Balla · Post #822 » by **E-Balla** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 4:02 pm

j4remi wrote:
It was such a slap boxing safe response that you HAVE to give Kendrick the W on the subliminals. Everyone was disappointed. But at least it's better than the Jay Z situation, I don't think Drake ever responded.

Draft Day? Just hits no misses that's for the married folks? He actually won that battle as far as weak subliminals go.

IllmaticHandler · Post #823 » by **IllmaticHandler** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 4:04 pm

1992 your in the minority. Kendrick was on some Hip Hop **** all day. He called cats out. It did not take rocket science to figure it out. The only ones who really understood it was the NY MC's and Meek. Even cassidy got busy. The majority of the cats he called out, took the bitch route and did not respond. Kendrick was blunt about what he was saying. I did not even like when Kendrick tried to call NY out, but I understood what was happening. Hip Hop is competitive...not this freindly smiley happy ****.

Knicksfan1992 · Post #824 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 4:12 pm

Yeah I know i'm in the minority it wasn't even exactly what Kendrick said that turned me off. More about the reaction to it. Like Kendrick was some sort of god for it nah... And people clowned Meek for responding and I thought that was stupid.

KingofNYC30 · Post #825 » by **KingofNYC30** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 4:24 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Yeah I know i'm in the minority it wasn't even exactly what Kendrick said that turned me off. More about the reaction to it. Like Kendrick was some sort of god for it nah... And people clowned Meek for responding and I thought that was stupid.

Kendrick is the Nas of this generation. Point blank period..

Post #826 » by **kane2021** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 4:40 pm

KingofNYC30 wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:Yeah I know i'm in the minority it wasn't even exactly what Kendrick said that turned me off. More about the reaction to it. Like Kendrick was some sort of god for it nah... And people clowned Meek for responding and I thought that was stupid.

Kendrick is the Nas of this generation. Point blank period..

No way. Nas was a New Yorker. Have some east side pride man.

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IllmaticHandler · Post #827 » by **IllmaticHandler** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 4:45 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Yeah I know i'm in the minority it wasn't even exactly what Kendrick said that turned me off. More about the reaction to it. Like Kendrick was some sort of god for it nah... And people clowned Meek for responding and I thought that was stupid.

we agree he was not a god for it. There was dick ride supreme for it...but like I said I understood what he was doing.

E-Balla · Post #828 » by **E-Balla** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:01 pm

kane2021 wrote:
KingofNYC30 wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:Yeah I know i'm in the minority it wasn't even exactly what Kendrick said that turned me off. More about the reaction to it. Like Kendrick was some sort of god for it nah... And people clowned Meek for responding and I thought that was stupid.

Kendrick is the Nas of this generation. Point blank period..

No way. Nas was a New Yorker. Have some east side pride man.

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Man east side pride went away the second ASAP had to jock Texas to even be put on. NY radio messed up hiring clowns like Ebro and out of towners now NY artists get nooo play. I remember being happy to hit the north when driving from Atlanta because I didn't have to hear the same 10 bamas all day long but that doesn't even happen anymore (Outside of trash ass Fetty).

Post #829 » by **j4remi** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:06 pm

E-Balla wrote:
j4remi wrote:
It was such a slap boxing safe response that you HAVE to give Kendrick the W on the subliminals. Everyone was disappointed. But at least it's better than the Jay Z situation, I don't think Drake ever responded.

Draft Day? Just hits no misses that's for the married folks? He actually won that battle as far as weak subliminals go.

Forgot about that one. Jay stays losing subliminal battles, Joe crushed him.

P.S. Imagine someone accepting this challenge and a serious event going down?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-tzs_zSxkg[/youtube]

E-Balla · Post #830 » by **E-Balla** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:09 pm

j4remi wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
j4remi wrote:
It was such a slap boxing safe response that you HAVE to give Kendrick the W on the subliminals. Everyone was disappointed. But at least it's better than the Jay Z situation, I don't think Drake ever responded.

Draft Day? Just hits no misses that's for the married folks? He actually won that battle as far as weak subliminals go.

Forgot about that one. Jay stays losing subliminal battles, Joe crushed him.

P.S. Imagine someone accepting this challenge and a serious event going down?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-tzs_zSxkg[/youtube]

Jay won the battles that matter though. Prodigy was out there looking like a clown, Dame got killed, and I know most don't agree with me but he got Nas too.

And no one is going at Def. He's a comedian not a rapper...

Post #831 » by **kane2021** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:23 pm

E-Balla wrote:
kane2021 wrote:
KingofNYC30 wrote:
Kendrick is the Nas of this generation. Point blank period..

No way. Nas was a New Yorker. Have some east side pride man.

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Man east side pride went away the second ASAP had to jock Texas to even be put on. NY radio messed up hiring clowns like Ebro and out of towners now NY artists get nooo play. I remember being happy to hit the north when driving from Atlanta because I didn't have to hear the same 10 bamas all day long but that doesn't even happen anymore (Outside of trash ass Fetty).

In NC theres like 9 joints that play on the radio and they all sound the same. I cant stand it and its really ruined the music for me. I get pissed when I hear a NY rapper spitting with that south style.

15 years ago I was upset that Bronx dudes wasnt getting chances off the strength like some of the other weak rappers that were getting put on just cause of who they know. I felt like,... if you going to have weak or so so rappers out there wasting budgets,... give some kids from the Bronx a shot. Was still good emcees on the streets. It pissed me off that the birth place of hip hop wasnt getting no shine while,.. average acts from other boroughs and even other states got a record and a video getting play.

So I feel what you saying. Its like NY dont even have a sound anymore. Do you know how bad it pisses me off that French is out the South Bronx and sounds like he's from Tennessee or some ****?

Rap is run by the velvet mafia. Turning these dudes out on some gay domination to give them a shot at stardom. They are cookie cutter acts told to sound a certain way to fit a trend to make money. I know it sounds crazy but look into it. When dudes speak on it, they end up broke or dead. And its been a poorly kept secret for decades. I heard they based in the ATL too.

New York needs another Wu Tang type movement. A group of independent dudes that got their own NY born flavor that dont care about what the industry tells folks to sound like. Just bum rush the game. Call me territorial. I just feel like respect is due to the earth the seed was planted in.

Fury · Post #832 » by **Fury** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:30 pm

E-Balla wrote:
And no one is going at Def. He's a comedian not a rapper...

I agree that he's joking there but what

Knicksfan1992 · Post #833 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:33 pm

Fury wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
And no one is going at Def. He's a comedian not a rapper...

I agree that he's joking there but what

Lupe just accepted.

E-Balla · Post #834 » by **E-Balla** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:40 pm

kane2021 wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
kane2021 wrote:No way. Nas was a New Yorker. Have some east side pride man.

Sent from my SGH-T999L using RealGM Forums mobile app

Man east side pride went away the second ASAP had to jock Texas to even be put on. NY radio messed up hiring clowns like Ebro and out of towners now NY artists get nooo play. I remember being happy to hit the north when driving from Atlanta because I didn't have to hear the same 10 bamas all day long but that doesn't even happen anymore (Outside of trash ass Fetty).

In NC theres like 9 joints that play on the radio and they all sound the same. I cant stand it and its really ruined the music for me. I get pissed when I hear a NY rapper spitting with that south style.

15 years ago I was upset that Bronx dudes wasnt getting chances off the strength like some of the other weak rappers that were getting put on just cause of who they know. I felt like,... if you going to have weak or so so rappers out there wasting budgets,... give some kids from the Bronx a shot. Was still good emcees on the streets. It pissed me off that the birth place of hip hop wasnt getting no shine while,.. average acts from other boroughs and even other states got a record and a video getting play.

So I feel what you saying. Its like NY dont even have a sound anymore. Do you know how bad it pisses me off that French is out the South Bronx and sounds like he's from Tennessee or some ****?

Rap is run by the velvet mafia. Turning these dudes out on some gay domination to give them a shot at stardom. They are cookie cutter acts told to sound a certain way to fit a trend to make money. I know it sounds crazy but look into it. When dudes speak on it, they end up broke or dead. And its been a poorly kept secret for decades. I heard they based in the ATL too.

New York needs another Wu Tang type movement. A group of independent dudes that got their own NY born flavor that dont care about what the industry tells folks to sound like. Just bum rush the game. Call me territorial. I just feel like respect is due to the earth the seed was planted in.

Oh yeah even the southern rappers that don't have that style can't get any play. I mean Key! is a major artist in Atlanta and it's a fact that he's penned some of the big songs to make it out of the A recently but he'll never get put on because of his type of music. OG Maco speaks all the time about how his one big song is probably the dumbest song he's ever made. Personally I hated Roscoe (I know him and he's cool but his music is trash) and early Future (he's been on a hit streak for a minute now) but now that's all that's on the radio.

And they've already tried to push a Wu-Tang movement but they can't because nobody will play them. It's 2015 people listen to only what's on the radio and even if these dudes can tour (and they have) they can't blow up without NY radio behind them because no other state is gonna help. All those BK dudes in the Beast Coast Movement are on fire and there's a ton of them constantly making great music. Joey, Chuck, CJ, Phony Ppl (Mostly Dyme-A-Duzin but it's like 12 of them total), Dash & AK (who FlyLo had to put on of course because NY hates NY emcees), Darko, Eric Ark, Zombie Juice (who all needed the ASAP crew to even get on)... There's great NY music out there to be played on the radio even ignoring the street dudes like Dave East and Nino Man but none of them can get any play outside of Sway's show in NY...

E-Balla · Post #835 » by **E-Balla** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:41 pm

Fury wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
And no one is going at Def. He's a comedian not a rapper...

I agree that he's joking there but what

Yesterday Mos just did his first ever stand up set at a comedy club. Heard it was good too.

Post #836 » by **j4remi** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:45 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
Lupe just accepted.

Never give Lupe an excuse...but Mos name dropped Los, so I could see this shifting to Lupe vs King Los...and I'd love that too. :nod:

LupeFiascoInstagram wrote:If Mos wanna battle, he can get a whiff of the wrath
And Im behind all these bars. Dont need to tap Miller for some genuine drafts.

Knicksfan1992 · Post #837 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:50 pm

j4remi wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:
Lupe just accepted.

Never give Lupe an excuse...but Mos name dropped Los, so I could see this shifting to Lupe vs King Los...and I'd love that too.

LupeFiascoInstagram wrote:If Mos wanna battle, he can get a whiff of the wrath
And Im behind all these bars. Dont need to tap Miller for some genuine drafts.

The double entendres in that one sentence. Oh lord...

Post #838 » by **j4remi** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:55 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:
Lupe just accepted.

Never give Lupe an excuse...but Mos name dropped Los, so I could see this shifting to Lupe vs King Los...and I'd love that too.

LupeFiascoInstagram wrote:If Mos wanna battle, he can get a whiff of the wrath
And Im behind all these bars. Dont need to tap Miller for some genuine drafts.

The double entendres in that one sentence. Oh lord...

Forreal! He backhands Drake for the hell of it :lol:

Lupe been the king of the double meanings since the Farenheit Tapes. I still think the word play on this one is some next level ish...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cba9HBixgiA[/youtube]

KnickswiththeKnack · Post #839 » by **KnickswiththeKnack** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 5:59 pm

E-Balla wrote:
kane2021 wrote:
E-Balla wrote:Man east side pride went away the second ASAP had to jock Texas to even be put on. NY radio messed up hiring clowns like Ebro and out of towners now NY artists get nooo play. I remember being happy to hit the north when driving from Atlanta because I didn't have to hear the same 10 bamas all day long but that doesn't even happen anymore (Outside of trash ass Fetty).

In NC theres like 9 joints that play on the radio and they all sound the same. I cant stand it and its really ruined the music for me. I get pissed when I hear a NY rapper spitting with that south style.

15 years ago I was upset that Bronx dudes wasnt getting chances off the strength like some of the other weak rappers that were getting put on just cause of who they know. I felt like,... if you going to have weak or so so rappers out there wasting budgets,... give some kids from the Bronx a shot. Was still good emcees on the streets. It pissed me off that the birth place of hip hop wasnt getting no shine while,.. average acts from other boroughs and even other states got a record and a video getting play.

So I feel what you saying. Its like NY dont even have a sound anymore. Do you know how bad it pisses me off that French is out the South Bronx and sounds like he's from Tennessee or some ****?

Rap is run by the velvet mafia. Turning these dudes out on some gay domination to give them a shot at stardom. They are cookie cutter acts told to sound a certain way to fit a trend to make money. I know it sounds crazy but look into it. When dudes speak on it, they end up broke or dead. And its been a poorly kept secret for decades. I heard they based in the ATL too.

New York needs another Wu Tang type movement. A group of independent dudes that got their own NY born flavor that dont care about what the industry tells folks to sound like. Just bum rush the game. Call me territorial. I just feel like respect is due to the earth the seed was planted in.

Oh yeah even the southern rappers that don't have that style can't get any play. I mean Key! is a major artist in Atlanta and it's a fact that he's penned some of the big songs to make it out of the A recently but he'll never get put on because of his type of music. OG Maco speaks all the time about how his one big song is probably the dumbest song he's ever made. Personally I hated Roscoe (I know him and he's cool but his music is trash) and early Future (he's been on a hit streak for a minute now) but now that's all that's on the radio.

And they've already tried to push a Wu-Tang movement but they can't because nobody will play them. It's 2015 people listen to only what's on the radio and even if these dudes can tour (and they have) they can't blow up without NY radio behind them because no other state is gonna help. All those BK dudes in the Beast Coast Movement are on fire and there's a ton of them constantly making great music. Joey, Chuck, CJ, Phony Ppl (Mostly Dyme-A-Duzin but it's like 12 of them total), Dash & AK (who FlyLo had to put on of course because NY hates NY emcees), Darko, Eric Ark, Zombie Juice (who all needed the ASAP crew to even get on)... There's great NY music out there to be played on the radio even ignoring the street dudes like Dave East and Nino Man but none of them can get any play outside of Sway's show in NY...

I was gonna say the same thing about Pro Era, they were kinda doing it. But it's always been hard to have a movement like that in a city like NY or LA etc. Everybody's got their own ideas & distractions. Must be even harder these days with the internet to distract you.

Odd Future were doing something like that in LA what like 5 years ago? Then Tyler & Earl jumped out in front and as a unit now they've lost a lot of momentum. But I guess in the greater scheme of things their 3-4 year run is still noteworthy.

All that said I do agree with Kane, NY needs to unify and take back their own airwaves. A group of people need to come together with their own style & say "we don't care what happens outside of NY, we just want the 5 boroughs to be bumpin' our s***". The world will soon follow. But kids can't see that, they wanna go straight from Queensbridge to the world.

E-Balla · Post #840 » by **E-Balla** » Fri Aug 7, 2015 6:01 pm

j4remi wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Never give Lupe an excuse...but Mos name dropped Los, so I could see this shifting to Lupe vs King Los...and I'd love that too.

The double entendres in that one sentence. Oh lord...

Forreal! He backhands Drake for the hell of it Lupe been the king of the double meanings since the Farenheit Tapes. I still think the word play on this one is some next level ish...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cba9HBixgiA[/youtube]

Enemy Of The State... Back when I was happy for the release of Lasers thinking it was going to sound like Go To Sleep...

Lupe was the best in the game from like 07-09/10 IMO. I mean Dumb It Down might be the GOAT written song. Like on paper you can't beat it. Not my favorite from mixtape Lu (that has to be Lupe Tha Killa) but the punchlines are crazy:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyuLLhP9CPc[/youtube]
"Until I'm a V-12 Sixer I'm a hundred and thirty round Clipper/
As if I was Elton Brand, but I will never leave Chicago"