OT: Derrick Rose accused of rape.

[Moose]

Derrick Rose is accused of the very thing Bill Cosby is and yet we have people immediately coming to his defense where Cosby was never given the benefit of the doubt. When you can admit you intentionally glossed over that fact to support adolescent group think while injecting smarmy nonsense then I will "admit" that I am cool with rape.

What in the hell are you talking about?

If they were dating, it can't be rape, right?

They about to ruin this guys career for something his accuser did not press charges for when it happened?
She dated him 2-3 years and did all of that stuff?

Even if he didn't do it this will stay with him for the rest of his career and all of those endorsements will be gone too. That being said if the Bulls were some how able to release him, I'm just saying we do have cap space

Could anyone actually be this stupid? I think they have to check their phone records to see if anything was mentioned by either person around the time it was alleged to happen.

It shows, when you have money be careful. She's lying, straight off the bat. This is what these hoes...do. You must look at ROse's character. So many things are considered rape that shouldn't. I read stories about feminists trying to pass laws about, if a man lies about name, again, income, job, living life...ect or you have regrets about sleeping with a man, you can claim it is rape.


Rape laws change all the time, so maybe 10 years from now, looking at a woman, and thinking of having sex will be rape.

Anyhow, be careful men, keep it in your pants if you even think, B!tch maybe craaaazZY! All it takes is some saved sperm or a false accusation and you will be in jail, no proof.

this convoluted story is painting this man as beyond thirsty but....really just sounds like a concocted extortion attempt.

This isn't the part I was referring to.

People defended (or simply ignored it) Cosby for years. These allegations were a thing back then. They were brought up again by a comic and ignited a fire.

Even before all the other women came out, people didn't necessarily believe the first woman that did.

People are always going to be skeptical, especially men. Not to mention when it involves a person of wealth and the accuser doesn't take the proper action. In this case, she dated this man for a significant amount of time and waited two years to come forth with a civil suit. I think people here have the right to be skeptic. But crazy, unthinkable things happen, so we must now wait.

We will see what evidence follows. The story is obviously troubling and rather shocking.

[HarthorneWingo]

What in the hell are you talking about?

If they were dating, it can't be rape, right?

They about to ruin this guys career for something his accuser did not press charges for when it happened?
She dated him 2-3 years and did all of that stuff?

Even if he didn't do it this will stay with him for the rest of his career and all of those endorsements will be gone too. That being said if the Bulls were some how able to release him, I'm just saying we do have cap space

Could anyone actually be this stupid? I think they have to check their phone records to see if anything was mentioned by either person around the time it was alleged to happen.

It shows, when you have money be careful. She's lying, straight off the bat. This is what these hoes...do. You must look at ROse's character. So many things are considered rape that shouldn't. I read stories about feminists trying to pass laws about, if a man lies about name, again, income, job, living life...ect or you have regrets about sleeping with a man, you can claim it is rape.


Rape laws change all the time, so maybe 10 years from now, looking at a woman, and thinking of having sex will be rape.

Anyhow, be careful men, keep it in your pants if you even think, B!tch maybe craaaazZY! All it takes is some saved sperm or a false accusation and you will be in jail, no proof.

this convoluted story is painting this man as beyond thirsty but....really just sounds like a concocted extortion attempt.

This isn't the part I was referring to.

People defended (or simply ignored it) Cosby for years. These allegations were a thing back then. They were brought up again by a comic and ignited a fire.

Even before all the other women came out, people didn't necessarily believe the first woman that did.

People are always going to be skeptical, especially men. Not to mention when it involves a person of wealth and the accuser doesn't take the proper action. In this case, she dated this man for a significant amount of time and waited two years to come forth with a civil suit. I think people here have the right to be skeptic. But crazy, unthinkable things happen, so we must now wait.

We will see what evidence follows. The story is obviously troubling and rather shocking.

Yeah, but she must've complained to the police who investigated and chose not to file any charges, which does not necessarily mean that it didn't happen, but it's an indication nonetheless. Did she even go to the police? Did the police investigate? I'd like to know a little more about that aspect of the case.

[coopnyc74]

Who knows what happened but if one is going to make a lie up out of thin air and accuse someone of something so terrible and serious why make up such a detailed and convoluted story that includes multiple offenders. Usually in cases where stories of crimes are made up the victim just points the finger at one party. I tend to lean in the direction of where there is smoke there is fire on this one until proven otherwise.

[Meat]

Rose getting the Cosby treatment.

how so?

[Dr. Detfink]

Vindicated. I called Derrick Rose, the next Allen Iverson. A talented, selfish young man with impulsive brwhoii. A coach killer. No chance of getting a ring.

[Meat]

So now you get to make the rules of hypocrisy? So only if MORE women come out, not the fact that a woman has accused a high profile celebrity of drugging them and raping them, is it worthy of scrutiny? Got it! We have to wait for more women to make the claim before it's plausable!

More women = credibility
1 woman = shennanigans

No relation = credibility
Close relation = shennanigans

So, to recap:

After going backstage in the late 70's, women claim they were drugged and raped decades later and that is unexpected and undeniable!!!

After a few years dating a woman claims she was raped within the last 3 years and you consider it a farce.

Fair enough.

Bill Cosby is a serial rapist. Just admit you're cool with rape already and move on.

Derrick Rose is accused of the very thing Bill Cosby is and yet we have people immediately coming to his defense where Cosby was never given the benefit of the doubt. When you can admit you intentionally glossed over that fact to support adolescent group think while injecting smarmy nonsense then I will "admit" that I am cool with rape.

why would anyone give cosby the benefit of the doubt when cosby admitted himself to drugging women?

[BKlutch]

Bill Cosby is a serial rapist. Just admit you're cool with rape already and move on.

Derrick Rose is accused of the very thing Bill Cosby is and yet we have people immediately coming to his defense where Cosby was never given the benefit of the doubt. When you can admit you intentionally glossed over that fact to support adolescent group think while injecting smarmy nonsense then I will "admit" that I am cool with rape.

why would anyone give cosby the benefit of the doubt when cosby admitted himself to drugging women?

People just can't easily wrap their heads around the idea that the guy they idolized almost their whole lives is not only not as good as he seemed, but is actually a criminal or rapist. The evidence seems irrefutable.

[DrCoach]

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

I didnt say that!

Mods can we correct this?

[BKlutch]

DrCoach wrote:
If they were dating, it can't be rape, right?

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

I didnt say that!

Mods can we correct this?

True, you did NOT say that. It was from somebody else's post in message #25, and the entire post shows it was meant totally sarcastically. I hope the mods can fix this, as you had nothing to do with this.

[mpharris36]

[GONYK]

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

I didnt say that!

Mods can we correct this?

Fixed

[H_20]

Her story seems far-fetched, butt I'll reserve judgement until more facts are presented,

Sounds like bs to me but you never know really.

[GONYK]

Bill Cosby is a serial rapist. Just admit you're cool with rape already and move on.

Derrick Rose is accused of the very thing Bill Cosby is and yet we have people immediately coming to his defense where Cosby was never given the benefit of the doubt. When you can admit you intentionally glossed over that fact to support adolescent group think while injecting smarmy nonsense then I will "admit" that I am cool with rape.

why would anyone give cosby the benefit of the doubt when cosby admitted himself to drugging women?

[NoLayupRule]

these things do happen. I remember the hot Borg chick from Star Trek Voyager divorced her husband who was some politician for forcing her to engage in public sex or some weird crap

but then again the opposite happens. There are women out there looking to entrap and exploit and ruin men.


Unlike Cosby this is the only allegation Ive heard of.

Ill hold judgment until there is more fire than smoke

[Bklyn&company]

So while he was into all this "weird" sexually behavior that actually has nothing to do with the alleged "rape" why did she continued to date him? Also two years after the alleged "rape" she comes out and says something about it....

I'm not saying I don't believe her but like mostly of the Bill Cosby women why do they keep hanging around these so call "suspect dudes" especially the ones with history...truth is they want something and if they don't get it... then comes the letting out of secrets etc....they really need to stop introducing themselves into vulnerable situations....... they really think going to these celebrities hotel rooms and houses.. 2 am in the morning and no dude is going to try to "f*ck" don't they know they are straight booty call... if you don't feel safe leave... anything force is wrong.. but you must protect yourself. Stop putting your as* out there... period. And I bet Rose will tell you she was never his girlfriend just a "friend" with benefits.. the chick that always hangs around with the "homies". In her mind she thinks she is a potential girlfriend but really know what it is. That's why he was sleeping with strangers... thats common sense. She is not his girlfriend....I personally had a few, and personally know a few ladies that have slept/hang out/party with/travel with/travel to (their plane ticket purchase by a).. "Paul George baby mama" etc....with alot of football, basketball, baseball player and celebrities. Alot of them married with kids. These ladies attend events, parties or become part of the "crew". An Example... like a fake personal assist or stylist etc... and actually try to "caught" celebrities... they have told me this out of their own mouths.

Celebrities dudes and females need not to trust no one these days... start getting non-disclosure signed and videos of everything.... honestly when a "relationship", "friendship" or "business" is over and that money is drying up everyone is looking for a check... that's the real.

Also another thing to remember is if a rape is reported right away after "alleged" incident... a medical exam is performed and a police report is written... some alleged victims avoid this because if something didn't really happen there will be no proof of rape (though it doesn't stop the media from making the suspect to be a rapist, Ex. Tupac, no semen, no force entry, no finger print but still went to jail)... also male suspect would immediately be arrested, could be put on trail and victim doesn't get a check. If they wait...they could easily accuse, lets of personal secrets.. Victims word vs. Celebrity, media makes celebrity out as a rapist... celebrity is worried about future business... lawyers get involved, disclosures/gag order in place, check is cut... so call "victim" shuts up. Everyone happy.

Real Sh*t.... don't get fool

[F N 11]

Cant trust no chick. know the type of woman you have around. The ho*s will always sow their a$$.

[Bklyn&company]

Derrick Rose is accused of the very thing Bill Cosby is and yet we have people immediately coming to his defense where Cosby was never given the benefit of the doubt. When you can admit you intentionally glossed over that fact to support adolescent group think while injecting smarmy nonsense then I will "admit" that I am cool with rape.

why would anyone give cosby the benefit of the doubt when cosby admitted himself to drugging women?

Also guess who else drugged women and/or their damn selves to have a more erotic sexually experience ... mostly every male and female celebrity in the 70's and 80's.... women also took drugs to numb themselves to have sexual intercourse with their "client" *cough*.... prostitutes... you really think ladies who wanted opportunities and biggers roles ... didn't go to Cosby hotel room at 2am in the morning to offer sexual favors... seriously.. the 60's, 70's, 80's were f*cking wild.

Also fact everyone's boy.. Hugh Hefner... admitted to using Quaaludes (what they called in the 70's as thigh openers) and other drugs to induce women to sleep with him. Your favorite celebrity have been drugging themselves and others for years when it comes to sex. That's why Grace Jones can talk about it and move on...

Don't get fooled people... also another fact only one allege "victim" actually accuse Cosby of rape out of the 40+ that came up from no where. Most said he try to touch them... mean on the leg, thigh, buttocks etc.. while talking and they pulled away and left. Some said they passed out, felt sleepy and woke up... feeling no different physically. They said they woke up with him watching them or just over them.... which is some creepy sh*t. Read each "victims" story. Drugs and sex is creepy but don't get fooled.

Truth.. 40 yrs out ....money is dry up.. or didn't get what you wanted from your career.. want that check to shut up because obviously they know he can't go to trial, that's the real intention.

Also only one lawyer is trying to make a case against Cosby... he represents a few of the allege "victims". No other lawyers involved, no other lawyer said its worth taking on... He too wants a check...
Facts.. say no to drugs...real sh*t... don't get fooled.

[Greenie]

I'll wait for some evidence. Like I said before she had me until the break in part of her story. I would hope a person would not make up a story like this.


Funny thing about all of this is the fact that Derrick has a girlfriend and has had the same girl since he stepped foot in the NBA. They have a kid and the whole 9. So running in these streets when he should of had his ass at home with his woman got his ass in this mess. These men never learn.

[BBALLER4FR]

why would anyone give cosby the benefit of the doubt when cosby admitted himself to drugging women?

Also guess who else drugged women and/or their damn selves to have a more erotic sexually experience ... mostly every male and female celebrity in the 70's and 80's.... women also took drugs to numb themselves to have sexual intercourse with their "client" *cough*.... prostitutes... you really think ladies who wanted opportunities and biggers roles ... didn't go to Cosby hotel room at 2am in the morning to offer sexual favors... seriously.. the 60's, 70's, 80's were f*cking wild.

Also fact everyone's boy.. Hugh Hefner... admitted to using Quaaludes (what they called in the 70's as thigh openers) and other drugs to induce women to sleep with him. Your favorite celebrity have been drugging themselves and others for years when it comes to sex. That's why Grace Jones can talk about it and move on...

Don't get fooled people... also another fact only one allege "victim" actually accuse Cosby of rape out of the 40+ that came up from no where. Most said he try to touch them... mean on the leg, thigh, buttocks etc.. while talking and they pulled away and left. Some said they passed out, felt sleepy and woke up... feeling no different physically. Read each "victims" story. Drugs and sex is creepy but don't get fooled. Truth.. 40 yrs out ....money is dry up.. or didn't get what you wanted from your career.. want that check to shut up because obviously they know he can't go to trial, o but that's not the real intention. Facts.. real sh*t... don't get fooled.

[moocow007]

Who knows what happened but if one is going to make a lie up out of thin air and accuse someone of something so terrible and serious why make up such a detailed and convoluted story that includes multiple offenders. Usually in cases where stories of crimes are made up the victim just points the finger at one party. I tend to lean in the direction of where there is smoke there is fire on this one until proven otherwise.

Asked the same thing about this famous case...and this turned out to be a big fat lie.



Not saying that Rose didn't do it and/or that the girl is lying, but people do things that they shouldn't do for a lot of reasons.

Speaking of odd things that folks accuse other people of...

I was watching 20/20 last night about a case about something called FC (Facilitated Communication) where a facilitator helps people with severe autism communicate via keyboard by "helping" to guide their hand as they typed what they 'supposedly' wanted to say. One facilitator actually "guided" an autistic girl to accuse her dad of molestation (by guiding her hand while the autistic girl typed out long and detailed accusations) even though they proved in court that it couldn't possibly have been the girls thoughts since she couldn't even recognize which letters were which in the alphabet (think about it). In fact an expert that the family hired actually showed video proof where both facilitator and autistic person they were helping were showed different pictures separately (facilitator was shown a picture of a horse and the autistic person a picture of a banana) that the resulting image that the autistic person "typed" out was the picture that the facilitator saw ("horse") and NOT the picture that was shown to the autistic person.

Folks should not be jumping to conclusions without letting the facts play out.