OT: Derrick Rose accused of rape.

[GONYK]

Also guess who else drugged women and/or their damn selves to have a more erotic sexually experience ... mostly every male and female celebrity in the 70's and 80's.... women also took drugs to numb themselves to have sexual intercourse with their "client" *cough*.... prostitutes... you really think ladies who wanted opportunities and biggers roles ... didn't go to Cosby hotel room at 2am in the morning to offer sexual favors... seriously.. the 60's, 70's, 80's were f*cking wild.

Also fact everyone's boy.. Hugh Hefner... admitted to using Quaaludes (what they called in the 70's as thigh openers) and other drugs to induce women to sleep with him. Your favorite celebrity have been drugging themselves and others for years when it comes to sex. That's why Grace Jones can talk about it and move on...

Don't get fooled people... also another fact only one allege "victim" actually accuse Cosby of rape out of the 40+ that came up from no where. Most said he try to touch them... mean on the leg, thigh, buttocks etc.. while talking and they pulled away and left. Some said they passed out, felt sleepy and woke up... feeling no different physically. Read each "victims" story. Drugs and sex is creepy but don't get fooled. Truth.. 40 yrs out ....money is dry up.. or didn't get what you wanted from your career.. want that check to shut up because obviously they know he can't go to trial, o but that's not the real intention. Facts.. real sh*t... don't get fooled.

The majority of them are accusing him of sexual assault. If you want make that a lesser crime not worthy of consideration, that is your prerogative.

Until 35+ women come out against another one of these wild, drug-loving, nameless celebrities from the 70's, generalizing a crime onto a broad population of people doesn't really resonate with me.

[coopnyc74]

Who knows what happened but if one is going to make a lie up out of thin air and accuse someone of something so terrible and serious why make up such a detailed and convoluted story that includes multiple offenders. Usually in cases where stories of crimes are made up the victim just points the finger at one party. I tend to lean in the direction of where there is smoke there is fire on this one until proven otherwise.

Asked the same thing about this famous case...and this turned out to be a big fat lie.



Not saying that Rose didn't do it and/or that the girl is lying, but people do things that they shouldn't do for a lot of reasons.

Speaking of odd things that folks accuse other people of...

I was watching 20/20 last night about a case about something called FC (Facilitated Communication) where a facilitator helps people with severe autism communicate via keyboard by "helping" to guide their hand as they typed what they 'supposedly' wanted to say. One facilitator actually "guided" an autistic girl to accuse her dad of molestation (by guiding her hand while the autistic girl typed out long and detailed accusations) even though they proved in court that it couldn't possibly have been the girls thoughts since she couldn't even recognize which letters were which in the alphabet (think about it). In fact an expert that the family hired actually showed video proof where both facilitator and autistic person they were helping were showed different pictures separately (facilitator was shown a picture of a horse and the autistic person a picture of a banana) that the resulting image that the autistic person "typed" out was the picture that the facilitator saw ("horse") and NOT the picture that was shown to the autistic person.

Folks should not be jumping to conclusions without letting the facts play out.

Very true and duly noted, there are always exceptions. However in a case like this it seems odd to include a friend and D Rose's manager unless she has a vendetta against them too. I would think when one is making up a story they would just accuse one other person so it is just their word against hers, just seems odd to me, but definitely we should let the facts play out.

[Bklyn&company]

Also guess who else drugged women and/or their damn selves to have a more erotic sexually experience ... mostly every male and female celebrity in the 70's and 80's.... women also took drugs to numb themselves to have sexual intercourse with their "client" *cough*.... prostitutes... you really think ladies who wanted opportunities and biggers roles ... didn't go to Cosby hotel room at 2am in the morning to offer sexual favors... seriously.. the 60's, 70's, 80's were f*cking wild.

Also fact everyone's boy.. Hugh Hefner... admitted to using Quaaludes (what they called in the 70's as thigh openers) and other drugs to induce women to sleep with him. Your favorite celebrity have been drugging themselves and others for years when it comes to sex. That's why Grace Jones can talk about it and move on...

Don't get fooled people... also another fact only one allege "victim" actually accuse Cosby of rape out of the 40+ that came up from no where. Most said he try to touch them... mean on the leg, thigh, buttocks etc.. while talking and they pulled away and left. Some said they passed out, felt sleepy and woke up... feeling no different physically. Read each "victims" story. Drugs and sex is creepy but don't get fooled. Truth.. 40 yrs out ....money is dry up.. or didn't get what you wanted from your career.. want that check to shut up because obviously they know he can't go to trial, o but that's not the real intention. Facts.. real sh*t... don't get fooled.

Almost all of them are accusing him of sexual assualt. If you want make that a lesser crime not worthy of consideration, that is your prerogative.

Until that happens to another one of these wild nameless celebrities from the 70's, generalizing a crime onto a broad population of people doesn't really resonate with me.

That's the highest charge they could get if it even goes to trial.... what their stories are is touching and drugged accusations. . Touching does fall under sexual assualt... but no one is saying rape. Read their stories... common sense ... if you are rape... why waiting 40+ years to say something... and don't give me that bullsh*t Bill Cosby is powerful they were afraid to say something.... don't get punch drink on with the media... 40+ women scared to say something. .. I called bullsh*t.. he was accuse for two in the 90's and 00's they both wanted checks got them and haven't said anything since... Bill Cosby was an idiot but these women know exactly what they were involved in with a "friendship" or "business" relations with him.

Remember when the media said he "used his celebrity to try to get women to sleep with him" and made it out to be a terrible thing. Are you fu*king kidding... every fu*king male on the planet does that... who has some type of influence. Stop drinking the media juices....

[Moose]

This isn't the part I was referring to.

People defended (or simply ignored it) Cosby for years. These allegations were a thing back then. They were brought up again by a comic and ignited a fire.

Even before all the other women came out, people didn't necessarily believe the first woman that did.

People are always going to be skeptical, especially men. Not to mention when it involves a person of wealth and the accuser doesn't take the proper action. In this case, she dated this man for a significant amount of time and waited two years to come forth with a civil suit. I think people here have the right to be skeptic. But crazy, unthinkable things happen, so we must now wait.

We will see what evidence follows. The story is obviously troubling and rather shocking.

Yeah, but she must've complained to the police who investigated and chose not to file any charges, which does not necessarily mean that it didn't happen, but it's an indication nonetheless. Did she even go to the police? Did the police investigate? I'd like to know a little more about that aspect of the case.

It is certainly an extremely disturbing story. I think people here are even rooting for it not to be true because if so, yikes.

Sports is supposed to take us away from this stuff, not drag us in it.

[Capn'O]

What's curious to me is that the accusation includes a number of instances where Rose asked her to do something kind of kinky, she refused, and then nothing came of it. It seems to weaken her story, not strengthen it. But it does drag his image around a bit.

Whether the rape incident happened or not is what is relevant and that's a question beyond my pay grade here. If there's something that can be proven, it will come out in the wash.



Either way - you reap what you sow running around town like that...

[moocow007]

What's curious to me is that the accusation includes a number of instances where Rose asked her to do something kind of kinky, she refused, and then nothing came of it. It seems to weaken her story, not strengthen it. But it does drag his image around a bit.

Whether the rape incident happened or not is what is relevant and that's a question beyond my pay grade here. If there's something that can be proven, it will come out in the wash.



Either way - you reap what you sow running around town like that...

Given how long ago it supposedly happened it will be difficult to prove unless someone comes forward and admits it. I doubt any of the guys being accused will do that. So unless there are other witnesses that are willing to come out going to be extremely hard and be just a he said, she said thing. It's just very odd why she waited this long. I understand trauma and fear, takes a lot of time getting over it, but it it what it is...the longer you wait, the more evidence washes away.

And it's one thing to be kinky, it's another to be a rapist. One doesn't lead to another. So again, let's see what comes out of this without any unnecessary assumptions.

[King of Canada]

This will be like Kobe all over again. Money will be paid, everybody will pretend that Rose isn't an idiot, and then we'll move on. There are so many stories in pro sports like this that it kind of doesn't mean anything anymore. The players involved and the women who pursue them all have questionable character.

[E-Balla]

whoa wait a second... rose drugged her and she escaped and then rose and friends broke into her house and "gang raped her" ahhh that seems a bitch far fetched

Agreed. The same night? Clearly made up. Everyone knows it takes Rose much longer than that to come back.

Easily the best post in NYK Board history.

[Dirkbaka]

This sounds like she wants to get paid. We will see how this plays out but I am sure this will blow over when she gets her millions.

[Capn'O]

What's curious to me is that the accusation includes a number of instances where Rose asked her to do something kind of kinky, she refused, and then nothing came of it. It seems to weaken her story, not strengthen it. But it does drag his image around a bit.

Whether the rape incident happened or not is what is relevant and that's a question beyond my pay grade here. If there's something that can be proven, it will come out in the wash.



Either way - you reap what you sow running around town like that...

Given how long ago it supposedly happened it will be difficult to prove unless someone comes forward and admits it. I doubt any of the guys being accused will do that. So unless there are other witnesses that are willing to come out going to be extremely hard and be just a he said, she said thing. It's just very odd why she waited this long. I understand trauma and fear, takes a lot of time getting over it, but it it what it is...the longer you wait, the more evidence washes away.

And it's one thing to be kinky, it's another to be a rapist. One doesn't lead to another. So again, let's see what comes out of this without any unnecessary assumptions.

Correct. That's what I'm getting at. I.e. the additional stories contradict the rape accusations because as they were told he allegedly requested kinky things, was rejected, and no further action was taken. They're irrelevant at best, damaging to the claim at worst, but do make him "look bad" in public.

[K_ick_God]

whoa wait a second... rose drugged her and she escaped and then rose and friends broke into her house and "gang raped her" ahhh that seems a bitch far fetched

Agreed. The same night? Clearly made up. Everyone knows it takes Rose much longer than that to come back.

Did you get a notification for all 20+ And-1s? (Real question, since that feature was just rewritten and added live.)

[kane2021]

Its not a criminal matter its a civil suit. Her word against his and in civil matters its usually about whos more convincing. She has a friend to testify to picking her up from his house and the condition she was in. Thats probably going to be enough to prove wrong doing. And a lawyer dont usually take and file a civil case like this unless he is confident he can receive compensation.

Rose's lawyer can say what ever he wants. Rose is in a lose lose situation. Pointing out the woman has tried 3 times to sue aint much of a defense. Neither is saying she is lying. He is going to have to buy his way out. And rest assured there is other women that know Rose like that, seeing this news too. Dragging his boys into puts pressure on Rose to keep it quiet. My guess is they buy her off to drop the case with a gag order attached.

I dont feel sorry for this dude. While im not sure I buy her whole story, .... I would assume chances are this woman was out for more than just being a sex toy and Rose knew that. But chose to play off of that to get her do things she really wasnt with.

Women can be vindictive, spiteful and vengeful. But in all honesty, these feelings are rarely random. If you keep it real with a woman she is going to appreciate that even if she ends up disappointed. Its something she will respect. If you play with her feelings in a way to take advantage of her she'll get you. Then some women are just crazy. But as a man you can recognize that. Be smart.

[SelbyCobra]

whoa wait a second... rose drugged her and she escaped and then rose and friends broke into her house and "gang raped her" ahhh that seems a bitch far fetched

Agreed. The same night? Clearly made up. Everyone knows it takes Rose much longer than that to come back.

Did you get a notification for all 20+ And-1s? (Real question, since that feature was just rewritten and added live.)

Sure did. I logged on like, "oh sh*t, what the hell happened?"

[Greenie]

What's curious to me is that the accusation includes a number of instances where Rose asked her to do something kind of kinky, she refused, and then nothing came of it. It seems to weaken her story, not strengthen it. But it does drag his image around a bit.

Whether the rape incident happened or not is what is relevant and that's a question beyond my pay grade here. If there's something that can be proven, it will come out in the wash.



Either way - you reap what you sow running around town like that...

Funny thing is he's gonna expect her to be loyal and stand by his side and support him in his time of need.

[Thorn]

whoa wait a second... rose drugged her and she escaped and then rose and friends broke into her house and "gang raped her" ahhh that seems a bitch far fetched

Agreed. The same night? Clearly made up. Everyone knows it takes Rose much longer than that to come back.

That had to leave a mark.

[Ignitowsky]

Derrick Rose is accused of the very thing Bill Cosby is and yet we have people immediately coming to his defense where Cosby was never given the benefit of the doubt. When you can admit you intentionally glossed over that fact to support adolescent group think while injecting smarmy nonsense then I will "admit" that I am cool with rape.

why would anyone give cosby the benefit of the doubt when cosby admitted himself to drugging women?

Oh you didn't hear? Cosby didn't drug women. He just made drugs available to them and then took advantage of them when they chose to take them of their own volition. Some people on this forum actually believe that and don't see anything wrong with it.

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[Capn'O]

whoa wait a second... rose drugged her and she escaped and then rose and friends broke into her house and "gang raped her" ahhh that seems a bitch far fetched

Agreed. The same night? Clearly made up. Everyone knows it takes Rose much longer than that to come back.

Did you get a notification for all 20+ And-1s? (Real question, since that feature was just rewritten and added live.)

Yes - each And1 gets its own notification, even for the same post. It's a little much but it is nice to have that notification back.

[K_ick_God]

Agreed. The same night? Clearly made up. Everyone knows it takes Rose much longer than that to come back.

Did you get a notification for all 20+ And-1s? (Real question, since that feature was just rewritten and added live.)

Yes - each And1 gets its own notification, even for the same post. It's a little much but it is nice to have that notification back.

Personally I didn't like how it used to lump together And-1s. This is longer but more specific and better info for the user on his or her dash.

[Capn'O]

Did you get a notification for all 20+ And-1s? (Real question, since that feature was just rewritten and added live.)

Yes - each And1 gets its own notification, even for the same post. It's a little much but it is nice to have that notification back.

Personally I didn't like how it used to lump together And-1s. This is longer but more specific and better info for the user on his or her dash.

Ah - it's a feature, not a bug As you were then.

[NYKAL]

I don't believe that Rose Bill Cosbied someone.