OT: Art, Music, Literature, Media, and More! Part 1

[truth18]

**** everything about Drake.

And pretty much everything about modern "hip hop".

[KGboss]

**** everything about Drake.

And pretty much everything about modern "hip hop".

Can you expand on why you hate modern hip-hop so much?

The natural evolution of human art dictates that nothing stays the same, but also that it does because theres only so many ways you can express the same feelings.

I see a lot of good artists out there today. Not all are as terrible as lil wayne of the last 6 years or so.

Interested as to why you dislike it so much.

[truth18]

**** everything about Drake.

And pretty much everything about modern "hip hop".

Can you expand on why you hate modern hip-hop so much?

The natural evolution of human art dictates that nothing stays the same, but also that it does because theres only so many ways you can express the same feelings.

I see a lot of good artists out there today. Not all are as terrible as lil wayne of the last 6 years or so.

Interested as to why you dislike it so much.

Production sucks. Lyrics/verses blow. Flow is completely wack. Its basically pop music with some people talking. The Message is sorely needed again right now.

Show me a decent popular artist that isn't Kendrick or Wale. Not even going to think about it, but there is probably no one.

You have to hit up the underground scene for anything decent and I don't have the time to research that stuff like I once did.

Art changes, and that's fine, but this is for the worse imo. The whole industry in general (popular music) seems quite ****.

90s/very early 2000s were great. Its all been downhill since then imo.

But, opinions and all

[Pacino62]

**** everything about Drake.

And pretty much everything about modern "hip hop".

Can you expand on why you hate modern hip-hop so much?

The natural evolution of human art dictates that nothing stays the same, but also that it does because theres only so many ways you can express the same feelings.

I see a lot of good artists out there today. Not all are as terrible as lil wayne of the last 6 years or so.

Interested as to why you dislike it so much.

I am speak on behalf of myself, as I can't stand most modern hip hop. Most (Lamar, J Cole and a few others not included) is over commercialized and over produced garbage. There's no focus on telling a story, which is what hip hop at its core was. Lyrics. I miss how raw it used to be.

[KGboss]

Did you grow up when the 90's and 2000's were the "go to"?

[truth18]

Did you grow up when the 90's and 2000's were the "go to"?

Nah, I'm 27.

[KGboss]

**** everything about Drake.

And pretty much everything about modern "hip hop".

Can you expand on why you hate modern hip-hop so much?

The natural evolution of human art dictates that nothing stays the same, but also that it does because theres only so many ways you can express the same feelings.

I see a lot of good artists out there today. Not all are as terrible as lil wayne of the last 6 years or so.

Interested as to why you dislike it so much.

I am speak on behalf of myself, as I can't stand most modern hip hop. Most (Lamar, J Cole and a few others not included) is over commercialized and over produced garbage. There's no focus on telling a story, which is what hip hop at its core was. Lyrics. I miss how raw it used to be.

Yah but that stuff on the radio isnt hip-hop, its pop. When you have Rihanna singing over every hook, or got guys like trash ass Kanye using auto tune and distorted beats on every song, yah that's ****

Thats why i like guys like Tech n9ne....busta rhymes is still killing it these days...theres a lot of good music out there today if you get beyond the commercial dudes.

Someone dropped a slaughterhouse name drop the last page. Those dudes are all good. Budden, Royce. Method Man dropped some new **** recently too, still dope.

[truth18]

Is Slaughterhouse REALLY that good though? Is Run the Jewels really that good? Ghost released some decent **** last year as well, I'll have to check the new Method. Still, none of this stuff is anywhere near "classic". OBFCL2 was actually decent.

Busta Rhymes is absolutely awful now imo. A complete shell of himself musically. Tech n9ne is alright, yeah.

But **** is moving in a bad direction, it will be hard to find good new projects soon as everything is moving towards a complete pop sound, even some underground stuff.

Doom says Hip Hop is dead (I guess Nas did too, lol), I agree. But maybe we can bring it back.

I blame Dre and Jay. Kanye to a lesser degree. At least he is a real artist (and I hate all of his albums post College Dropout, which was dope).

[bucknersrevenge]

I'm into rap but as someone else said previously, not as much into a lot of the modern hip-hop I'm hearing lately. Mostly into golden age(circa '90-'95 guys) guys. Love Slaughterhouse though. But lately though have found myself turning to the Christian hip-hop scene. Bizzle, Lecrae, GemStones, and especially Andy Mineo. Some of these guys spit way better than a lot of the commercial rappers I hear on radio stations lately runnin the same tired lines that rappers were doing 20 years ago.

Yeah? How old are you?

I like the old stuff, you know, always gotta do the hw & research, & I got some on the ipod, but it's not just my main thing you know?

Slaughterhouse is sick lol, but really I'm mainly a Budden guy with Joell being up there too. I've never heard of the guys, but I'm always down to check some out after work lol.

I also agree with the bolded. The general public that doesn't really comprehend what rappers are doing don't want lyricists on the radio. Even my fiancé, I make her bump Cole & Wale, Budden, & she likes the songs with the good melodies & **** lol.

Feel like rap is actually coming out of it's drought. I think the rap era is perfect with the NBA. The 90's were awesome. The 2000's were a down time in the game. Like JayZ was awesome, but I think he took advantage of a weak era. Now a days, mover the past couple years, there's so god damn much music that is out there, you just havta do the searching to find some good ****. So amny ppl are putting the emphasis on having real content that imo it made a nice little comeback. Same way the nba made that nice transition from the early mid 2000's of iso ugly ball on 40% fg's to this team ball movement, which is making the league in a better place.

Nas, 2Pac, BIG, Tribe Called Quest, Rakim, Wu, Mobb Deep, Pete Rock and CL, AZ, Kool G Rap, Busta (not with Tribe), Common, Jeru the Damaja, Pharcyde, Cypress Hill, Brand Nubien, Gang Starr, Digable Planets....I'm 37 and I could do this all day. That era made hip hop.

Yeah, we're in the same range. I turn 39 in three weeks. Big Tribe fan growing up. Saw them at Lollapalooza '94 Big Pete Rock & CL SMooth fan. Wore out "Bizarre Ride II..." Met Common when he did a concert at my colege back when he still had the "Sense" on the end. Great times back then man. But if you're down with that, look up this guy GemStones. I'm at work right now so I can't link it but look for a song called "Fire In My Heart" Samples Adele. You'll be like "This is what I used to listen to.

[KGboss]

Hopsin I like.

Immortal Technique is decent.

Slaughterhouse is alright, im more talking the guys in the group even on a solo basis are good lyricists.

[truth18]

Seen/met tribe as well. Tip is a **** ****.

Will check GemStones.

[exculpatory]

Me, Earl & the Dying Girl - beautifully acted & so poignant!

Amy documentary - what a freaking waste of soulful talent!

[bucknersrevenge]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWev-UJlcz4[/youtube]

I didn't think I'd be able to do it but this is the guy. Again, Christian hip-hop but if you're in my age group this guy is speaking to your heart right now. His delivery is just sick. He's lippin' it right now because it's a listening party but it's awesome.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WopyrETP-CU[/youtube]

Mineo is putting out a new album next month. IMO he's the best out there right now.

[Pacino62]

Holy sh!? Just checked out "Fire in my Heart". That song is crazy.

Anyone like Brother Ali? He's one guy I like.

[bucknersrevenge]

Holy sh!? Just checked out "Fire in my Heart". That song is crazy.

Anyone like Brother Ali? He's one guy I like.

Right?! Call a doctor that dude is sick...

[KGboss]

Ive heard that GemStones song before a few months back, liked it then and still do.

Im not into that christian stuff though. Not that its not good just never dabbled in it. Dope tho from what i heard.

Wanna know the downfall of this generation? Dudes like Wakka Flocca and Gucci Mane getting more play in my friends cars than guys that can actually annunciate and pronounce a pronoun.

Amazing.

[jmr07019]

I love that show Review on comedy central. Anybody else watch that?

Thoughts on fear the walking dead pilot? I thought it was pretty good. I fear that AMC is just going to keep making walking dead episodes as the quality of the show slowly deteriorates though. Doesn't seem like they have any plans to wrap the show up. Would be cool though if the LA people had a couple of seasons before storylines from each show merged in an epic finale. We can hope.

I REALLY enjoyed it. I'm into the dramatic aspect of a show more so than the action. So, it was right up my alley. The idea of a merge is very cool and I'm sure it's planned. Not sure how they will achieve it. Maybe a jump ahead scenario.

It was alright. Kim Dickens is **** FINE. WOW. I guess I realized that during House of Cards, but she wasn't the protagonist of that show. She is also a fantastic actress.

Her son? Not so much. I thought his performance was really weak and brought down the entire episode a notch (everyone else did the best they could with their lines imo). The scene's with his dealer/friend particularly highlighted his acting imo. Dude needs to step it up, and I think he will.

And yeah, they have confirmed several times that they will NOT merge the two shows in any way. This is for the best imo, writing starts to get muddy when you alter your vision to suit a radically different project. I read the (wildly different, but similar in its bare bones) comic, and although different characters are dead/alive in the comics and the circumstances/plot is pretty different, they still follow the same basic path (Atlanta to Prison/Govenor to Alexandria). I won't spoil anything, but merging the plots would ruin a lot of stuff.

Either way, they aren't doing that, a google search should come up with something if you take a look.

I love the Walking Dead though, so I'm happy to have the show. I highly doubt it can live up to the original though. But that's fine.

Yeah, I think review is funny as ****, JMR. New Rick and Morty season is also **** ace.

I was also a bit disappointed by the last episode of Mr. Robot, but its still a great show, albeit not as fantastic as I thought initially. Jekyl/Hyde trope is just something that is bound to reappear in media over and over. It is what it is. I still think its the best thing on TV.

And DAMN, my huge post on Afropunk got buried. Anyone want to quote bump me? Really wanted you guys to check some of those bands out[/quote]

Rewatched the first episode of the fear the walking dead and ya Kim Dickens is absolutely smoking. WOW.

Anyways I'm glad that the original walking dead show is still following the comic. That puts my mind at ease that they still have a basic plan for this show and aren't just making more episodes with no idea of how they are gonna wrap it up. I used to watch lost . . . . and then they lost me. sorry for the bad pun. i can't help myself. but seriously lost was a pretty great show but after while it just felt like you were spinning your tires. sometimes the walking dead feels like that. especially when rick is trying to be a farmer. thankfully were past that.

and in your afropunk post you said people were getting laid. was it a camping festival? because if not that's pretty wild. i mean i can see if you got a tent but were people just getting it on in the open? wtf

and Thundercat. I don’t know much about him but I liked the song you posted. Best bassist of our generation? I’ll have to listen to more of him before I can comment but the guy I have atop my list is Les Claypool. Are you familiar with Claypool or Primus (his band)? Guy does some things on bass I’ve never heard anyone else do. And while I’m on the topic of bass players, this guy from a band called twiddle will play bass chords sometimes which is not something I’ve ever seen done before.

[truth18]

Yup. Les is number two. Also seen him live. Its a pretty close 1/2 but they are the best bassists of our generation bar none imo.

And yeah, getting laid in the open, was pretty odd lol. Wasn't a tent festival in any way. Brooklyn

[peachbucket]

Gotta jump in this...lots of foreign films and lots of unexpected endings but no mention of The Secret in Their Eyes which was one of the best films I've seen in the last decade.

[Pacino62]

Gotta jump in this...lots of foreign films and lots of unexpected endings but no mention of The Secret in Their Eyes which was one of the best films I've seen in the last decade.

"The Secrets in Their Eyes" was awesome. Everything about that movie was perfect. With that said, I see about 200 films a year and it's been a while since I saw it, so I'm sure I've missed a few more This is certainly a great addition to both the list as well as great movie recs in general.

Side note is that normally I despise American remakes. However, this Fall/Winter, they are releasing the remake in time for an awards run. My interest is piqued because it stars the criminally underrated Chiwetel Ejiofor as well as Julia Roberts and Nicole Kidman. I'm cautiously optimistic. The only concern that I have is that the Director is predominantly a screenwriter. We'll see.