Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread

[TikiJJ]

I know you didn't say he was getting guaranteed 30+. I thought Yosemiteben was referring to the guy from the thing you posted and Lin super fans. We're all on the same page really, which is more what I meant to point out.

I could see Clifford ensuring he would get a lot of PT or a general idea of what he'd get. We have seen many cases here already of veterans getting solidly guaranteed roles before even touching the court and with little accountability, so I definitely don't think he is past that kind of thing. I really hope he didn't just straight up guarantee him 30 minutes or something like that, but I guess I don't completely rule it out.

Luckily juanciesta hasn't been around much since the Kemba vs. Lin thread got closed. Maybe this is the quiet before the storm that will start with the season lol.

Perfectly reasonable argument and I'd say that I actually agree with you. It's like you said, you and I are more or less on the same page. I even said in my initial post that "even if" Lin was promised 30 minutes per game, that he'll have to earn those minutes as the season progresses.

I'm a basketball fan first before a fan of a player. I don't believe in putting a single player's need over the team's need. If Lin's best role is to play 20 minutes per game for the Hornets to notch most Ws, then so be it. I'd rather watch him play 20 solid minutes and the team win, then to watch him average good numbers on a lottery team.

Two weeks ago before leaving on a trip, this forum was a much friendlier place...

I think it's in everyone's best interest(minus Clutchfanners Juancesta and friends ) that Lin plays great because we're going to need him if we're going to make the playoffs. I was reading the GB east predictions thread, and not one person had Charlotte in the playoffs. I look forward to our boys proving everyone around the league wrong this season

Let's hope so man, I'd really love to see them in the playoffs this year.

[fatlever]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXS4iIQrmGs[/youtube]

[TinmanZBoy]

Article from interview with JLin's shooting coach Doc Scheppler.

http://hoopshabit.com/2015/08/31/exclusive-interview-with-jeremy-lins-shooting-coach-doc-scheppler/

Obviously from the perspective of Jeremy's friend and partisan, and not necessarily reflective of Jeremy's own views. But I thought it had some interesting information bits in there. It seems they've found a key facet that may have contributed to the "fatigue" element that's been a problem for Lin in the past, especially in back to back games. They felt he was becoming overly fatigued due to putting too much energy into his legs during the jumpshots, and worked to fix that this summer, along with a quicker release.

If I were Jeremy, I would keep my inner people away from this Journalist named "Nathan Gottlieb". He is not helping. Bashing Lin's coaches left and right, Clifford is a real coach, others are not?? Is that joking? coming from Lin's shooting coach? I am wondering what kind of drugs he is cracking... Yes, those were not Lin's words, but the shooting coach has been with Lin for many years, his inner people, his opinions do have weight .... I hope Lin keeps low key, don't be another RGIII situation...
Quite frankly, Lin needs to improve his game, being a role player, you can't just play well with the ball in your hands all the time...Byron might be a little too harsh on Lin, and the Kobe factor etc...but at the end of the day, he got to learn from the experience, improve his game and be a better player... do his works and keep the mouth shut

[tonman]

I do not think any coach makes a minute guarantee to a role player. What they discussed was role on the team, playing style, etc., not minutes.

who on this team isn't a "role" player?

[qiantom]

I do not think any coach makes a minute guarantee to a role player. What they discussed was role on the team, playing style, etc., not minutes.

who on this team isn't a "role" player?

You don't like the term role player? At least there are players on the team that will get 30 min a game for sure.

[JuanCesta]

Lin and Lin fans should not accept Lin playing any less than 34 minutes a game. That will be a disgrace.

Point me to any other team where the hands down best player on the team plays less than 34 minutes a game? Except Curry at GSW because they are too stacked and Spurss because of Pop

[TikiJJ]

Lin and Lin fans should not accept Lin playing any less than 34 minutes a game. That will be a disgrace.

Point me to any other team where the hands down best player on the team plays less than 34 minutes a game? Except Curry at GSW because they are too stacked and Spurss because of Pop

JuanCesta and JuanCesta fans should not accept JuanCesta posting any less than 34 trollish posts a day. That will be a disgrace.

Point me to any other board where the hands down best troll on the board posts less than 34 troll posts a day? Except Tinman at Clutchfans because they are too stacked and LakersGround because of Poop

[spaceballer]

Another unbiased article.

Earlier this off-season, Charlotte was able to sign 27-year-old Jeremy Lin, who was an unrestricted free agent after his sole disastrous season with the Lakers.

Coming off a disappointing season that further pushed his critics to believe that his Linsanity stint in 2012 was a fluke, the former Harvard standout is expected to help out Hornets star Kemba Walker in both scoring and facilitating.

Or is it the other way around?

According to a report by YIBADA, a new report indicates that Charlotte's front office is contemplating on the idea. While Lin's play has been declining the past three seasons, he is still an above average player, averaging almost 15 points and 5 assists a game.

In the report by Baseline Buzz, Walker could be seen as an explosive backup guard who would dominate the opposing teams' secondary units. Meanwhile, Lin would be the one to start the game and facilitate on offense, boosting the offensive rhythm of the team.

Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/jeremy-lin-news-linsanity-star-at-starting-pg-what-about-charlottes-kemba-walker-143578/#lmeDOpf8WUZocR7x.99
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/jeremy-lin-news-linsanity-star-at-starting-pg-what-about-charlottes-kemba-walker-143578/#ofkCijZWtAKtJWmr.99

The guy cites a YIBADA article (which I have read) and it is hardly a credible/unbiased source.

I'm sure he knows that. Juan Cesta is just linking to an article whose title says Jeremy Lin should start at PG over Kemba Walker, because he wants to sow discord and conflict in this forum for the amusement of him and his friends over at Clutchfans with their thread rooting for Lin and the Hornets to fail.

[yosemiteben]

Hornets folks on here are just going to ignore this Juan Cesta dude, he's doing a pretty bad job if he wants to be taken seriously which is Step 1 in being a good troll.

[nikeykid]

that video was pretty funny. can't wait for the season to start!

[razsan]

If I were Jeremy, I would keep my inner people away from this Journalist named "Nathan Gottlieb". He is not helping. Bashing Lin's coaches left and right, Clifford is a real coach, others are not?? Is that joking? coming from Lin's shooting coach? I am wondering what kind of drugs he is cracking... Yes, those were not Lin's words, but the shooting coach has been with Lin for many years, his inner people, his opinions do have weight .... I hope Lin keeps low key, don't be another RGIII situation...
Quite frankly, Lin needs to improve his game, being a role player, you can't just play well with the ball in your hands all the time...Byron might be a little too harsh on Lin, and the Kobe factor etc...but at the end of the day, he got to learn from the experience, improve his game and be a better player... do his works and keep the mouth shut

In agreement overall with what you said but let's face it, either by direction from ownership or stubbornness, Scott was a pretty bad game manager. He may not "BE" a bad coach but he went out of his to make sure that unusual lineups were on the floor at the same time. Make all the judgments you want on McHale but Lin's biggest issue there was the alpha dog Harden (rightfully so). Harden is simply a better player and was the face of the franchise.

[Durant Durant]

clifford has hinted a GSW-type backcourt. let's see.

[Hornet Mania]

Everyone is going to use "GSW-like" as their buzz phrase of choice this training camp and preseason. Lin and Kemba have zero in common with anything Golden State does, as far as I can tell. I think they actually might be a decent tandem in short stretches, but whenever someone from our organization tries to name-drop the Warriors in relation to anything we've done this season I can't resist a HUGE eye-roll. Our roster construction has absolutely nothing in common with Golden State, and if we tried to run a system that was in any way similar to theirs we would get killed.

[yosemiteben]

Everyone is going to use "GSW-like" as their buzz phrase of choice this training camp and preseason.

Yup. Early front running candidate for cliche of the year.

[HornetJail]

clifford has hinted a GSW-type backcourt. let's see.

lel, Steph and Klay may each shoot a better percentage from three and than ours will from the field. And they will be shooting at insane volumes. gl with that cliffy

[fatlever]

Can Al Jefferson play the David Lee role? - the vet who gives up his starting spot for the betterment of the team.

Green Font Alert...

Lin = Curry
Kemba = Barbosa
MKG = Iggy
Lamb = Klay
Batum = Green
Marvin = Barnes
Jefferson = Lee
Hansbrough = Bogut
Hawes = Speights
Zeller = Festus
Frank = WILDCARD!!!

We've so got this. 2016 NBA Champs.

[JDR720]

Can Al Jefferson play the David Lee role? - the vet who gives up his starting spot for the betterment of the team.

Green Font Alert...

Lin = Curry
Kemba = Barbosa
MKG = Iggy
Lamb = Klay
Batum = Green
Marvin = Barnes
Jefferson = Lee
Hansbrough = Bogut
Hawes = Speights
Zeller = Festus
Frank = WILDCARD!!!

We've so got this. 2016 NBA Champs.

Frank is Dirk, except even better. or if we're sticking to warriors only, i hear Ognjen Kuzmic is pretty good.

[nikeykid]

Frank is Dirk, except even better. or if we're sticking to warriors only, i hear Ognjen Kuzmic is pretty good.

kuzmic is good. lead our D-league team to the championship! then held everyone's towels during the playoffs. MVP material.

[Roy Tarpley]

A fan asked Lin on Facebook: "care to share your thought process on joining the hornets? i personally felt like you would have a bigger role on the mavs and possibly become the starting PG since your competition would only be JJ barea (who i think you're better than and would beat out for the starting PG spot). whereas on the hornets, you'll be playing behind kemba and be in a seemingly lesser role."

Lin responded: "My number 1 priority was finding the best opportunity to get the most minutes playing my style of play. Wont get too much into it, but Charlotte was by far the best choice. Spoke to Coach Clifford for a couple hours and really understands my game. I feel like he will bring out the best in me."

Since Lin averaged 32 min his first year on the Rockets, 29 his second, and 26 during that crappy situation on the Lakers, I find it hard to believe that he would go willingly into a situation where he gets anything less than 26 min/game. His "best opportunity to get the most minutes playing my style of play" -- I would think -- would have to be more than the 26 min he got on the Lakers.

Who knows, maybe Lin would be happy with just 20 min/game if it's 20 minutes of pure PnR with Lin controlling the ball. But based on Lin's comments, Clifford's comments, and the fact that the Hornets will be competing for a playoff spot, I would bet that by season end, Lin will average *at least* 30 min/game.

[JuanCesta]

Can Al Jefferson play the David Lee role? - the vet who gives up his starting spot for the betterment of the team.

Green Font Alert...

Lin = Curry
Kemba = Barbosa
MKG = Iggy
Lamb = Klay
Batum = Green
Marvin = Barnes
Jefferson = Lee
Hansbrough = Bogut
Hawes = Speights
Zeller = Festus
Frank = WILDCARD!!!

We've so got this. 2016 NBA Champs.

Good comparison. IMO. And very accurate mostly


Lin = Curry except for the shooting. As I have said several times Curry is just a rich man's Lin with better shooting. Lin however is the better defender, quicker, faster and more clutch. Curry has advantage of being coddled and that is why GSW phased out Lin since he was clearly competing with Curry. SO overall I'd say Curry > Lin by a tiny fraction due to shooting. Lin usually is double and triple teamed unlike Curry and when Lin gets to the lane refs call offensive foul unfairly

Kemba > Barbosa. Walker is better than Barbosa. Like Lin, Walker has to face the entire opposition planning to stop him while Barbose comes off the bench and plays 2nd units.

MKG < Iggy. Defensively MKG is better than Iggy. However iggy while not a great offensive player is better than MKG by a margin making him overall better.

Lamb < Klay. Due to experience Lamb is less than Klay. But coming out of college Lamb was the higher prospect. I am sure Lin can make Lamb look great like he made Landry Fields and Steve Novak

Batum > Green. Batum is the better overall player.

Marvin = Barnes. Agree

Jefferson > Lee. Big AL is the better player offensively and defensively. WHile both are bad on D, Lee is a sieve while big Al at least tries.

Hansbrough < Bogut. both bring the thuggish attitude but Bogut is better due to upper body strength and high post passing.


Hawes = Speights

Zeller = Festus

A Lin led Hornets team can defeinitely win the Eastern Conference and be a top 3 seed in Regular season. After that it's a coin's toss