The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 1)
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I'm ashamed to say this, but I think we've seen the best of Curry. All I can hope for is a season as good as the last, because I really don't anticipate improvement.
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PCProductions wrote:I'm ashamed to say this, but I think we've seen the best of Curry. All I can hope for is a season as good as the last, because I really don't anticipate improvement.
Well he is 27 and will be 28 in the playoffs, so yeah its believable that we have. He sort of came into his own later than most superstars have historically.
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I hope he saves his energy for the PS. They will face tougher challenge this year.
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PCProductions wrote:I'm ashamed to say this, but I think we've seen the best of Curry. All I can hope for is a season as good as the last, because I really don't anticipate improvement.
I don't. Maybe statistically, from a fantasy perspective, yes. But as a player, I wouldn't expect Curry to plateau just yet. He's improved every year since coming into the league.
As this team is signed through next season as well, almost without change, chemistry improves and we might see an even better Warriors team going forward. As for Curry himself, he's done nothing but improve every year he's been in the league, and has done much better at drawing fouls towards the end of last season. If he sustains that for an entire season, an extra 1-2 FT per game is essentially a 1-2 pt jump per game as well.
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Curry might have peaked but I think he can maintain his level of impact for 3-4 more years and he'll boost his playoff stats by making the second round at least every year.
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I'm not quite sure we did see Curry peak, he's still toying with the idea of what is a good shot for him. I mean 45% for 3s on 8+ attempts a game. He could up the attempts and still conceivably shoot over 40% on 3s. Hell post ASB he was shooting over 10 a game at over 50% ... I doubt that's sustainable for a season but who knows.
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2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
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What an absurd statement, that we've seen the best from him.
Dude is 27 years old, he's only going to get better. The great ones add to their games as their careers progress, and Steph is one of the great ones. No doubt he will improve
Dude is 27 years old, he's only going to get better. The great ones add to their games as their careers progress, and Steph is one of the great ones. No doubt he will improve
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PCProductions wrote:I'm ashamed to say this, but I think we've seen the best of Curry. All I can hope for is a season as good as the last, because I really don't anticipate improvement.
Even if that's true, that's still plenty good. I don't think he has any room to improve as a shooter for example, I mean the kid is pretty much the GSOAT as of now. Maybe not in volume, but certainly in abilities. I think he will improve his decision making, wouldn't be shocked if he'd post a significantly better assist to turnover ratio for example. As an athlete and as a shooter, he probably is very close to his ceiling.
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Johnny Firpo wrote:PCProductions wrote:I'm ashamed to say this, but I think we've seen the best of Curry. All I can hope for is a season as good as the last, because I really don't anticipate improvement.
Even if that's true, that's still plenty good. I don't think he has any room to improve as a shooter for example, I mean the kid is pretty much the GSOAT as of now. Maybe not in volume, but certainly in abilities. I think he will improve his decision making, wouldn't be shocked if he'd post a significantly better assist to turnover ratio for example. As an athlete and as a shooter, he probably is very close to his ceiling.
Unless he changes the mechanics of his passing, I don't think he'll improve here. That hook pass thing is just not reliable.
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FNQ wrote:PCProductions wrote:I'm ashamed to say this, but I think we've seen the best of Curry. All I can hope for is a season as good as the last, because I really don't anticipate improvement.
I don't. Maybe statistically, from a fantasy perspective, yes. But as a player, I wouldn't expect Curry to plateau just yet. He's improved every year since coming into the league.
As this team is signed through next season as well, almost without change, chemistry improves and we might see an even better Warriors team going forward. As for Curry himself, he's done nothing but improve every year he's been in the league, and has done much better at drawing fouls towards the end of last season. If he sustains that for an entire season, an extra 1-2 FT per game is essentially a 1-2 pt jump per game as well.
Good post and I agree.
Curry is very smart and he is a student of the game. As FNQ said, even though his skills may have plateau'd, he is still learning nuances of the NBA game and is in the process of perfecting his.
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Curry was under 40% before all-star break from 3 last year, so he has a chance to have an even more ridiculous 3pt season
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Dr Positivity wrote:Curry was under 40% before all-star break from 3 last year, so he has a chance to have an even more ridiculous 3pt season
He also shot a career-low from 16-23 feet, which may normalize this year as well.
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I would like for Curry to continue his improvements defensively. Disagree with the idea that he has plateaued. He's not Russell Westbrook physically but he's 6'3", deceptively strong and also deceptively quick. I see no reason why he can't take the next step from above average defender to great defender. Also, experience can help refine your understanding of the game, floor vision, decision making, leadership, etc. He's one of those guys I could see having his best season in his 30s a la Nash.
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Stringcheese wrote:What an absurd statement, that we've seen the best from him.
Dude is 27 years old, he's only going to get better. The great ones add to their games as their careers progress, and Steph is one of the great ones. No doubt he will improve
how old was lebron when he left cleveland? statistically speaking his last few years are often cited as his best of his career. I believe he was 25/26? Obviously he got better as a player in terms of smarts, skills and whatnot but from that point on, Lebron plateaued in terms of stats unless you take his extreme efficiency in Miami as his best. Either way, it's not that ridiculous to think that Curry having an all-time season last year isn't easily duplicated or even topped.
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BlzMwt wrote:Stringcheese wrote:What an absurd statement, that we've seen the best from him.
Dude is 27 years old, he's only going to get better. The great ones add to their games as their careers progress, and Steph is one of the great ones. No doubt he will improve
how old was lebron when he left cleveland? statistically speaking his last few years are often cited as his best of his career. I believe he was 25/26? Obviously he got better as a player in terms of smarts, skills and whatnot but from that point on, Lebron plateaued in terms of stats unless you take his extreme efficiency in Miami as his best. Either way, it's not that ridiculous to think that Curry having an all-time season last year isn't easily duplicated or even topped.
Lebron relies on his extreme physical gifts which begin to deteriorate around 25/26 maybe deteriorate is too strong but peaks around that age range, which would explain why Lebron peaked earlier than someone who's game relies more on skills, which peaks much later in one's career.
Most 4th Quarter Points in Final since 1991
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
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Onus wrote:BlzMwt wrote:Stringcheese wrote:What an absurd statement, that we've seen the best from him.
Dude is 27 years old, he's only going to get better. The great ones add to their games as their careers progress, and Steph is one of the great ones. No doubt he will improve
how old was lebron when he left cleveland? statistically speaking his last few years are often cited as his best of his career. I believe he was 25/26? Obviously he got better as a player in terms of smarts, skills and whatnot but from that point on, Lebron plateaued in terms of stats unless you take his extreme efficiency in Miami as his best. Either way, it's not that ridiculous to think that Curry having an all-time season last year isn't easily duplicated or even topped.
Lebron relies on his extreme physical gifts which begin to deteriorate around 25/26 maybe deteriorate is too strong but peaks around that age range, which would explain why Lebron peaked earlier than someone who's game relies more on skills, which peaks much later in one's career.
A lot of people here do think LeBron peaked in 12/13 (including me) and offensively peaked in 2014 IMO. He was a better athlete in 09 for sure but as a player it's debatable if he was better in 13 when he was 28.
As for Curry, I do think he might get a bit better with his shooting and control of the game but I am not sure he's going to be that much better. He doesn't rely on his athleticism to the extent LeBron does but he's still pretty quick and a decline in some athleticism could result in him not being able to get to his spots or impact his driving game.
I am not saying he won't get better but it is very possible that he might not. He was arguably the best player last year, it's not easy to improve from that.
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PaulieWal wrote:Onus wrote:BlzMwt wrote:
how old was lebron when he left cleveland? statistically speaking his last few years are often cited as his best of his career. I believe he was 25/26? Obviously he got better as a player in terms of smarts, skills and whatnot but from that point on, Lebron plateaued in terms of stats unless you take his extreme efficiency in Miami as his best. Either way, it's not that ridiculous to think that Curry having an all-time season last year isn't easily duplicated or even topped.
Lebron relies on his extreme physical gifts which begin to deteriorate around 25/26 maybe deteriorate is too strong but peaks around that age range, which would explain why Lebron peaked earlier than someone who's game relies more on skills, which peaks much later in one's career.
A lot of people here do think LeBron peaked in 12/13 (including me) and offensively peaked in 2014 IMO. He was a better athlete in 09 for sure but as a player it's debatable if he was better in 13 when he was 28.
As for Curry, I do think he might get a bit better with his shooting and control of the game but I am not sure he's going to be that much better. He doesn't rely on his athleticism to the extent LeBron does but he's still pretty quick and a decline in some athleticism could result in him not being able to get to his spots or impact his driving game.
I am not saying he won't get better but it is very possible that he might not. He was arguably the best player last year, it's not easy to improve from that.
I agree that I think Lebron's peak was more inline with his time in Miami than in Cleveland, I was just responding to that particular response.
As for Curry, I think he does have a better season this season. His second season in the offense, now he knows where to get his shots so he has a whole off season to work on those shots. He didn't have a great start to the season last year, but that's been true for most of his career.
The big thing about Curry though are his step backs on bigger players, IDK if he'll always be able to do that but as long as he does he'll always be able to go by his defender.
Most 4th Quarter Points in Final since 1991
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
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FNQ wrote:PCProductions wrote:I'm ashamed to say this, but I think we've seen the best of Curry. All I can hope for is a season as good as the last, because I really don't anticipate improvement.
I don't. Maybe statistically, from a fantasy perspective, yes. But as a player, I wouldn't expect Curry to plateau just yet. He's improved every year since coming into the league.
As this team is signed through next season as well, almost without change, chemistry improves and we might see an even better Warriors team going forward. As for Curry himself, he's done nothing but improve every year he's been in the league, and has done much better at drawing fouls towards the end of last season. If he sustains that for an entire season, an extra 1-2 FT per game is essentially a 1-2 pt jump per game as well.
Same. I think Curry has one more level of improvement in him, if not as dramatic as in each of the last three seasons. It's not like his athleticism is dropping off and there's more to mine with Curry's now unshakable confidence and Kerr further developing GSW's system.
Dr Positivity wrote:Curry was under 40% before all-star break from 3 last year, so he has a chance to have an even more ridiculous 3pt season
I had forgotten that. He ended up with one of his best shooting seasons on the highest volume ever with least minutes played leading the team. For some reason Curry just turns it on in the back third.
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Nash on board as "Player Development Consultant". Can't really ask for a better influence on Curry's game.
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