LTU NT and JV at the 2015 European Championship

Thespianoid · Post #621 » by **Thespianoid** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:55 pm

I'm not so sure about some of these calls on Vesely. Last few looked pretty minor contact-wise.

Seems like the refs just decided they had enough of his complaining and called him for any ticky-tack **** they could.

RPzB · Post #622 » by **RPzB** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:56 pm

Alfred wrote:
RPzB wrote:LTU is trash this year. Everyone will put blame on the coach, but IMO PGs are to blame.

How does a small basketball-crazy country like Lithuania not produce more capable PGs? They've had crap play at that position since Jasikevicius retired.

Thy teach tactics and never teach creativity, don't let make mistakes to learn, etc.

Post #623 » by **pbj** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:57 pm

Jonas is +12 but only played 17 minutes, and just got subbed out with 8 to go. I wonder if he'll get back in.

EDIT: He's back..

RPzB · Post #624 » by **RPzB** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:00 pm

Jonas while being ill and dehydrated still dominated Vesely.

Thespianoid · Post #625 » by **Thespianoid** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:05 pm

JV gotta recognize the wing defender sinking to help middle and not force it there. Spin away baseline, or faceup and shoot a jumper.

rmnts · Post #626 » by **rmnts** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:10 pm

kalnietis.... just amazing....

Post #627 » by **Dirk** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:11 pm

Dwane Casey must be laughing his ass off at these Lithuanian guards at the end of games.

Post #628 » by **pbj** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:12 pm

00:09 J. Valanciunas - block (3 BS)

That bit of text looks like it was clutch.

Thespianoid · Post #629 » by **Thespianoid** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:14 pm

rmnts wrote:kalnietis.... just amazing....

23.5% FG (4/17) and great decision making :nonono:

i don't know how he still has so much free reign. Shame LTU has no one better to handle the ball...maybe it's time to try Juskevicius just for the hell of it :lol:

edit: nevermind, he's not on the team. Call him up! Not sure how much worse he can be than the Kalnietis/Lekavicius combo.

M1nd · Post #630 » by **M1nd** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:17 pm

Derozan - Casey , Kalnietis - Kazlauskas i swear guys, Kalnietis keeps shooting bricks wtf

RaptorHusky · Post #631 » by **RaptorHusky** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:41 pm

I just hope that playing last ~15 mins half-conscious will not hurt JV's condition

Juscius · Post #632 » by **Juscius** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:44 pm

He got couple days to recover, next match is on Sunday (vs Georgia). Then quarterfinals at Wednesdays (probably vs Italy)

cold_cowboy · Post #633 » by **cold_cowboy** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:49 pm

Alfred wrote:
RPzB wrote:LTU is trash this year. Everyone will put blame on the coach, but IMO PGs are to blame.

How does a small basketball-crazy country like Lithuania not produce more capable PGs? They've had crap play at that position since Jasikevicius retired.

we're the population equivalent of kansas, and jasikevicius only retired 2 years ago.

cold_cowboy · Post #634 » by **cold_cowboy** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:54 pm

i'll say this though, for all the offensive troubles lithuania has had, the defense has been very good. watching the italy-serbia game, the tension defensively is nothing compared to what i've been watching.

Post #635 » by **Alfred** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:57 pm

cold_cowboy wrote:
Alfred wrote:
RPzB wrote:LTU is trash this year. Everyone will put blame on the coach, but IMO PGs are to blame.

How does a small basketball-crazy country like Lithuania not produce more capable PGs? They've had crap play at that position since Jasikevicius retired.

we're the population equivalent of kansas, and jasikevicius only retired 2 years ago.

Isn't it a bit odd that such a small country would produce a lot of capable big men, yet struggle when it comes to a position that is usually the easiest to fill?

RPzB · Post #636 » by **RPzB** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:03 pm

Alfred wrote:
cold_cowboy wrote:
Alfred wrote:
How does a small basketball-crazy country like Lithuania not produce more capable PGs? They've had crap play at that position since Jasikevicius retired.

we're the population equivalent of kansas, and jasikevicius only retired 2 years ago.

Isn't it a bit odd that such a small country would produce a lot of capable big men, yet struggle when it comes to a position that is usually the easiest to fill?

As I said. In Lithuania basketball teaching is on an industrial level. Academies compete in tournaments against each other. Coaches from small days train dudes to make plays, learn schemes, etc. They play to win, not play to develop kids in various non-standardized ways, thus we lack creative players and PG has to be creative.

cold_cowboy · Post #637 » by **cold_cowboy** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:04 pm

Alfred wrote:
cold_cowboy wrote:
Alfred wrote:
How does a small basketball-crazy country like Lithuania not produce more capable PGs? They've had crap play at that position since Jasikevicius retired.

we're the population equivalent of kansas, and jasikevicius only retired 2 years ago.

Isn't it a bit odd that such a small country would produce a lot of capable big men, yet struggle when it comes to a position that is usually the easiest to fill?

i mean historically we've never had good point guards, jasikevicius is the exception.

RPzB · Post #638 » by **RPzB** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:04 pm

cold_cowboy wrote:
Alfred wrote:
cold_cowboy wrote:we're the population equivalent of kansas, and jasikevicius only retired 2 years ago.

Isn't it a bit odd that such a small country would produce a lot of capable big men, yet struggle when it comes to a position that is usually the easiest to fill?

i mean historically we've never had good point guards, jasikevicius is the exception.

Marčiulionis?

Post #639 » by **Alfred** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:05 pm

cold_cowboy wrote:
Alfred wrote:
cold_cowboy wrote:we're the population equivalent of kansas, and jasikevicius only retired 2 years ago.

Isn't it a bit odd that such a small country would produce a lot of capable big men, yet struggle when it comes to a position that is usually the easiest to fill?

i mean historically we've never had good point guards, jasikevicius is the exception.

Yeah, I just find it a bit weird.

cold_cowboy · Post #640 » by **cold_cowboy** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:08 pm

RPzB wrote:
cold_cowboy wrote:
Alfred wrote:
Isn't it a bit odd that such a small country would produce a lot of capable big men, yet struggle when it comes to a position that is usually the easiest to fill?

i mean historically we've never had good point guards, jasikevicius is the exception.

Marčiulionis?

he may have played pg for us occasionally, but he's always been a sg/sf. the fact that he could handle the ball so well made him the ball handler for our national team and the soviets, but it doesn't mean he was a point guard by traditional standards.