OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2

Heat3 · Post #1421 » by **Heat3** » Thu Sep 3, 2015 8:06 pm

aj's record doesn't mean anything. the fans didn't even care when she was still wrestling. all i heard was cm punk chants for a year whenever she'd make an appearance.

at least the bella are heels and get booed so it has something to do with them :lol:

i wouldn't mind if nikki broke it so she gets more heat but i'm betting she won't. they're making a bigger deal out of it so i'm expecting her to come up short.

asuran · Post #1422 » by **asuran** » Thu Sep 3, 2015 9:34 pm

Bill Pidto wrote: You guys are taking this way too seriously. Since when is the Divas division and the record for longest reign as Divas champ so important to people? I mean.. there wasn't even a Divas division/belt until about 7 years ago. There was a women's title that was barely competed over. Never until now has there even been such a large crop of talented female wrestlers in WWE. So tell me- she's sitting atop a list over what legendary performers? I know there are some on that list, trust me. But were there enough in the history of WWE to make this record so saught after?

Eventually, all the new talent coming from NXT will take over (no pun intended), and women's wrestling will get better and better and the mainstream audience will actually care. Hopefully. But until then, AJ's record doesn't mean anything to me because with the exception of a few gems, the Divas division has always been crap and the belt is anything but prestigious IMO. Especially being called the "Divas Champsionship".

To be honest I don't care too much about AJ and I've never mentioned so. I've only re-started following WWE casually this year.

I just don't like to see Nikki Bella on top of the list.
Feels kind of like seeing Bargnani's name associated with the Knicks, that kind of way.

Tho it seems like someone took things more seriously, even knowing the history of the Divas Division.

kingquan316 · Post #1423 » by **kingquan316** » Fri Sep 4, 2015 1:05 am

Bill Pidto wrote:
asuran wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:I know no one cares, but I get so pissed at how they have handled the Divas Title.

Did they hate AJ Lee so much, that they have to purposely give the title to Nicki Bella to hold it the longest ever? I mean you if you want fans to really respect the divas division, why would they do something like that? It actually really irritated me when they first started announcing that she has had the title so and so days, because I knew it was because they wanted to totally remove AJ Lee.

Longest reign should be to someone who is actually significant or important to that era etc etc. When you look back at this 10 years from now and say,,,WHAT? Nikki Bella held the title the longest? Will look like an absolute joke. Which is why no one can take the divas seriously.

I hope she doesn't hold it til NOC.
Maybe they are setting her up for a big fail, like somehow losing it on Raw the coming week thru some plot twist. Unlikely but I am so hopeful for it.

It's terrible to see Nikki Bella's name at the top of the list as Divas Champion.

You guys are taking this way too seriously. Since when is the Divas division and the record for longest reign as Divas champ so important to people? I mean.. there wasn't even a Divas division/belt until about 7 years ago. There was a women's title that was barely competed over. Never until now has there even been such a large crop of talented female wrestlers in WWE. So tell me- she's sitting atop a list over what legendary performers? I know there are some on that list, trust me. But were there enough in the history of WWE to make this record so saught after?

Eventually, all the new talent coming from NXT will take over (no pun intended), and women's wrestling will get better and better and the mainstream audience will actually care. Hopefully. But until then, AJ's record doesn't mean anything to me because with the exception of a few gems, the Divas division has always been crap and the belt is anything but prestigious IMO. Especially being called the "Divas Champsionship".

This is true, it's not like she will be the longest women's champion, it's that she will be the longest champion holding that ugly diva's title. Trish held the former women's title for 400+ days. So Nikki Bella won't even be the longest women's champion of the modern era.

The main thing for me is that there are a lot of great divas currently on the roster, and yet she drags everyone down with her being the champ. Instead of being excited for the prospect of a new and improve women's division, we have to continue to wait until this below average wrestler get's that dumb record that no one cares about, before we can move on and actually see the growth of the women't division. But hey it's almost time, and I predict Charlotte to beat Nikki at NOC, and hopefully we will never see a Bella hold that title ever again.

xNewYorkMadex · Post #1424 » by **xNewYorkMadex** » Wed Sep 9, 2015 11:43 pm

Does anyone know what were the original plans for Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania 30?

If Punk was going to wrestle HHH, and Orton was going to main event against Batista, what were the plans for Bryan?

CoreyVillains · Post #1425 » by **CoreyVillains** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:26 am

I think Nikki is going to win on Raw this week when one of the members of PCB (my guess is Paige) turns. They need to spice up that story line and break up the factions before it gets stale.

ctorres · Post #1426 » by **ctorres** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:41 am

xNewYorkMadex wrote:Does anyone know what were the original plans for Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania 30?

If Punk was going to wrestle HHH, and Orton was going to main event against Batista, what were the plans for Bryan?

A match with Sheamus.

kingquan316 · Post #1427 » by **kingquan316** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:01 am

CoreyVillains wrote:I think Nikki is going to win on Raw this week when one of the members of PCB (my guess is Paige) turns. They need to spice up that story line and break up the factions before it gets stale.

The thing is I think that Charlotte would be the best heel out of PCB, but she can't turn heel when she's the one challenging Nikki. She seems a little stale as a baby face, but she can be an arrogant heel where she channels her father's personality who was one of the best heels in the business.

CoreyVillains · Post #1428 » by **CoreyVillains** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:55 am

kingquan316 wrote:
CoreyVillains wrote:I think Nikki is going to win on Raw this week when one of the members of PCB (my guess is Paige) turns. They need to spice up that story line and break up the factions before it gets stale.

The thing is I think that Charlotte would be the best heel out of PCB, but she can't turn heel when she's the one challenging Nikki. She seems a little stale as a baby face, but she can be an arrogant heel where she channels her father's personality who was one of the best heels in the business.

She definitely has been boring as a face and I agree shell be a better heel, but its to soon for her to turn heel and make it an interesting story the way everything has played out. I think Paige has been getting the **** end of the stick lately and I can see her turning and trying to take credit as the one who really sparked the divas revolution.

kingquan316 · Post #1429 » by **kingquan316** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:00 am

CoreyVillains wrote:
kingquan316 wrote:
CoreyVillains wrote:I think Nikki is going to win on Raw this week when one of the members of PCB (my guess is Paige) turns. They need to spice up that story line and break up the factions before it gets stale.

The thing is I think that Charlotte would be the best heel out of PCB, but she can't turn heel when she's the one challenging Nikki. She seems a little stale as a baby face, but she can be an arrogant heel where she channels her father's personality who was one of the best heels in the business.

She definitely has been boring as a face and I agree shell be a better heel, but its to soon for her to turn heel and make it an interesting story the way everything has played out. I think Paige has been getting the **** end of the stick lately and I can see her turning and trying to take credit as the one who really sparked the divas revolution.

The only reason I don't want to turn Paige is because she turned two times already. She debuted as a face, then turned heel with her feud with AJ Lee, then turned back as a face. Too many turns is damaging to a character because fans can't get invested in them because they always have a different personality. That is a reason why I hate the Bella twins as characters. As characters they not only suck on the mic and in the ring, but the storytelling with their characters are terrible. They feuded with each other, then they came back together like nothing happened, then they turned face, then now they are back heels. There is no Diva's revolution because the writers are terrible.

delvec19 · Post #1430 » by **delvec19** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:13 pm

ctorres wrote:
xNewYorkMadex wrote:Does anyone know what were the original plans for Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania 30?

If Punk was going to wrestle HHH, and Orton was going to main event against Batista, what were the plans for Bryan?

A match with Sheamus.

I still think even if Punk stayed, there would have been just as much backlash to somehow get Bryan in the main event. He was just way too over.

ctorres · Post #1431 » by **ctorres** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:01 pm

delvec19 wrote:
ctorres wrote:
xNewYorkMadex wrote:Does anyone know what were the original plans for Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania 30?

If Punk was going to wrestle HHH, and Orton was going to main event against Batista, what were the plans for Bryan?

A match with Sheamus.

I still think even if Punk stayed, there would have been just as much backlash to somehow get Bryan in the main event. He was just way too over.

I wish we could have gotten a CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan match. I'm hoping we still might by Wrestlemania 33 or 34. The story they can tell leading up to it could be incredible. As similar as their careers were, they each have very contrasting personalities, which make them perfect compliments. Would love to see them call each other out on their crap, and see each make their case for who is the best wrestler.

Meat · Post #1432 » by **Meat** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:09 pm

be prepared for a lot of broken diva noses. Kana is coming to nxt. if you havent seen kana wrestle, go youtube it, it's a thing of beauty

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TVUncuqiYc[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQvWSswmQAU[/youtube]

delvec19 · Post #1433 » by **delvec19** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:44 pm

ctorres wrote:
delvec19 wrote:
ctorres wrote:
A match with Sheamus.

I still think even if Punk stayed, there would have been just as much backlash to somehow get Bryan in the main event. He was just way too over.

I wish we could have gotten a CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan match. I'm hoping we still might by Wrestlemania 33 or 34. The story they can tell leading up to it could be incredible. As similar as their careers were, they each have very contrasting personalities, which make them perfect compliments. Would love to see them call each other out on their crap, and see each make their case for who is the best wrestler.

They feuded in 2012 had a bunch of good matches and 2 on PPV for the WWE title. Never a Mania match though, if thats what you were implying.

Heat3 · Post #1434 » by **Heat3** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:31 pm

i'm thinking night of champions will be night of seth rollins. thinking roman will cut a deal with him to bring him back to the shield against the wyatts in exchange for some heel work against sting. rollins does three matches. vs wyatts (win), vs cena (loss) and vs sting (win).

i'd throw in a double cross by reigns at the end. after rollins retains against sting, reigns attacks him and leaves him beaten so that sheamus cashes in. perhaps its then revealed that reigns had a second side deal with the authority.

DowNY · Post #1435 » by **DowNY** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:45 pm

Another new 3-man faction. Cosmic Wasteland.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xeju5_i4FQ[/youtube]

Hopefully they extend the Wyatts number so they stand out, much like the Ministry.

Carl_Karlson · Post #1436 » by **Carl_Karlson** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:53 pm

What the hell is Stardust's gimmick? Aside from a Goldust ripoff with out the edgy material

Triple C · Post #1437 » by **Triple C** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:59 pm

Carl_Karlson wrote:What the hell is Stardust's gimmick? Aside from a Goldust ripoff with out the edgy material

The Riddler/Joker. Cody Rhodes is a great comicbook fan, It is inspired by the kind of characters

Heat3 · Post #1438 » by **Heat3** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:20 pm

nobody cared about the acension, hopefully this will give them some life.

asuran · Post #1439 » by **asuran** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:18 am

Heat3 wrote:i'm thinking night of champions will be night of seth rollins. thinking roman will cut a deal with him to bring him back to the shield against the wyatts in exchange for some heel work against sting. rollins does three matches. vs wyatts (win), vs cena (loss) and vs sting (win).

i'd throw in a double cross by reigns at the end. after rollins retains against sting, reigns attacks him and leaves him beaten so that sheamus cashes in. perhaps its then revealed that reigns had a second side deal with the authority.

Not sure if this guy will be Ambrose and Reigns partner or not. Just an internet rumour I guess.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/617481-photo-wwe-possibly-spoils-roman-reigns-and-dean-ambroses-night-of-champions-mystery-partner

It's so out of left field and I'm not sure if he's ready.

kingquan316 · Post #1440 » by **kingquan316** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:30 am

asuran wrote:
Heat3 wrote:i'm thinking night of champions will be night of seth rollins. thinking roman will cut a deal with him to bring him back to the shield against the wyatts in exchange for some heel work against sting. rollins does three matches. vs wyatts (win), vs cena (loss) and vs sting (win).

i'd throw in a double cross by reigns at the end. after rollins retains against sting, reigns attacks him and leaves him beaten so that sheamus cashes in. perhaps its then revealed that reigns had a second side deal with the authority.

Not sure if this guy will be Ambrose and Reigns partner or not. Just an internet rumour I guess.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/617481-photo-wwe-possibly-spoils-roman-reigns-and-dean-ambroses-night-of-champions-mystery-partner

It's so out of left field and I'm not sure if he's ready.

That would be anticlimactic.

Nobody cares about Corbin.