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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#21 » by Hawk Eye » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:33 pm

uga_dawgs24 wrote:
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Teague has been a consistent performer for years and has an affordable, long-term contract. He is the best trade chip we possess. (Also, Schroeder's rookie scale salary makes it difficult to bring back great value in trade.)

Lakers, Pacers, Minnesota, PHX could all use a veteran, playoff-tested PG.


Would the rockets want Teague? After cutting ties with Jeremy Lin it seems they would want Teague pretty badly to help get them over the hump in that DEEP western conference playoffs. Idk if they have much that would make the Teague trade worth it for us though.


The key is what would they give? Jones? DoMo? Do those players really make sense for Atlanta to trade for?


As it stands I have to say no. I believe Teague will take his game up another notch this season.
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#22 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:55 pm

How Dennis is spending his summer:

[instagram]https://instagram.com/p/5NgdGMnccM/[/instagram]

I'm expecting even more from DS this upcoming season. In my mind, he is ready to be the starter.
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#23 » by Rip2137 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:31 pm

This is a huge year for dennis. He has to improve as a backup, which I think he will do, but if he has another playoff like he did last year, alot of his trade value will fall and the Hawks will really need to look to another backup point.

Sure, he would still be able to produce for other teams, but he was the worse rotation player for us in 2-3 playoff rounds last year. If he cant be even average as a backup in this system in the playoffs, he definitely isn't the starter of the future and we would need to upgrade the backup point. If has a breakout playoff run, he does look like a starter and makes Teague expendible.

But lets take off the rose colored glasses. He went from the worse guard on our team as a rookie to the worse player in our playoff rotation in year two. He is not ready to be a starter. Making the next step is important here. But at the very least he is one year away from maybe being a starter on a good team(IMO it would take a dramatic jump for that to be true...i think he is at least 2 years away)
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#24 » by tbhawksfan1 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:41 pm

He wants it. He's still very young and most likely tried to over compernsate for a bunch of injured teammates during the playoffs. He had a great season.

How many 20 year olds contributed like him last year?

He wants it and he will be a very good player again this year at what 21
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#25 » by Rip2137 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:59 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:He wants it. He's still very young and most likely tried to over compernsate for a bunch of injured teammates during the playoffs. He had a great season.

How many 20 year olds contributed like him last year?

He wants it and he will be a very good player again this year at what 21



Yeah, I hope it was just a case of trying to do too much. But we can't be better off playing Shelvin Mack again next year in the playoffs. Young or not young, if we are going to be a championship caliber team you have to get something from your backup playmaker. Its not me thinking he is going to be a bust, its wondering if we can afford the waiting game with him with the Nba's always rapidly closing window.
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#26 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Aug 5, 2015 1:59 pm

HERE

Atlanta Hawks’ Dennis Schroder on cover of NBA 2K16 Germany

The Hawks guard was chosen for the cover of the NBA 2K16 Germany video game recently.

“I really appreciate NBA2k for putting me on the cover of 2k16 all over Germany!! That’s big time!!” Schroder tweeted Wednesday on the selection.


As a huge fan of Dennis's, I can honestly say...this is terrible news.

As if this kid's head wasn't already big enough.
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#27 » by MaceCase » Wed Aug 5, 2015 4:25 pm

I don't think getting a region specific videogame cover is going to make him go "Hollywood". What is he gonna do on the court? Yell out "Hey, Damian. You can't guard me, I'm on the cover of 2K in Germany"? Guys would laugh him off the court.
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#28 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:43 pm

DS getting some good publicity as the future face of German basketball:

Dennis Schröder: All about the basketball

Lack of confidence should not be a problem for the kid moving forward. (Not that it ever really was.)

Here's hoping all this additional hype and attention only serves to fuel him. Not make him unmanageable and stubborn.

I do believe he's ready skill-wise to be the starting PG. I'd dangle Teague and the Minny first rounder in talks to see if we could acquire a solid scoring wing. (Chandler Parsons + picks, Zach LeVine and Gorgui Dieng, Jabari Parker, Ben McLemore)

Ultimately, I think Dennis is ready to take the starting reins. He just a vet PG backing him and serving as mentor. And he needs to avoid additional injury.
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#29 » by PandaKidd » Tue Sep 8, 2015 4:11 pm

About as bad a 1st quarter as possible for Germany who trail Turkey 31-11. Schroder is 0-3, 2 assists, 3 turnovers


Ive seen some stats tweeted out, i think i saw DS had like 11 points vs SERBIA??? LOL Shouldnt he be dropping 20-30pts at will vs lesser talent?
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#30 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Sep 8, 2015 4:13 pm

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About as bad a 1st quarter as possible for Germany who trail Turkey 31-11. Schroder is 0-3, 2 assists, 3 turnovers


Ive seen some stats tweeted out, i think i saw DS had like 11 points vs SERBIA??? LOL Shouldnt he be dropping 20-30pts at will vs lesser talent?



You would think so. I haven't been able to watch the games.

But I hear he's no longer the 1st or 2nd option with Dirk and Tibor on the team doing the heavy lifting.
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#31 » by PandaKidd » Tue Sep 8, 2015 4:16 pm

yeah im not sure, I just see a lot of underwhelming stats.
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#32 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Sep 8, 2015 6:46 pm

PandaKidd wrote:yeah im not sure, I just see a lot of underwhelming stats.


The lead was slightly cut at half-time, with Turkey lead 41-24, but despite the efforts of Dirk Nowitzki (13 points, five rebounds) and Dennis Schröder (13 points, five assists) the hosts could not catch their Turkish opponents in the second-half.


His final numbers were...modest.

No denying that. Is Euro Ball 40 minutes or 48?

For the life of me...I can't find a Box Score anywhere...

Stupid ESPN.
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#33 » by PandaKidd » Tue Sep 8, 2015 7:01 pm

He finished with 24 pts i saw
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#34 » by D21 » Tue Sep 8, 2015 8:32 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:His final numbers were...modest.
No denying that. Is Euro Ball 40 minutes or 48?
For the life of me...I can't find a Box Score anywhere...


Remember it's 40 min, and that FIBA has less spacing possibility. Even Parker who is a NBA champion "scoring" PG is not playing at his NBA stats level.

Boxscores :
GERMANY - ICELAND : Link
GERMANY - SERBIA : Link
GERMANY - TURKEY : Link

Dennis stats : Link
16.7 PTS / 4.3 RBD / 5.3 AST / 4.3TO / 6.3 Drawn fouls
.516 @ 2pts / .182 @ 3pts

Problems are 2-11 @ 3pts, too much TO, but he's not "modest" :
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#35 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Sep 9, 2015 2:17 am

PandaKidd wrote:He finished with 24 pts i saw


D21 wrote:Remember it's 40 min, and that FIBA has less spacing possibility. Even Parker who is a NBA champion "scoring" PG is not playing at his NBA stats level.
Dennis stats : Link
16.7 PTS / 4.3 RBD / 5.3 AST / 4.3TO / 6.3 Drawn fouls
.516 @ 2pts / .182 @ 3pts

Problems are 2-11 @ 3pts, too much TO, but he's not "modest" :


Much obliged, fellas.

I've said it a few times this offseason, and I believe it even more today:

Dennis is ready to be the starting PG. He looked awful during the playoffs, particularly against WAS. But I've seen enough these last 12 months top feel comfortable handing over the reins. So long as a steady vet PG is on the roster.

This kid is special.

Based on the recap put together by Soaring Down South and Peachtree Hoops, it sounds like the Germany coach runs a very stagnant, isolation filled offense. This might explain the poor shooting and assist numbers.

Thanks for the correction fellas!!!

PS Good to see you posting again, D21.
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#36 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Sep 9, 2015 6:35 pm

D21 wrote:...he's not "modest" :

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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#37 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Sep 9, 2015 11:44 pm

For the second straight game Dennis Schroder scored a game-high in points – this time 29.

The Hawks guard was 11 of 20 from the field, including 1 of 2 from 3-point range, in his 34 minutes. He also added four rebounds, seven assists and six turnovers.
HERE

This puts his avg at about 20 ppg for the tourney. His turnovers are still high, but he clearly is able to score at a high level against moderate competition.

The kid is ready.

Though I bet his inexact passes and high turnover rate are driving both Dirk and the German Coach insane. :lol:


On a side note:

Danilo Gallinari led Italy with 25 points and nine rebounds.


Why didn't we sign this guy during the offseason? He's at least as good as THJ, Holliday and the corpse of Jason Richardson...
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#38 » by DaddyCool19 » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:47 am

Because he wasn't a Free Agent? His new contract kicks in after this season.

And Dennis is making some boneheaded plays every game. Has like 2 flashy moves he tries to pull every game which ends up as turnovers or he get's blocked at the rim because of it.

He is the first option as Dirk really lost his touch and is shooting like 35% from the field and it's even worse when he takes a three pointer. And Dennis called out the coach after the lost game against Italy even though he choked from the free throw line with 5 secs left in the game which allowed Gallo to tie the game and then they won it in OT.

Dennis also had 3 turnovers in overtime
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#39 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:57 pm

DaddyCool19 wrote:And Dennis is making some boneheaded plays every game. Has like 2 flashy moves he tries to pull every game which ends up as turnovers or he get's blocked at the rim because of it.

And Dennis called out the coach after the lost game against Italy even though he choked from the free throw line with 5 secs left in the game which allowed Gallo to tie the game and then they won it in OT.

Dennis also had 3 turnovers in overtime


Yeah, there is still some growing up to do. He requires strong leadership and mentoring to keep him reined in.
Putting his picture on the cover of a German videogame certainly isn't helping limit his diva like tendencies.


DaddyCool19 wrote:Because he wasn't a Free Agent? His new contract kicks in after this season.


:sigh:

I completely confused Danilo Gallinari with Marco Bellinelli. My. Bad.
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Re: A Big Summer for Dennis Schroeder 

Post#40 » by styLesdavis » Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:17 am

Jamaaliver wrote:
DaddyCool19 wrote:And Dennis is making some boneheaded plays every game. Has like 2 flashy moves he tries to pull every game which ends up as turnovers or he get's blocked at the rim because of it.

And Dennis called out the coach after the lost game against Italy even though he choked from the free throw line with 5 secs left in the game which allowed Gallo to tie the game and then they won it in OT.

Dennis also had 3 turnovers in overtime


Yeah, there is still some growing up to do. He requires strong leadership and mentoring to keep him reined in.
Putting his picture on the cover of a German videogame certainly isn't helping limit his diva like tendencies.


DaddyCool19 wrote:Because he wasn't a Free Agent? His new contract kicks in after this season.


:sigh:

I completely confused Danilo Gallinari with Marco Bellinelli. My. Bad.


German here.

Its really kind of confusing right now. Schroeder is by far the best point guard we ever had in germany but is also critizised a lot in the media and by the fans. Despite his opponents always wanting him to shot from the outside he is nearly able to go to the rim at will. The only real problem in his game are his turnovers and his inability to make his teammates better (Nowitzki is by far the best example - he plays way better when Dennis is not on the court).

His criticism against the coach was boneheaded. It is quite usual in europe to foul your opponent when you are up by three and there are about 20-24 seconds left. The reason the game went to overtime was the fact that Schroeder missed his first free throw attempt (and his last one against Spain which cost us the overtime).

When you sum up his play everyone has to admit that Schroeder is getting better and better and better. Turnovers will lower done as his age is going up. The only thing he needs to put real work in is his shot. Even though he trained with Kyle over the summer, it seems like his shot is as bad as ever (technically).

(Please excuse my bad language)

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