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Re: 2015: Packers/NFL Prediction Thread 

Post#21 » by rilamann » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:25 am

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rilamann wrote:I've felt that way since January and still don't know which Packer team we're going to get.



The safe play here is 11-5 with that 2 game variance +/-.

I have no clue either way this year. It all comes back to Rodgers supporting cast. If Ted's last 2 draft classes step up into impact players, then 13-3 and Super Bowl. If they don't this could be a 9-7 team if the defense can't stop the other team.

I'm going 10-6 only because I still don't feel like we've got a good front 7 on defense and we'll have a normal run of injuries to key guys.


After the shock of the Seattle game wore off I felt strongly that the game would either have a black cloud effect on the team where they are never quite the same and are never on that level where you would consider them a top tier contender.Or on the flip side I felt that the game could wake them up and the Rodgers/McCarthy era could end on a really strong note,where maybe they win 2 Super Bowls in these final 4 or 5 years where Rodgers is playing at an elite level.

I just don't think you can lose a game of that magnitude in that fashion and think that things will remain the same.Like I said the other day I feel that something is going to give,it could be good or it could be bad but something is going to give.

When I felt that way last January I was 50/50 on which way I though the Packers would go and I also thought that by week 1 I would firmly be on one side of the fence.14 hours before kickoff as I type this I am still 50/50.

That's just my personal feeling about the team but I also feel that if the Packers don't win the Super Bowl this season after what happened last season I am convinced Aaron Rodgers retires with the one the ring he already has.

You have Aaron Rodgers in the heart of his prime,you have a pretty solid team around him and after the Seattle game you have all the motivation you could ever ask for to get your redemption.Barring Aaron Rodgers getting hurt,if the Packers can't win it this season it's probably not happening next season either or anytime in the future with this current cast.

I also think that anything short of at least an appearance in the Super Bowl this season and Rodgers joins Peyton Manning with the ''great regular season QB'' label.

It's a make or break season IMO for this current era of Packers football.
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Re: 2015: Packers/NFL Prediction Thread 

Post#22 » by rilamann » Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:56 am

I wish I could wait 24 hours to make my prediction because while I am 50/50 right now about the Packers either being a 9-7 black cloud team or a 14-2 team that had it's fire lit in Seattle last January I think I will be able to get a pretty good idea of which way the team is going even after just one game.Especially after next week against Seattle.

I don't normally judge a team on their first game of the season,I'm not one of those fans.But I think if this team is a coiled cobra ready to strike its venom into the rest of the league you'll see it right off the bat week 1.I also think that if the team got shook from the Seattle game and is going to have the black cloud effect you will see that right off the bat too.I just feel really strongly that this won't be the same old 11-5 type of team that has a puncher's chance in January because of Aaron Rodgers.

With all that said I am going over to the coiled cobra side of the fence,that sounds dangerous and with this Packer team's issues not relating to talent it could be a dangerous prediction.By ''issues'' I mean the above the neck stuff,don't worry I won't get into all of that right now.

But here's a few reasons why I am going in that direction.

Aaron Rodgers is one of the best QBs to ever step on an NFL field and he is in the prime of his prime with added motivation after the way last season ended.

Mike McCarthy giving up play calling,not so much that in itself but it showed that McCarthy was admitting the approach needed some change.That in itself could be big.

Eddie Lacy.It sucks Jordy is out for the season but now the Packers will (hopefully) be forced to use Lacy properly and by properly I mean use him more and maybe stop giving his goal line touches to Kuhn like we saw in the Seattle game.Kind of goes along with the approach change.I think Lacy is one of the best backs in the league and while the Packers will never be a ''running team'' with Rodgers in his prime (and rightfully so) I don't think that the team has used Lacy properly up to this point and taken full advantage of his talents.I think that might change this season.Oh and more screens please.

We have a bunch of guys on our defense who are ''just guys'' (Neal,Perry,Raji ect) that are free agents,not bad players but they're nothing special.But put those type of guys in contract years and you might see some career years.How do you win in the NFL? Get a great QB and a bunch of ''guys'' in contract years.

Despite how hard the Packers choked in Seattle I think that they proved to themselves in that game how good they really are and how good they can be.Maybe more importantly that game also proved to them that you have to stay aggressive for 60 minutes and not take your foot off the gas.I think they have the confidence and motivation along with a valuable lesson learned.

One intangible that could prove big is getting both Dallas and Seattle in Green Bay in the regular season.Both teams are likely your two biggest competitors in the NFC and for HFA.Getting them both head to head and both at home gives the Packers an opportunity to have an edge in the important the race for HFA.


And lastly the NFC simply isn't all that good and the Packers have the best QB in the league.There's a few good teams but other than Seattle there really isn't a team that scares me if the Packers are on top of their game and Rodgers plays like an MVP.The Cowboys are still pretty good but I just can't see them being the same team we seen last year now that they no longer have Murray.Eagles don't scare me,no one in our division or the NFC south scare me.

Like I said before,when you take all these factors into consideration along with the fact Rodgers is in his prime, if the Packers can't get it done this season we probably need to start getting used to the idea of Rodgers retiring with one ring.You have the team,you have the motivation and experience now get it done.
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Re: 2015: Packers/NFL Prediction Thread 

Post#23 » by rilamann » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:39 am

Here's my Packer and NFC Predictions.

Week 1 @Bears - W
Week 2 vs Seahawks - W
Week 3 vs Chiefs - W
Week 4 @49ers - W
Week 5 vs Rams - W
Week 6 vs Chargers - W
Week 7 - Bye
Week 8 @Broncos - L
Week 9 @Panthers - W
Week 10 vs Lions - W
Week 11 @Vikings - L
Week 12 vs Bears - W
Week 13 @Lions - W
Week 14 vs Cowboys - W
Week 15 @Raiders - W
Week 16 @Cardinals - L
Week 17 vs Vikings - W

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Looking for a statement game week 1 against the Bears.I really want to see the Packers come out strong and look like a team on a mission in this season.

The Packers absolutely cannot lose to the Seahawks week 2,I don't care if Crosby has to doink a 55 yard FG off the upright to win by one with no time left.The Packers losing to Seattle could be disastrous for their mental health.Even though it's only week 2 it's by far the biggest game of the Packers regular season.

The Raider game week 15 scares me,don't want it to be one of those ''we beat the Seahawks and Chiefs earlier in the season to put ourselves in position to get HFA but we were the # 3 seed because we lost to the Raiders''.

Love the James Jones signing,I think he will contribute quite a bit.

Really high on Adams,I think Montgomery will show some flashes,high on him too.

Would love to see Lacy get more touches especially with Jordy out,he doesn't have to in Green Bay but I think Lacy could carry an offense.I think he is that good.

Richard Rodgers is a guy to watch

Defense worries me but I think they'll be ok,really high HCD at least when it comes to play making.Excited to see how the secondary overall develops during the season.Front 7 is just a bunch of ''guys'' with Clay and Peppers but it's a fairly solid group.I think having guys like Neal,Daniels,Perry and Raji all in contract years might prove to be a factor in them all having really solid seasons and that would be huge.

Special teams has me nervous as hell.

It's a big season for the Rodgers/McCarthy era.I think they learned from the Seattle game and will be on a mission in 2015 and close the deal this season.Rodgers is too good to be in the league 10 seasons with only 1 ring.

NFC North

Packers 13-3
Vikings 7-9
Lions 6-10
Bears 5-11

NFC East

Cowboys 11-5
Eagles 10-6
Giants 8-8
Redskins 4-12

NFC South

Saints 9-7
Panthers 7-9
Falcons 6-10
Buccaneers 4-12

NFC West

Seahawks 11-5
Rams 10-6
Cardinals 9-7
49ers 3-13

1.Packers 13-3
2.Cowboys 11-5 (tie breaker with Seattle head to head)
3.Seahawks 11-5
4.Saints 9-7
5.Eagles 10-6
6.Rams 10-6

Wild Card

Eagles over Saints
Seahawks over Rams

Divisional

Packers over Eagles
Seahawks over Cowboys

NFC Championship

Packers over Seahawks

AFC Championship

Colts over Dolphins

Super Bowl

Packers over Colts
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Re: RE: Re: 2015: Packers/NFL Prediction Thread 

Post#24 » by HKPackFan » Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:57 am

rilamann wrote:I wish I could wait 24 hours to make my prediction because while I am 50/50 right now about the Packers either being a 9-7 black cloud team or a 14-2 team that had it's fire lit in Seattle last January I think I will be able to get a pretty good idea of which way the team is going even after just one game.Especially after next week against Seattle.

I don't normally judge a team on their first game of the season,I'm not one of those fans.But I think if this team is a coiled cobra ready to strike its venom into the rest of the league you'll see it right off the bat week 1.I also think that if the team got shook from the Seattle game and is going to have the black cloud effect you will see that right off the bat too.I just feel really strongly that this won't be the same old 11-5 type of team that has a puncher's chance in January because of Aaron Rodgers.

With all that said I am going over to the coiled cobra side of the fence,that sounds dangerous and with this Packer team's issues not relating to talent it could be a dangerous prediction.By ''issues'' I mean the above the neck stuff,don't worry I won't get into all of that right now.

But here's a few reasons why I am going in that direction.

Aaron Rodgers is one of the best QBs to ever step on an NFL field and he is in the prime of his prime with added motivation after the way last season ended.

Mike McCarthy giving up play calling,not so much that in itself but it showed that McCarthy was admitting the approach needed some change.That in itself could be big.

Eddie Lacy.It sucks Jordy is out for the season but now the Packers will (hopefully) be forced to use Lacy properly and by properly I mean use him more and maybe stop giving his goal line touches to Kuhn like we saw in the Seattle game.Kind of goes along with the approach change.I think Lacy is one of the best backs in the league and while the Packers will never be a ''running team'' with Rodgers in his prime (and rightfully so) I don't think that the team has used Lacy properly up to this point and taken full advantage of his talents.I think that might change this season.Oh and more screens please.

We have a bunch of guys on our defense who are ''just guys'' (Neal,Perry,Raji ect) that are free agents,not bad players but they're nothing special.But put those type of guys in contract years and you might see some career years.How do you win in the NFL? Get a great QB and a bunch of ''guys'' in contract years.

Despite how hard the Packers choked in Seattle I think that they proved to themselves in that game how good they really are and how good they can be.Maybe more importantly that game also proved to them that you have to stay aggressive for 60 minutes and not take your foot off the gas.I think they have the confidence and motivation along with a valuable lesson learned.

One intangible that could prove big is getting both Dallas and Seattle in Green Bay in the regular season.Both teams are likely your two biggest competitors in the NFC and for HFA.Getting them both head to head and both at home gives the Packers an opportunity to have an edge in the important the race for HFA.


And lastly the NFC simply isn't all that good and the Packers have the best QB in the league.There's a few good teams but other than Seattle there really isn't a team that scares me if the Packers are on top of their game and Rodgers plays like an MVP.The Cowboys are still pretty good but I just can't see them being the same team we seen last year now that they no longer have Murray.Eagles don't scare me,no one in our division or the NFC south scare me.

Like I said before,when you take all these factors into consideration along with the fact Rodgers is in his prime, if the Packers can't get it done this season we probably need to start getting used to the idea of Rodgers retiring with one ring.You have the team,you have the motivation and experience now get it done.


I would be horribly disappointed if they start out sluggish the first few weeks and lose a couple games early on but I am mindful that it's important to play your best in November through January when the playoff push is really key.

I like the coiled snake analogy sounds like the 96 team that just ran over everyone with something to prove.

Yet again in 2010 it took them getting hot come the final stretch to get in and staying hot throughout the post season.

Two very different ways the season unfolded.

It seems in past seasons the team has gained momentum as the season goes on maybe it's because of all the youth that has to get their feet wet and has growing pains first couple of months of the season. I can give Dick and davante as examples of that.

But maybe this season is different, as has been we documented we are returning starters at almost every position and even returning a lot of backup players. To your point we have a bunch of guys in contract years, well that means they've been in the system for 3-4 years now, they should be reaching their potential at this point and no longer having those growing pains.

With very few needs for rookie contributions this is a team that is more mature than previous years and should be able to hit the ground running.

They had a crappy preseason so I could see some rust tomorrow but I would expect by week 2 they should be hitting on all cylinders.

So while of course it's best to peak during December this is a team that should be peaking all year based on the experience and maturity of the starters.
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Re: 2015: Packers/NFL Prediction Thread 

Post#25 » by WiscoKing13 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:46 pm

I'll predict record wise 13-3

I think the offensive run game will improve over last year, while the passing takes a small step back without Jordy. I'll speak more about the unsung hero's. I think Richard Rodgers and Adams have big years for us and are the guys that pick up Jordy's slack. Also think Montgomery starts out slow as all of the packers rookie WR's do, but makes an impact similar to Adams at the end the year.

Defensively I think they climb a few spots in the rankings but nothing substantial. We still lack a nickel or dime ILB, I think theirs a small chance that Palmer or Richardson could do well in that spot, but I'm not banking on it. I think once the suspensions are over we'll have the best D line we'll have since the super bowl with loads of depth if healthy and a better pass rush from the line. The secondary will probably take a step back, we'll see some awful overages with three rookie corners now on the roster and goodson only have 1 year under his belt.

Special teams I think the return came becomes dynamic with Hyde and Montgomery back there and Crosby has another solid year. Punting will be awful, theirs no signs that point this improving with the preseason. Not going to predict if they improve because we couldn't tell from the preseason with all the people not on the 53 on the roster, but I really lack confidence in Cook. He doesn't seem to be the answer and I hope I'm wrong on that.

This is a championship caliber team and we should be once again competing, weather they win it or not no one can tell you but they have the players to make it happen.
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