Lakers Seriously Considering Signing MWP

[tugs]

Meh. When we sucked at PG and Arenas worked out with us nothing happened.

[FrozenIceCubes]

Meh. When we sucked at PG and Arenas worked out with us nothing happened.

different to compare both situations... Arenas was working out but wasn't thought to be teaching any of the players. Peace is working out with a lot of the players and his main objective is to teach Randle during games and practice.. I also think he could still contribute if given 10-15MPG.

[ArC_man]

I'm gonna play devil's advocate, I think the mentorship role is being overrated. How many mentors does a young player need before his brain gets oversaturated? We already brought in Bass to play that role for Randle and Kobe has been mentoring Randle since day 1. A kid so internally motivated like Randle doesn't 3 guys to babysit him.

[FrozenIceCubes]

I'm gonna play devil's advocate, I think the mentorship role is being overrated. How many mentors does a young player need before his brain gets oversaturated? We already brought in Bass to play that role for Randle and Kobe has been mentoring Randle since day 1. A kid so internally motivated like Randle doesn't 3 guys to babysit him.

Yeah it seems like there is enough mentorship for Randle with the Bass addition don't underestimate Bass and his physical tools.. It diff seems like Peace is being bought in to fill a void ... These players aren't from a school project.. I think the Lakers are just trying to collect depth so they can have a easier time to pull off a big trade so the team can still have depth on the team once other pieces are moved.

[FrozenIceCubes]

Doc Rivers mentioned today that he's seen MWP work out and has looked very impressive according to him.

[Laker_Kid]

i would rather have metta than kelly or sacre. even if he doesnt play a single minute.

[rayofsunshine]

Good tell Doc to sign him.

[TylersLakers]

I'm all in favour of signing Ron as long as it doesn't cost us bringing someone like Frazier onto the roster. That's literally the only negative I can think to bringing him in. He's great in the locker room and he'll be great with the younger players. Will add some toughness to this team in practice even if he doesn't play a minute in a game. Also, with our lack of big man depth, he's someone that can step in and play the 3 or 4. Against teams that go small, due to his strength and post D, we could even plug him at the 5 for stretches. We already knew this, but what a transformation story Ron has been.

If we can't find a trading partner for Kelly or Sacre, may as well just waive them.

PG: Russell/ Huertas/
SG: Clarkson/ Williams/ Frazier
SF: Bryant/ Young/ A Brown/ World Peace
PF: Bass/ Randle/ Nance Jr
C: Hibbert/ Black/

^^ Leaves one spot open for someone like Upshaw or just incase we get injuries and have to bring a 10 day on.

[kblo247]

Another line of thought is that someone who had behavior issues and mental health issues, yet overcame them to be a force and win it all, might be what they want in both the ear of Hibbert and Upshaw. Roughing up Randle to he learns to be a man on D and relating to Kobe are also bonuses

[Slava]

Another line of thought is that someone who had behavior issues and mental health issues, yet overcame them to be a force and win it all, might be what they want in both the ear of Hibbert and Upshaw. Roughing up Randle to he learns to be a man on D and relating to Kobe are also bonuses

Hibbert's issues are confidence related, Upshaw's troubles stem from substance abuse. For all his troubles, MWP never lacked confidence or failed a drug test. At his age, he is just taking up a roster spot that we could gamble on someone else.

[kblo247]

Another line of thought is that someone who had behavior issues and mental health issues, yet overcame them to be a force and win it all, might be what they want in both the ear of Hibbert and Upshaw. Roughing up Randle to he learns to be a man on D and relating to Kobe are also bonuses

Hibbert's issues are confidence related, Upshaw's troubles stem from substance abuse. For all his troubles, MWP never lacked confidence or failed a drug test. At his age, he is just taking up a roster spot that we could gamble on someone else.

You don't improve a young team by filling it with 6-8 young guys. That's never worked, it's why teams like Phili and Sacramento have sucked. You also don't rely on guys who have never been good and have no actual nba skills (Kelly and Sacre).

Russel Clarkson Kobe Bass Hibbert
Huertas Lou Nick Randle Black
Brown Nance Metta Upshaw

That's what the team should look like. You don't suddenly learn to not get hurt, to take care of your body, to not be one of the worst defensive guys on the team at either forward spot, to rebound, and how to shoot (Kelly) if you've already shown you won't put in the work. You don't suddenly become a rotation player when you can't defend, score, or alter shots down low and have no strength or explosion (Sacre). Those two out right suck and are losers, who you don't need around.

I personally like Jabari enough to hope he makes the 15th spot but Mitch doesn't favor him at all. Guys like Frazier and Holmes are going to be d lGue bound anyway which is why they get 50k to show up at camp.

[kblo247]

Ron never failed a drug test but he has gotten suspended multiple times, he has got banished from a team before, and he admittedly used to drink henny at half time in Chicago as a Bull. He's had his share of demons and overcome them all. He still has more tangible talent than a handful of our guys if you take mind he's been practicing with them and obviously is impressing somewhere. And he's a fan favorite and champion, just like when they brought Ac or Scott back for a year

[Marionettetc]

Another line of thought is that someone who had behavior issues and mental health issues, yet overcame them to be a force and win it all, might be what they want in both the ear of Hibbert and Upshaw. Roughing up Randle to he learns to be a man on D and relating to Kobe are also bonuses

Hibbert's issues are confidence related, Upshaw's troubles stem from substance abuse. For all his troubles, MWP never lacked confidence or failed a drug test. At his age, he is just taking up a roster spot that we could gamble on someone else.

You don't improve a young team by filling it with 6-8 young guys. That's never worked, it's why teams like Phili and Sacramento have sucked. You also don't rely on guys who have never been good and have no actual nba skills (Kelly and Sacre).

Russel Clarkson Kobe Bass Hibbert
Huertas Lou Nick Randle Black
Brown Nance Metta Upshaw

That's what the team should look like. You don't suddenly learn to not get hurt, to take care of your body, to not be one of the worst defensive guys on the team at either forward spot, to rebound, and how to shoot (Kelly) if you've already shown you won't put in the work. You don't suddenly become a rotation player when you can't defend, score, or alter shots down low and have no strength or explosion (Sacre). Those two out right suck and are losers, who you don't need around.

I personally like Jabari enough to hope he makes the 15th spot but Mitch doesn't favor him at all. Guys like Frazier and Holmes are going to be d lGue bound anyway which is why they get 50k to show up at camp.

Yeah, in addition to this - professional basketball teams are a product and can't be run like fantasy/nba2k. Some of ya'll think you can stick 50 rookies on a team and expect to make it through a season a live. There isn't enough time to develop the 13th, 14th, 15th guy on the bench and despite Artest's shortcomings as a player, he's still much more valuable than whatever rec league scrub would be on the end of our bench. Remember, we won enough games last year to get the 2nd pick, we don't need more trash. We need more older professionals to make sure these kids don't develop bad habits.

[Slava]

Hibbert, Bass, Kobe, Lou seem like enough veterans to me. Hell even Rob Sacre is a veteran at this point.

[kblo247]

You're ignoring the teams who teach young players have vets on the bench who have won. Tony Parker had a guy like Steve Kerr behind himself and Speedy Claxton when he won his first and became a nba starter. Kobe when he came in had Scott up there not just Eddie Jones and Ceballos. Fisher earned his time and tricks from Harper and Shaw. The heat kept Juwan Howard around for a reason. Metta's ability to compete, win, and play at a high level yearly in his career is something no vet aside from Kobe can bring. He can raise the stakes and push guys like Randle, Nance, Nick. You never know when a guy like him comes in handy, just see Jason Terry or Prigioni last year or the impact Kidd with a foot in the ground and a two years removed from retirement Sheed had on the Knicks years ago. I can even point to JO developing around the jail blazers which were a bunch of vets

And calling Sacre a vet proves my point, you need a real one or two to mold these guys and make the losses unacceptable.even the wolves realized they couldn't be stupid enough to think lotto talent and youth will win and teach itself ... Prince, Miller, and KG


You're developing 7 guys with Russell, Clarkson, Randle, Nance, Black, Upshaw, and Brown ... You would have to be a total video game ugh to try and develop 8-10 and expect them to learn anything about winning

[Edrees]

You guys also need to realize Ron has Kobe's respect so if Ron would be another voice to call kobe out on the court if needed.

[TKainZero]

At first, I thought this was absurd...
But weirdly... Over time...

I think I can buy it now...so many reasons to do it...

He and Kobe are friendly...
Desperate need for sf depth
He can play small ball 4...
He will be the teams enforcer...

I'm in