Subway Series Part 2 (Yankees at Mets)

[nykballa2k4]

As for the Mets, this right now is their chance if they ever had one before. Cespedes is hitting like Bonds in 01, and they have the pitching to go up against anyone in the league right now. Not getting Carlos Gomez turned out to be a huge blessing in disguise. I've never HATED the Mets, as a Yankee fan, simply because they've been that much of a threat and they play in a different league. I'm interested to see how far they get this season.

Sure is. Mets won't be any better next year tbh.

- Next year, the Mets are likely losing Cespedes, Murphy, K. Johnson, and Uribe.
- Wright isn't going to get any healthier. He's going to remain the slap hitter he is now.
- Plus, Duda has to get a new contract this off season.
- Clippard and Colon's contract expire next year too.

we could get a surprise and actually pay Cespedes. I think if we win it all this year, or come close the pressure will be on management (and financial incentive) Conforto will be a year better and our stud CFer will be healthy again. Also will have a full year of the 5 kids on the mound. Niese could wind up being a long relief next season.

[offense]

F da mets

[Stannis]

As for the Mets, this right now is their chance if they ever had one before. Cespedes is hitting like Bonds in 01, and they have the pitching to go up against anyone in the league right now. Not getting Carlos Gomez turned out to be a huge blessing in disguise. I've never HATED the Mets, as a Yankee fan, simply because they've been that much of a threat and they play in a different league. I'm interested to see how far they get this season.

Sure is. Mets won't be any better next year tbh.

- Next year, the Mets are likely losing Cespedes, Murphy, K. Johnson, and Uribe.
- Wright isn't going to get any healthier. He's going to remain the slap hitter he is now.
- Plus, Duda has to get a new contract this off season.
- Clippard and Colon's contract expire next year too.

we could get a surprise and actually pay Cespedes. I think if we win it all this year, or come close the pressure will be on management (and financial incentive) Conforto will be a year better and our stud CFer will be healthy again. Also will have a full year of the 5 kids on the mound. Niese could wind up being a long relief next season.

tbh, going further in the playoffs and Cespedes killing it, will make it harder if anything. You are going to have more teams throwing more money at him.

That's true about Conforto. His jump from AA to the MLB was a pleasant surprise.

Lagares still hasn't shown any upside on the plate. He's a pretty weak hitter. I know fielding his is biggest strength, but they said he might require TJ surgery. It's why his arm hasn't been there this year. A CF with a damaged arm is no good. And plus, he's had some leg injuries that toned his speed down.

Niese is on contract till 2019 making 5/6m a year. That's a little much for a relief pitcher, who won't likely be a good one. I see him starting next year and Mets will use a 6 man rotation once Wheeler is completely healthy. Then, they maybe trade Niese in the 2017 season.

But... I'm getting way ahead of myself. Those are problems for later. I just hope this team makes the playoffs and the players go all out.

[riter]

As for the Mets, this right now is their chance if they ever had one before. Cespedes is hitting like Bonds in 01, and they have the pitching to go up against anyone in the league right now. Not getting Carlos Gomez turned out to be a huge blessing in disguise. I've never HATED the Mets, as a Yankee fan, simply because they've been that much of a threat and they play in a different league. I'm interested to see how far they get this season.

Sure is. Mets won't be any better next year tbh.

- Next year, the Mets are likely losing Cespedes, Murphy, K. Johnson, and Uribe.
- Wright isn't going to get any healthier. He's going to remain the slap hitter he is now.
- Plus, Duda has to get a new contract this off season.
- Clippard and Colon's contract expire next year too.

http://nypost.com/2015/09/16/yoenis-cespedes-talks-playoffs-life-in-nyc-and-future-with-mets/

"As a matter of fact, Cespedes revealed, he initiated the process that led to his agents and the Mets altering the language in his contract so the team wouldn’t essentially be locked out of the free-agency sweepstakes if the two sides couldn’t come to an agreement within five days of the World Series’ completion."

I'm hoping this means that we are not likely losing him---so he will be our new Wright, and Wright doesn't need to be our best player for the whole season. He can handle that for a few years.
If we can keep Murphy(yeah, I know), resign Duda, and find another closer...this could be a great 3 to 5 year run.

[Stannis]

As for the Mets, this right now is their chance if they ever had one before. Cespedes is hitting like Bonds in 01, and they have the pitching to go up against anyone in the league right now. Not getting Carlos Gomez turned out to be a huge blessing in disguise. I've never HATED the Mets, as a Yankee fan, simply because they've been that much of a threat and they play in a different league. I'm interested to see how far they get this season.

Sure is. Mets won't be any better next year tbh.

- Next year, the Mets are likely losing Cespedes, Murphy, K. Johnson, and Uribe.
- Wright isn't going to get any healthier. He's going to remain the slap hitter he is now.
- Plus, Duda has to get a new contract this off season.
- Clippard and Colon's contract expire next year too.

http://nypost.com/2015/09/16/yoenis-cespedes-talks-playoffs-life-in-nyc-and-future-with-mets/

"As a matter of fact, Cespedes revealed, he initiated the process that led to his agents and the Mets altering the language in his contract so the team wouldn’t essentially be locked out of the free-agency sweepstakes if the two sides couldn’t come to an agreement within five days of the World Series’ completion."

I'm hoping this means that we are not likely losing him---so he will be our new Wright, and Wright doesn't need to be our best player for the whole season. He can handle that for a few years.
If we can keep Murphy(yeah, I know), resign Duda, and find another closer...this could be a great 3 to 5 year run.

Yea, I'm a little hopeful too. They said he truly does like being on a good team and is more motivated. They said he was very upset when the As traded him to the Red Sox last season. So that filters out the bad teams offering him money. But still leaves good big spender teams like the Dodgers and Yanks making strong offers.

Retaining Murphy would be great. He isn't a pretty fielder, but he can play all those infield positions. And he always gives runs when the team needs them. But I got a feeling he's going to get a pretty decent contract from another team that the Mets won't match.

I'm confident we can resign Duda. I think he's going to get a Wilpon-friendly short term deal.

[nykballa2k4]

Sure is. Mets won't be any better next year tbh.

- Next year, the Mets are likely losing Cespedes, Murphy, K. Johnson, and Uribe.
- Wright isn't going to get any healthier. He's going to remain the slap hitter he is now.
- Plus, Duda has to get a new contract this off season.
- Clippard and Colon's contract expire next year too.

we could get a surprise and actually pay Cespedes. I think if we win it all this year, or come close the pressure will be on management (and financial incentive) Conforto will be a year better and our stud CFer will be healthy again. Also will have a full year of the 5 kids on the mound. Niese could wind up being a long relief next season.

tbh, going further in the playoffs and Cespedes killing it, will make it harder if anything. You are going to have more teams throwing more money at him.

That's true about Conforto. His jump from AA to the MLB was a pleasant surprise.

Lagares still hasn't shown any upside on the plate. He's a pretty weak hitter. I know fielding his is biggest strength, but they said he might require TJ surgery. It's why his arm hasn't been there this year. A CF with a damaged arm is no good. And plus, he's had some leg injuries that toned his speed down.

Niese is on contract till 2019 making 5/6m a year. That's a little much for a relief pitcher, who won't likely be a good one. I see him starting next year and Mets will use a 6 man rotation once Wheeler is completely healthy. Then, they maybe trade Niese in the 2017 season.

But... I'm getting way ahead of myself. Those are problems for later. I just hope this team makes the playoffs and the players go all out.

Niese is a fine pitcher, only one year older than DeGrom. It is too early to say what he is/isn't Scott Kazmir had the arc of very good, sub-par, then very good again. If your fears are true, we'd be better off keeping John and trading a hot arm because we'd get a lot more in the bat department. We have some good young bats. We just waste so much money on stop-gap level guys (Granderson, Cuddyer) Both of them are really paying big in the club house for sure, but in terms on on-field talent, we'd be better off next season with Cespedes, Conforto, Lagares (if he gets surgery). He doesn't have to hit for pop, but he needs to bring some speed.

[MaseInYourFace]

I'll say it again Mets fans are terrible winners. You guys get annoying real fast. Win a couple of WS and get back to me and then you can talk all the sh** you want. Not referencing anyone here specifically, talking more about what I have experienced in general. With all due respect to the classy Mets fans here, I hope the Yankees wipe the field with the Mets this weekend.

[MaseInYourFace]

Skankees will catch a break this weekend. The Mets are just playing out the rest of the season trying to get ready for the playoffs. Yes, it would be nice to catch the Dodgers for home field advantage, but whatever. The Skanks, however, are fighting for their lives.

Nice way to cover yourself if Mets get spanked this weekend. Mind you the Mets played in the worst division this season. They've definitely been padding a bit.

[MaseInYourFace]

Sure is. Mets won't be any better next year tbh.

- Next year, the Mets are likely losing Cespedes, Murphy, K. Johnson, and Uribe.
- Wright isn't going to get any healthier. He's going to remain the slap hitter he is now.
- Plus, Duda has to get a new contract this off season.
- Clippard and Colon's contract expire next year too.

http://nypost.com/2015/09/16/yoenis-cespedes-talks-playoffs-life-in-nyc-and-future-with-mets/

"As a matter of fact, Cespedes revealed, he initiated the process that led to his agents and the Mets altering the language in his contract so the team wouldn’t essentially be locked out of the free-agency sweepstakes if the two sides couldn’t come to an agreement within five days of the World Series’ completion."

I'm hoping this means that we are not likely losing him---so he will be our new Wright, and Wright doesn't need to be our best player for the whole season. He can handle that for a few years.
If we can keep Murphy(yeah, I know), resign Duda, and find another closer...this could be a great 3 to 5 year run.

Yea, I'm a little hopeful too. They said he truly does like being on a good team and is more motivated. They said he was very upset when the As traded him to the Red Sox last season. So that filters out the bad teams offering him money. But still leaves good big spender teams like the Dodgers and Yanks making strong offers.

Retaining Murphy would be great. He isn't a pretty fielder, but he can play all those infield positions. And he always gives runs when the team needs them. But I got a feeling he's going to get a pretty decent contract from another team that the Mets won't match.

I'm confident we can resign Duda. I think he's going to get a Wilpon-friendly short term deal.

Unless Yanks make some trades I'd be surprised if they go after Cespedes. They have Judge waiting in the minors who profiles to beast and they have money tied up already in outfield.

[HarthorneWingo]

Skankees will catch a break this weekend. The Mets are just playing out the rest of the season trying to get ready for the playoffs. Yes, it would be nice to catch the Dodgers for home field advantage, but whatever. The Skanks, however, are fighting for their lives.

Nice way to cover yourself if Mets get spanked this weekend. Mind you the Mets played in the worst division this season. They've definitely been padding a bit.

[F N 11]

Tanaka is in that zone right now. He is going to Mow down the Mets. 2.36 ERA last 3 starts.

[iAdoreeKnicks]

Yankee fan here, but i do not see any chance the yankees win this series. And Fuq the Jays.

[HarthorneWingo]

Skankees will catch a break this weekend. The Mets are just playing out the rest of the season trying to get ready for the playoffs. Yes, it would be nice to catch the Dodgers for home field advantage, but whatever. The Skanks, however, are fighting for their lives.

Nice way to cover yourself if Mets get spanked this weekend. Mind you the Mets played in the worst division this season. They've definitely been padding a bit.

No ARod or Texiera.

[HarthorneWingo]

Tanaka is in that zone right now. He is going to Mow down the Mets. 2.36 ERA last 3 starts.

Matz is going to take him deep.

[F N 11]

Tanaka is in that zone right now. He is going to Mow down the Mets. 2.36 ERA last 3 starts.

Matz is going to take him deep.

Watch our Ace step up. Its what he does.

[HarthorneWingo]

Tanaka is in that zone right now. He is going to Mow down the Mets. 2.36 ERA last 3 starts.

Matz is going to take him deep.

Watch our Ace step up. Its what he does.

He's never faced a hitter like Steven Matz.

All joking aside. When Matz pitched his first game at Citi Field, his high school baseball coach from Ward Melville went to the game not to see him pitch, but to see him hit.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/steven-matz-s-family-celebrates-his-breakout-game-at-citi-field-1.10589413

[Stannis]

Matz is going to take him deep.

Watch our Ace step up. Its what he does.

He's never faced a hitter like Steven Matz.

All joking aside. When Matz pitched his first game at Citi Field, his high school baseball coach from Ward Melville went to the game not to see him pitch, but to see him hit.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/steven-matz-s-family-celebrates-his-breakout-game-at-citi-field-1.10589413

I don't think Matz has faced a good team yet. So I'm excited to see what he can do against the Yanks.

[Yankeeknickfan]

Yankees have to score here. Get off to an early lead.

[Yankeeknickfan]

Skankees will catch a break this weekend. The Mets are just playing out the rest of the season trying to get ready for the playoffs. Yes, it would be nice to catch the Dodgers for home field advantage, but whatever. The Skanks, however, are fighting for their lives.

Nice way to cover yourself if Mets get spanked this weekend. Mind you the Mets played in the worst division this season. They've definitely been padding a bit.

No ARod or Texiera.

Arod is going to hit a PH homer, and Bird the replacement for Tex is going to hit a huge homerun.

[Stannis]

Not looking good for Matz. He's going to be near 50 pitches to begin the 3rd. He needs a 1-2-3.