Suns Offseason Thread V: I Am My Brother's Kieffer

bigfoot · Post #1221 » by **bigfoot** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:41 pm

Media day in exactly one week ... and I will be on the road unable to listen to what's happening.

jcsunsfan · Post #1222 » by **jcsunsfan** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:55 pm

I don't think Kieff will be traded until sometime in the regular season, and maybe not until the assault thing is resolved.

Saberestar · Post #1223 » by **Saberestar** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:26 pm

Yahoo Sources: Minnesota progressing on contract buyout with former No. 1 pick Anthony Bennett. He would be free agent if clears waivers.

Cheap option with potential to become an starter in the future.

Stix · Post #1224 » by **Stix** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:48 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Yahoo Sources: Minnesota progressing on contract buyout with former No. 1 pick Anthony Bennett. He would be free agent if clears waivers.

Cheap option with potential to become an starter in the future.

He's hot trash... I mean, he's gotta be if they are buying him out. You mean to tell me they couldn't even find a trade for this guy?

Looks like the worst #1 pick of all time.

jcsunsfan · Post #1225 » by **jcsunsfan** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:11 pm

Zero Tolerance wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
Yahoo Sources: Minnesota progressing on contract buyout with former No. 1 pick Anthony Bennett. He would be free agent if clears waivers.

Cheap option with potential to become an starter in the future.

He's hot trash... I mean, he's gotta be if they are buying him out. You mean to tell me they couldn't even find a trade for this guy?

Looks like the worst #1 pick of all time.

He be worth a look, especially as a free agent pick up. As far as worst #1 picks, Kwame Brown and Michael Olowakandi are going to be tough to beat.

Damkac · Post #1226 » by **Damkac** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:14 pm

Markieff for Bennett! :wink:

phrazbit · Post #1227 » by **phrazbit** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:24 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
Zero Tolerance wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Cheap option with potential to become an starter in the future.

He's hot trash... I mean, he's gotta be if they are buying him out. You mean to tell me they couldn't even find a trade for this guy?

Looks like the worst #1 pick of all time.

He be worth a look, especially as a free agent pick up. As far as worst #1 picks, Kwame Brown and Michael Olowakandi are going to be tough to beat.

I dunno, those guys not only played our their rookie deals in full but got multi-year deals afterwards. Right now Bennett is has a huuuuge gap just to catch up to those guys.

As far as him being worth a gander, I gotta disagree. I cannot see how he makes it. He has no interior game at all, he cannot rebound, he is strictly an out-side of the paint "big" but he is a really poor shooter from that range. He is also waaaaay too slow to defend on the wing and undersized to defend on the interior.

Cleveland's FO was insane when they made that pick. Virtually no one had him pegged as a top 5 pick, let alone number 1, many sites had him on the edge of the lotto, and that was when the draft was already considered historically weak.

After Minnesota buys him out he will probably get picked up for the minimum by someone, virtually never see that court and by 2017 he will never be seen again in the NBA other than "Biggest draft bust" montages.

Post #1228 » by **batsmasher** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:02 am

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Nando88 · Post #1229 » by **Nando88** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:07 am

Or we sign him and becomes the GOAT!!

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thamadkant · Post #1230 » by **thamadkant** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:02 am

Suns should try to get Harrison Barnes, can play small ball PF, also makes the Warriors weaker.

Maybe next season when he is a free agent.

RunDogGun · Post #1231 » by **RunDogGun** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:34 am

Saberestar wrote:
Yahoo Sources: Minnesota progressing on contract buyout with former No. 1 pick Anthony Bennett. He would be free agent if clears waivers.

Cheap option with potential to become an starter in the future.

There are a few things I like about him, from what limited I've seen him. I really liked the trainer both he and Shabazz went to last offseason. He looked in great shape at the start of last offseason, and he looks pretty thin this summer, when I saw him play in the Canada/Argentina game. Before he went down in our game against the Wolves, he was hustling like crazy (I was at that game).

In the C/A game I watched while in Canada, he looked really good. Now with all that said, I didn't see much difference between him and Warren, so I don't know how much of a need he would fill. If we trade Markieff for a pick, or a future player like Saric, I don't think Bennett would be a bad choice. He seems hungry to prove himself, and more than likely asked for a buyout, after the Wolves were able to secure two PFs this summer.

Frank Lee · Post #1232 » by **Frank Lee** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:54 am

RunDogGun wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:
We now have McD at the helm and he has proven that he knows how to build a team....

Just because you can shuffle cards doesn't mean you know how to deal

I think he did just fine dealing. He took a 25 win team to 48. Can he go to WSoB, who knows? But if you are going to use analogies, at least be honest about them.

No doubts Tryin Ryan is getting his practice in.

And I am being honest. Pay no attention to the train wreck following that 48 win team..... that now has what 2 or 3 remaining ballers ? The vaulted 'Bledsoe for Dudley' can only carry you for so long. Jury is still out for the recent moves. We sure are banking on this new squad to mesh...again. At least we are almost free of malcontents.

letsgosuns · Post #1233 » by **letsgosuns** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:19 am

I would absolutely take a chance on Bennett. What is there to lose? Especially if the Suns are trading Markieff. I just have no idea why the Wolves are buying him out. It makes no sense. Look at his highlight video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd9YOFoN8Ys I understand that these are the best parts of his season and he does not have great stats but c'mon. The guy looks like he has some serious dunking/finishing ability, nice footwork, and a nice shot. Why give him away for nothing. Who knows what the reason is. Giving up on a guy after two years in the league and only one of those years on your own team seems crazy to me.

Post #1234 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:32 am

McD has done fine for a young GM. Has he had his spectacular moments? Absolutely. Has he made some questionable deals? Yeah, sure. But I think he's done fine thus far. His bad moves have been more of a result of inexperience in handling personalities and people in general rather than being fleeced in trades, which is a good thing. Those lacking soft skills he'll build up over time.

He made great moves to get us in a great position for Lebron and LMA after only a couple of seasons as GM under his belt, that's a heck of an achievement in itself. Are we the contender we hoped for? No, but I think we knew coming in this would be a long term project.

letsgosuns · Post #1235 » by **letsgosuns** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:51 am

McDonough has fared better in trades than in free agency so far. I like the Chandler signing and Teletovich has potential to be a good pickup but some of Mcdonough's signings last year were atrocious. The two worst were signing Thomas and Tolliver. Both moves speak for themselves and I do not need to delve into the reasons why they were so poor. His one trade that now looks terrible imo opinion was giving away Gortat for virtually nothing. He got only expiring contracts and a draft pick which I believe turned into Tyler Ennis. Looking back, he should have gotten WAY MORE for Gortat than just salary cap relief and one mid-first round pick. Other than that, he has pretty much fleeced everyone else in trades so far.

SideSwipe · Post #1236 » by **SideSwipe** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:06 am

letsgosuns wrote:I would absolutely take a chance on Bennett. What is there to lose? Especially if the Suns are trading Markieff. I just have no idea why the Wolves are buying him out. It makes no sense. Look at his highlight video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd9YOFoN8Ys I understand that these are the best parts of his season and he does not have great stats but c'mon. The guy looks like he has some serious dunking/finishing ability, nice footwork, and a nice shot. Why give him away for nothing. Who knows what the reason is. Giving up on a guy after two years in the league and only one of those years on your own team seems crazy to me.

Yeah, there is still too much there to like to call him a bust. Misuse of a #1? Definitely. There is still a lot to like there. I would definitely give him a shot. Could be good in PHX if the price is right. His offensive rebounding ability would be much appreciated. Could he become a manimal type player?

Not sure how Leuer, Mirza or maybe Jefferson would take it, but it could be interesting.

Frank Lee · Post #1237 » by **Frank Lee** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:10 am

What are the possibilities of buying MoBro out? And what are the cap hits if so?

RunDogGun · Post #1238 » by **RunDogGun** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:29 am

Frank Lee wrote:What are the possibilities of buying MoBro out? And what are the cap hits if so?

Why? He is not a bad player, just immature and pissed. I'm sure other teams would take on his contract, even if he is coming off the bench.

On the heals of paying off Beasley and Childress, I just don't see us eating $32 million.

Post #1239 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:51 am

letsgosuns wrote:McDonough has fared better in trades than in free agency so far. I like the Chandler signing and Teletovich has potential to be a good pickup but some of Mcdonough's signings last year were atrocious. The two worst were signing Thomas and Tolliver. Both moves speak for themselves and I do not need to delve into the reasons why they were so poor. His one trade that now looks terrible imo opinion was giving away Gortat for virtually nothing. He got only expiring contracts and a draft pick which I believe turned into Tyler Ennis. Looking back, he should have gotten WAY MORE for Gortat than just salary cap relief and one mid-first round pick. Other than that, he has pretty much fleeced everyone else in trades so far.

I don't care so much about free agency since for most FA's, it's just about throwing money at them. It's the FA's who are getting max offers from every team which will require some fanfare and selling.

NBA trades is like a business negotiation between two very smart and experienced minds (generally). It's much harder to "beat" the other GM than it is to just throw money at a FA. So in that respect, getting an B in trades would significantly outweighs getting an A in FA signings, in my opinion. It's just much harder to get away with a robbery in trades than it is to find a steal in FA.

I do like the signing of Chandler, Telly and Weems.

Fo-Real · Post #1240 » by **Fo-Real** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:26 am

Yes on Bennett.... that is all.