Im sick of NBA 2K's stupidity and cheating

[Rock Bottom]

i would never..

And Rock means EVER

buy that xbone trash..

cant even get street fighter 5..pos..

[NYKAL]

For as long as they been making this game and charging 60 bucks how is it the computer is the same **** year after year? Has the computer been improved sense the game was the cheapest NBA game on PS2 at 29.99? This isnt realistic. They cheat. They dumb my guys down and make their guys super hyper. Their hands are always in the passing lane. If I block their shot the computers reaction time is in the blink of an eye to recover. While it takes seconds for my guys to recover from one move. No matter how much I adjust the defense sliders and help defense, my defense always collapses on drives leaving open shooters. If I recover fast enough to contest, in the blink of an eye they have the offensive rebound and score.

I jump up for a rebound and miss it. They get it. My guy has to recover from coming back down. Regain his composer. Regather to jump again. By the time this happens they have already scored and are back on defense. My guys are waiting for the imbound pass while my center is jumping back up to contest the shot they already made.

They just zig zag into the paint until the defense collapses. It loops like this until the shot clock is down to one. Where they do something spectacular AND draw the foul. It seems like the computers guys not only have better reaction time but they move better. My guys lumber around, get in my way, sometimes turn their back on passes resulting in turn overs. Passing can be impossible sometimes. I swear theres times where the ball goes in a different direction than I chose. And the computer is always there to steal it.

Stop playing as the Knicks

How did you know?

Someone else FEELS MY PAIN. Yeah, like the poster below said, adjust the slider and it should get "a bit" better.

My biggest pain was the passing in the lane. Like you said, their hands seem to ALWAYS be in the passing lane, even though the pass and angle seemed perfect. I almost tossed my controller across the room too many times to count

Passing in the land = turnover.

[Americafkya]

I was so induced to rage by 2k today that I had to find this thread and vent

In general I have noticed a few things about MyPlayer that make it pretty rage inducing.

First, your reaction time is way longer the computers. Try moving around a screen on a pick and roll, and it takes a full second for your player ot even move from a standstill. By then the pc is already around the screen.

Terrible players don't miss. Shabazz Napier hit a bunch of turn around 3's on me, and Josh Mcroberts owned us to the tune of 25 pts scoring on hook shots, put backs,3's and dunks. Not to mention all of the contact layups they finish, and ridiculous foul calls they get. He was never boxed out, and couldn't miss turn around faders.

The computer doesn't play defense on your side. It rarely helps me when I get screened, and the computer simply cuts under the hoops, and slips an easy pass in for a layup. Not only that but they give the shooters a ton of space to keep raining 3s even when I set it to apply pressure.

The computer's defense is incredibly good on the Pick n Roll, and it is almost impossible to get a good pass of without them picking it off, and if you do happen to get one, then your teammate bobbles it. Also, on the fast break they can simply hit you in transition and stop you from driving. It is nowhere close to realistic. That's a foul by the rules of the game. If you much as touch them in the open court you either stick to them or bounce off.

Speaking of teammates. how come my open teammates can't hit layups or open shots, but Tyler Ennis hits every 3 that D wade dishes him? I hit lebron in stride on a break and he blows the layup. Pass to Mozgov underneath and he either gets blocked or misses a hook. Kyrie Irving can't make a shot to save his life. So how come Kemba Walker hits every shot no matter the defense?

the CPU's perimeter D is not even close to realistic. How can Steve Novak stay in front of Lebron so easily? How can they shuffle their feet so quickly. They move backward and sideways at the same time by sliding across the floor. it isn't possible. How has this not been corrected after so many versions of the game?

is there any hope for corrections in the coming version? I want to destroy the game when I play. I can't bring myself to buy the next one.

[GONYK]

I was so induced to rage by 2k today that I had to find this thread and vent

In general I have noticed a few things about MyPlayer that make it pretty rage inducing.

First, your reaction time is way longer the computers. Try moving around a screen on a pick and roll, and it takes a full second for your player ot even move from a standstill. By then the pc is already around the screen.

Terrible players don't miss. Shabazz Napier hit a bunch of turn around 3's on me, and Josh Mcroberts owned us to the tune of 25 pts scoring on hook shots, put backs,3's and dunks. Not to mention all of the contact layups they finish, and ridiculous foul calls they get. He was never boxed out, and couldn't miss turn around faders.

The computer doesn't play defense on your side. It rarely helps me when I get screened, and the computer simply cuts under the hoops, and slips an easy pass in for a layup. Not only that but they give the shooters a ton of space to keep raining 3s even when I set it to apply pressure.

The computer's defense is incredibly good on the Pick n Roll, and it is almost impossible to get a good pass of without them picking it off, and if you do happen to get one, then your teammate bobbles it. Also, on the fast break they can simply hit you in transition and stop you from driving. It is nowhere close to realistic. That's a foul by the rules of the game. If you much as touch them in the open court you either stick to them or bounce off.

Speaking of teammates. how come my open teammates can't hit layups or open shots, but Tyler Ennis hits every 3 that D wade dishes him? I hit lebron in stride on a break and he blows the layup. Pass to Mozgov underneath and he either gets blocked or misses a hook. Kyrie Irving can't make a shot to save his life. So how come Kemba Walker hits every shot no matter the defense?

the CPU's perimeter D is not even close to realistic. How can Steve Novak stay in front of Lebron so easily? How can they shuffle their feet so quickly. They move backward and sideways at the same time by sliding across the floor. it isn't possible. How has this not been corrected after so many versions of the game?

is there any hope for corrections in the coming version? I want to destroy the game when I play. I can't bring myself to buy the next one.

I'm way too busy averaging 45/13/8 to be bothered by all that

MyPlayer has always really been about living a fantasy. The gameplay has never really been that great.

[BodyCount]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rgejwcPbg0[/youtube]

crap like this annoys me the most. Playing Defense is a nightmare. CPU is a complete moron. So you're forced to micro manage all this crap all the time and I really don't want to control 5 bloody players on D all the f**** time in 10 minute quaters and battle with f***** control trying to f**k me with some random animation. And if you look at this video it's like cpu did everything possible he could do wrong with center of this guy just to make sure that he's got 100% chance to score on that possesion. It will even sabotage the player you're controling to stop you from blocking that or if you do manage to get back in time to jump and block that, he'll just sabotage your jump button and offensive player will lay it in your face. Which center you have, it doesn't matter, I got so desperate I bought Mark Gasol and cpu still sabotaged my jump button if he was loosing and needed to get back into the game.

Yeah he could have prevented that by manually controling center, then switched fast back to Hardaway and get him back to his man, then probably switched back to center (cause by that time his center would probably be in some stupid animation trying to make room for oponents center just so that cpu could continue executing the play). Also he could manually move center a bit lower and just let hardaway go under the screen, but then it's really a living hell to do those 2 steps back to the oposing center cause his feet will be all over the place and if you just switch player so that cpu recovers him back, he'll most likely sabotage it.

another example:
completely ret*arded collapse of defense
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9p3vW4o_PA[/youtube]

Worth to check other videos from this guy, he has probably most of the stuff covered anyone might be annoyed by

edit: just found the video of cpu cheating to get a free shot. Oh yeah, this are one of my favourites
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P1guLYlJUE[/youtube]

[kane2021]

This stuff with the computer AI goes all the way back to when 2K was exclusive to sega dreamcast. I can remember these same issues infuriating me back then. Computer reaction time being noticeably better than yours. Delays in commands. Pauses between your moves as your player must recover from the last move. (no quick cuts off of cuts and rejumps). The computers moves are faster and seamless. While yours are jagged and delayed.

You can tell minutes into the game if your going to lose. Because the computers players moves and hands will be hyper fast and active. While yours will be sluggish. They will hit contested low percentage shots from all over the court. While you miss most everything. Including layups and dunks.

For as long as I can remember the computers offensive strategy has been the same. The best ball handler runs in a zig zag pattern closing in on the basket, until A, it gets free for a layup, B, shot clock runs down to 2 seconds left and you foul, or C, you defend the zip zag and keep them away from the basket, where at the end of the shot clock, the computer will give up your teammates defensive assignments. Opening up a pass and shoot, or cutter.

The computer has always used trades and free agency to stack up players at positions. As you progress through your franchise or association, what ever it s called,.. the computer will stack up 2 or 3 starters at one position. Computer will trade its starting shooting guard, for someones starting center, then sign another starting center, and have 3 starting centers on one team. Or 4 power forwards. Or 3 PG's. All starters. Been like that sense dreamcast.

Another thing is the computer does not have the ability to learn. I play one way and use certain players in certain ways. Build up their stats and establish a game plan. I simulate games to advance through a season, and all of that is thrown WAY off. I play one way with my team. The computer plays another way with my team when I simulate. Regardless of the adjustments I make to the simulation settings. I had 2 guys go from being 24 ppg scorers all the way down to the low teens by simulating a month. Your penalized personal achievement goals if you do not play every minute of every game.

2K had better graphics than live. And smother looking game play. Better announcers and broadcasts simulation. Ever sense sega went down, all 2K has done in make improvements to those points. Add game modes.

They have NEVER made any significant headway in improving the AI. Systems get stronger. They add more graphics.

Been a few years running now that each new game is just a roster update, subtle visual enhancements, new theme, and a new sound track, that is probably no more than a patch over the previous year. That they sell for 59.99.

Until they either get some real competition, or people get so fed up, they stop buying it, I have to say it will never improve. I mean why should they take time and spend money on improving something that been the same for over 10 years,... if people still buy it?

PS. I messed with the sliders. As an experiment...... I went into the computers tendencies,.... and lowered their attack the basket level to nothing. Most of the computers possessions then resulted in a single ball handler standing still dribbling until the shot clock began to run down. So that showed me the computer is not programmed to run an organized game.

You get 2 choices. Either put up crazy arcade video game numbers in 50 point blow outs. Or be cheated. Theres no middle ground. No intelligence or learning. Its garbage. Makes me so mad. What can I do? Break my TV? Beat up the unusual fellow at my local gamestop?

[kNicksGmen]

you make some good points especially about association mode. i love franchise modes in sports game and in 2K it is definitely very flawed how teams make decisions in free agency/trades. i'm sure it's very challenging to program the AI to think realistically but it would be nice to see teams think about the big picture.

a few years into the association mode teams usually have all the cap spent. teams don't try to work the cap so that they have cap space in a certain year.

another thing is the rotations. you could have an old declining player that is rated like 76 and a young player with tons of potential rated like 73 and the vet will get starter minutes if he's the best rated player at that position. meanwhile the young player will barely get any. that's another thing that is annoying because i always have to adjust the rotations rather than letting the cpu do it every time there's an injury.

[Greenie]

This stuff with the computer AI goes all the way back to when 2K was exclusive to sega dreamcast. I can remember these same issues infuriating me back then. Computer reaction time being noticeably better than yours. Delays in commands. Pauses between your moves as your player must recover from the last move. (no quick cuts off of cuts and rejumps). The computers moves are faster and seamless. While yours are jagged and delayed.

You can tell minutes into the game if your going to lose. Because the computers players moves and hands will be hyper fast and active. While yours will be sluggish. They will hit contested low percentage shots from all over the court. While you miss most everything. Including layups and dunks.

For as long as I can remember the computers offensive strategy has been the same. The best ball handler runs in a zig zag pattern closing in on the basket, until A, it gets free for a layup, B, shot clock runs down to 2 seconds left and you foul, or C, you defend the zip zag and keep them away from the basket, where at the end of the shot clock, the computer will give up your teammates defensive assignments. Opening up a pass and shoot, or cutter.

The computer has always used trades and free agency to stack up players at positions. As you progress through your franchise or association, what ever it s called,.. the computer will stack up 2 or 3 starters at one position. Computer will trade its starting shooting guard, for someones starting center, then sign another starting center, and have 3 starting centers on one team. Or 4 power forwards. Or 3 PG's. All starters. Been like that sense dreamcast.

Another thing is the computer does not have the ability to learn. I play one way and use certain players in certain ways. Build up their stats and establish a game plan. I simulate games to advance through a season, and all of that is thrown WAY off. I play one way with my team. The computer plays another way with my team when I simulate. Regardless of the adjustments I make to the simulation settings. I had 2 guys go from being 24 ppg scorers all the way down to the low teens by simulating a month. Your penalized personal achievement goals if you do not play every minute of every game.

2K had better graphics than live. And smother looking game play. Better announcers and broadcasts simulation. Ever sense sega went down, all 2K has done in make improvements to those points. Add game modes.

They have NEVER made any significant headway in improving the AI. Systems get stronger. They add more graphics.

Been a few years running now that each new game is just a roster update, subtle visual enhancements, new theme, and a new sound track, that is probably no more than a patch over the previous year. That they sell for 59.99.

Until they either get some real competition, or people get so fed up, they stop buying it, I have to say it will never improve. I mean why should they take time and spend money on improving something that been the same for over 10 years,... if people still buy it?

PS. I messed with the sliders. As an experiment...... I went into the computers tendencies,.... and lowered their attack the basket level to nothing. Most of the computers possessions then resulted in a single ball handler standing still dribbling until the shot clock began to run down. So that showed me the computer is not programmed to run an organized game.

You get 2 choices. Either put up crazy arcade video game numbers in 50 point blow outs. Or be cheated. Theres no middle ground. No intelligence or learning. Its garbage. Makes me so mad. What can I do? Break my TV? Beat up the unusual fellow at my local gamestop?

This. Tell me why Gasol, Hibbert and a 84 rated drafted center are on the Grizz. How?

[stopstandthere]

Carmelo Anthony is ranked 88 overall in NBA 2K16, making him the 8th-best player in the game (LeBron, Curry, Davis, Harden, Durant, Paul, Westbrook).

Too High, Too Low, or Just Right?

[CoolKids]

Carmelo Anthony is ranked 88 overall in NBA 2K16, making him the 8th-best player in the game (LeBron, Curry, Davis, Harden, Durant, Paul, Westbrook).

Too High, Too Low, or Just Right?

Sounds right to me.

[F N 11]

For the last time ratings are based on your overall skill. Not by where they think you rank in the NBA.

[Greenie]

For the last time ratings are based on your overall skill. Not by where they think you rank in the NBA.

Who really cares?

[F N 11]

For the last time ratings are based on your overall skill. Not by where they think you rank in the NBA.

Who really cares?

Tired of seeing post about who's better than who in a damn NBA game.

[Greenie]

For the last time ratings are based on your overall skill. Not by where they think you rank in the NBA.

Who really cares?

Tired of seeing post about who's better than who in a damn NBA game.

They wanna know who to play with.

[Rock Bottom]

2K HYPE

2K16 for PS4 gets delivered to me tomorrow Ill be online damn I shoulda hve kept that damn psn card around

[F N 11]

Damn I may have to go in debt and preorder it today lol

[Pjax4Prez]

Well if any of you are on xbox one and are getting 2k16 get up with me.

Wouldn't mind playing with and against some of my Knick comrades.

[malik959]

Man 2k16 is off the chain, far better than 15! A lot of the stuff we complained about in this board has been corrected. As far as the players getting back to their man on defense, there's no longer a lag. They now have it in each players attribute for how quickly they react. Now don't be alarmed by a player's overall attributes, they separated it in 5 categories:
Offense
Defense
Athleticism
Mental (I.Q)
Misc (potential)

I believe in 2K15 the lowest you can get in attributes is a 35, now they dropped it down to 25. So Lopez is a 75, he's not an offensive player so:
Moving Shot 3 =33
Standing shot 3 =33
Ball control = 35
Pass vision 30
Pass accuracy 30
Lateral quickness 25
Acceleration 25
Numbers like this will drop your attributes greatly, but we all know these are areas that he flat out sucks at, but when it comes to defense, help defense, close shot, and blocks are all high numbers. Arron Afflalo is deadly and is quickly becoming my most used for his mid-range jumper is always on point. Prozingis is a beast!

The ones I didn't understand were Grant, Early and D.Will. Not saying that Will is supposed to be the bomb, but his best attributes are supposed to be his athleticism, but for some reason Early is more athletic? Will's shot, like 2k15, is easily blocked due to his low jumping (dude can jump out the gym so why so low? Grant is known for his offensive IQ and vision but his numbers are low. Galo's defense was also lower than I'd expect but man I love using him.

Overall I'm loving it, no more slow reactions, oh and no more getting killed by every single ball handler, now instead I get killed by big men, but when you use KP6 as a help defender you can really disrupt a lot of players. Hats off to 2K for this one.

[Rock Bottom]

Im doing my Career mode PS4 and signed with Knicks,

Porzingis is one of my fav teammate to pass to , he moves just like him

[Jstarks3]

preordered 2k16 and its ok. its better than 2k15, i see the slight improvements, but they are slight. still waiting for that 99 knicks team. who the **** wants the dirk/nash/finley mavs?

also, i think they got porzingod's hair wrong. thats just me.