Arena Construction - Make pitch for ASG in 22/23. pg 95

[MickeyDavis]

Good question, I don't know if that's ever happened before. I don't know if it would work logistically, trying to move season ticket holders over mid-season. Plus everyone else who had bought advanced tickets. Plus the prices will no doubt be higher in the new place. I guess if they had a firm date a few months in advance it could work. Such as by June 1, 2017 if they knew for sure it would be done Feb 1 or something like that.

[WC NBA Fan]

I know it sounds kind of silly, but I hope the ceiling in the new arena is black instead of white. It just makes a world of difference with atmosphere/looks.

Also wanna see much better lighting.

I agree with this and it goes beyond aesthetics. Not only does it look better but those black, curved tile looking things that they put on the roof of most new arenas are there to enhance the sound system and overall sound quality so not only does it make the bldg look better but makes it sound better as well.

As someone who has visited every arena in the league, the BC stands out as looking like an oversized HS gym and the white roof contributes to that.

[WC NBA Fan]

Sorry if this has already been discussed but say that construction is not finished by the start of 2017. Would they consider (would the NBA even allow it) a mid season move if it is done by December/January '18?

This has happened before. Washington, Miami and Toronto all opened their arenas after opening day so there is precedence.

[MickeyDavis]

He's talking about a move to the new arena, not to Seattle. I think

[Black_Dragon]

Sorry if this has already been discussed but say that construction is not finished by the start of 2017. Would they consider (would the NBA even allow it) a mid season move if it is done by December/January '18?

No. Once they start construction, they can't take the team away.

I'm talking about a move from the Bradley Center to the new Arena.

[Thunder Muscle]

I'm curious how the season ticket holder moves go in general. I assume there has to be a pecking order of who gets to choose their spot in the new location first. I can't imagine its a free for all open house. Any Brewers season ticket holders from around 2000 and 2001 remember how they did it?

Orlando has a newer arena, small market, young team, and here are their season ticket prices for upper deck. Probably a rough ball park figure to go by. Ours might be a little higher if our team is winning & being 2-3 years out: http://www.nba.com/magic/seasontickets#seating-table

[MickeyDavis]

I think they go by seniority, how long you've had your tickets. Full season first, then half season, then 10 game, etc....

[WC NBA Fan]

Sorry if this has already been discussed but say that construction is not finished by the start of 2017. Would they consider (would the NBA even allow it) a mid season move if it is done by December/January '18?

No. Once they start construction, they can't take the team away.

I'm talking about a move from the Bradley Center to the new Arena.

My bad. This has happened before. Miami, Toronto and Washington all opened their arenas after opening day. Miami was late December of 1999, Washington was early December 1997 and Toronto was March of '99.

[KidA24]

I'm curious how the season ticket holder moves go in general. I assume there has to be a pecking order of who gets to choose their spot in the new location first. I can't imagine its a free for all open house. Any Brewers season ticket holders from around 2000 and 2001 remember how they did it?

Orlando has a newer arena, small market, young team, and here are their season ticket prices for upper deck. Probably a rough ball park figure to go by. Ours might be a little higher if our team is winning & being 2-3 years out: http://www.nba.com/magic/seasontickets#seating-table

The Brewers SSH ticketing went this way:
Step 1: Which pack are you buying?
- Full Season, first dibs.
Step 2: What is your seniority?
- If you're buying full season, and you're the most senior person, you get the best seats.


So, if they do it the way the Brewers do, if you're a 20 year half-season holder, you'll pick your seats after every single new full season seat holder.

[mbradleyc]

No. Once they start construction, they can't take the team away.

I'm talking about a move from the Bradley Center to the new Arena.

My bad. This has happened before. Miami, Toronto and Washington all opened their arenas after opening day. Miami was late December of 1999, Washington was early December 1997 and Toronto was March of '99.

Fascitelli already said they won't do a mid-season move. If it isn't ready by 10/17, they will wait until 10/18 to open it regardless of when it actually finishes construction.

Fascitelli said even if the arena is completed before the end of the 2017-2018 season, he doesn’t anticipate the Bucks would begin playing there until the following NBA season that starts in fall 2018.
“To get in mid-year is just not an option,” he said.

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2015/09/15/bucks-arena-opening-to-be-delayed-ayear-until-2018.html

[mbradleyc]

Hey, so why are we still rolling with the old logo? Training camp starts in a week.

[MickeyDavis]

It also appears that the nagging issue of whether one block of N. 4th St. will be closed to create a public plaza to tie the arena to a proposed entertainment center has been resolved in favor of the Bucks. Ald. Robert Bauman had argued to keep the street open when the Bucks don't play, and maintained Tuesday that a separate vote by the council is still needed to decide that issue.

That's true, but it seems unlikely that aldermen will vote to keep the block open. And Bauman said that he supported an amendment by Ald. Milele Coggs that would allow the city to take back ownership of that N. 4th St. block if the Bucks stop operating the plaza.

[EastSideBucksFan]

It also appears that the nagging issue of whether one block of N. 4th St. will be closed to create a public plaza to tie the arena to a proposed entertainment center has been resolved in favor of the Bucks. Ald. Robert Bauman had argued to keep the street open when the Bucks don't play, and maintained Tuesday that a separate vote by the council is still needed to decide that issue.

That's true, but it seems unlikely that aldermen will vote to keep the block open. And Bauman said that he supported an amendment by Ald. Milele Coggs that would allow the city to take back ownership of that N. 4th St. block if the Bucks stop operating the plaza.

What piece is that from?

[MickeyDavis]

Sorry, should have provided the link

http://www.jsonline.com/news/common-council-moves-arena-project-forward-b99583063z1-329178581.html

[EastSideBucksFan]

Sorry, should have provided the link

http://www.jsonline.com/news/common-council-moves-arena-project-forward-b99583063z1-329178581.html

Thanks....that's pretty big news.

[GrandAdmiralDan]

It's going to be a surreal sight to go to Bucks games and walk past our new arena being built.

Lots of things to think about going into the new arena.

I would be happy to see a Hard Rock Cafe or House of Blues put in, some type of local brewpub, and obviously lots of amazing food options including Kopps.

I wish I had made better note of this when I first learned of it, so I would like to confirm this before standing behind it 100%, but I discovered that there will be no "sit-down dining option" in the new arena or live block. That is something that is stipulated in the new arena legislation. My understanding is that would not apply to ancillary development on the Park East land, or on the land vacated when the BC is razed.

You could still have places like Kopp's, AJ Bombers, Zaffiros, etc. inside the arena or in the outside plaza live block, but you would order at a window/counter, and get your food when it is ready (like at Kopp's)

[MickeyDavis]

Well that sucks

[MadBlueEdwards]

It's going to be a surreal sight to go to Bucks games and walk past our new arena being built.

Lots of things to think about going into the new arena.

I would be happy to see a Hard Rock Cafe or House of Blues put in, some type of local brewpub, and obviously lots of amazing food options including Kopps.

I wish I had made better note of this when I first learned of it, so I would like to confirm this before standing behind it 100%, but I discovered that there will be no "sit-down dining option" in the new arena or live block. That is something that is stipulated in the new arena legislation. My understanding is that would not apply to ancillary development on the Park East land, or on the land vacated when the BC is razed.

You could still have places like Kopp's, AJ Bombers, Zaffiros, etc. inside the arena or in the outside plaza live block, but you would order at a window/counter, and get your food when it is ready (like at Kopp's)

Feigin mentioned this at a Westown Association meeting about a month ago too. He didn't go into great detail, but threw it out there since there were a bunch of bar/restaurant owners there wondering how the arena would affect their business.

[MickeyDavis]

http://www.jsonline.com/business/lease-negotiations-for-new-milwaukee-bucks-arena-to-begin-shortly-b99584224z1-329551291.html

Lease negotiations involving a new Milwaukee Bucks arena will begin within the next few weeks, with the basketball club's future landlord hiring a consulting firm to help with that process.

The Wisconsin Center District, a public agency which operates the convention center and other downtown venues, will own the new arena, under state legislation enacted in August to provide the $250 million public financing package. The final piece of that package, $47 million from the city, was approved this week.

The district board voted 17-0 Friday to approve board Chair Scott Neitzel's recommendation to hire Barrett Sports Group LLC as the chief project manager, financial adviser and negotiator.

The state law grants Neitzel, Gov. Scott Walker's Department of Administration secretary, exclusive authority to execute a lease, development agreement and non-relocation agreement with the Bucks. The new arena's construction cannot start until those agreements are completed.

Neitzel declined to say when he thought that would occur, telling the Journal Sentinel that he didn't want negotiations to occur under "an artificial deadline."

During the meeting, Neitzel said his objective is "to move judiciously, and expeditiously."

Barrett Sports Group, based in the Los Angeles Area, will ensure the board has "agreements as tight as possible to protect the taxpayers' interests," said Dan Barrett, the firm's owner.

"We're not going to hurry," Barrett told board members.

The Bucks say they want to open the arena by the start of the 2017-'18 National Basketball Association's season, but have recently acknowledged the $500 million facility may not open until the 2018-'19 season.

Barrett Sports Group, founded in 2000, has worked on several sports projects. That includes advising the City of Sacramento over the current development of Golden 1 Center, the new arena for the NBA's Sacramento Kings.

The compensation for Barrett Sports Group and the other firms hired Friday will be negotiated by Neitzel, and will not need board approval.

The other firms hired include Kansas City-based Husch Blackwell, special counsel for negotiations, and New York-based Morgan Stanley, which will underwrite the bond sales to borrow money for the project.

Also, hired were three Milwaukee firms: Robert W. Baird & Co., financial adviser; Quarles & Brady, bond counsel, and Michael, Best & Friedrich, center district counsel.

[drew881]

Well that sucks

I don't view it as a negative thing. If anything, it shoud contribute to the Live Block being a better tailgate area, instead of a table service atmosphere. You can still find restsurants in the ancillary development, once built.