Hard to watch Aaron Rodgers now

generaldreedle · Post #1 » by **generaldreedle** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:06 am

It still hurts.

NinerSickness · Post #2 » by **NinerSickness** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:36 am

This just feels like it's the Packers' year (despite Jordy Nelson).

NinerSickness · Post #3 » by **NinerSickness** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:37 am

We'd have to share the 2 spot behind Pittsburgh with both Dallas and GB if they do win it.

RedneckNiner · Post #4 » by **RedneckNiner** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:07 am

It is not really hard to watch Aaron Rodgers.. yes coulda woulda shoulda... but the Nolan Singletary comedy of errors would have ruined Aaron.... he'd probably be a Chief and we'd still have Kaep...

NinerSickness · Post #5 » by **NinerSickness** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:40 am

RedneckNiner wrote:It is not really hard to watch Aaron Rodgers.. yes coulda woulda shoulda... but the Nolan Singletary comedy of errors would have ruined Aaron.... he'd probably be a Chief and we'd still have Kaep...

Yeah; the combination of Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers would've never worked in SF that first season. It just wouldn't have been a good fit.

clyde21 · Post #6 » by **clyde21** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:57 am

RedneckNiner wrote:It is not really hard to watch Aaron Rodgers.. yes coulda woulda shoulda... but the Nolan Singletary comedy of errors would have ruined Aaron.... he'd probably be a Chief and we'd still have Kaep...

I doubt we would've "ruined" Aaron Rodgers. He's the **** GOAT.

goober · Post #7 » by **goober** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:18 pm

Now let's not pass on the next QB coming out of Cal.... Goff looks really really good

RedneckNiner · Post #8 » by **RedneckNiner** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:41 am

The GOAT is Joe Montana... He Shows Aaron his 4 rings and says the line is behind me...

DoobieKeebler · Post #9 » by **DoobieKeebler** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:10 am

This ain't nothing compared to what October 4th will look like.

I want a reaction cam focused on Rodgers every time the Niners are on offense. After steamrolling THE Alex Smith last week and then playing Kaepercrap this week I imagine there are gonna be some good chuckle moments.

wco81 · Post #10 » by **wco81** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:41 am

He may never win 4 or 5 rings.

But physically way more gifted than Brady or Manning.

Supposedly coming from Tedford's system which had several busts was part of the decision.

However Alex was coming from an offense which is nothing like an NFL offense and the difference in physical talent should have been apparent.

wco81 · Post #11 » by **wco81** » Thu Oct 1, 2015 1:43 pm

Andrew Brant said Rodgers was one of three players the Packers considered to be with a first round pick. Alex Smith was not one of the other two.

They liked his arm strength and demeanor before the draft.

Afterwards, it was clear he had the right personality for it.

Difference in arm talent alone should have made the choice obvious. And now, Rodgers tries and makes throws that no other QB has the audacity to consider, yet has the best TD to int ratio.

**** Mike Nolan should never get near a draft room again. He missed on a once in a generation player. He basically **** the team way more than his old man did.

Pattersonca65 · Post #12 » by **Pattersonca65** » Thu Oct 1, 2015 4:09 pm

wco81 wrote:Andrew Brant said Rodgers was one of three players the Packers considered to be with a first round pick. Alex Smith was not one of the other two.

They liked his arm strength and demeanor before the draft.

Afterwards, it was clear he had the right personality for it.

Difference in arm talent alone should have made the choice obvious. And now, Rodgers tries and makes throws that no other QB has the audacity to consider, yet has the best TD to int ratio.

**** Mike Nolan should never get near a draft room again. He missed on a once in a generation player. He basically **** the team way more than his old man did.

It wasn't just Nolan. The irony is from what i've read Mike McCarthy who is currently Green Bay's coach wanted Alex Smith over Aaron Rodgers. It wasn't just the 49ers. Rodgers almost fell to the second round with almost every team passing on him. The thought at the time was Rodgers was more advanced than Smith coming out of college but he was a product of a great system and he wasn't going to get much better in the NFL. Smith was younger and raw but had a higher ceiling. Epic fail by alot of NFL scouts

Pattersonca65 · Post #13 » by **Pattersonca65** » Thu Oct 1, 2015 4:16 pm

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/120122808/revisiting-aaron-rodgers-2005-draft-fall-alex-smith-49ers-packers

So you can curse Mike McCarthy this Sunday, lol

Post #14 » by **MHSL82** » Thu Oct 1, 2015 4:47 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
wco81 wrote:Andrew Brant said Rodgers was one of three players the Packers considered to be with a first round pick. Alex Smith was not one of the other two.

They liked his arm strength and demeanor before the draft.

Afterwards, it was clear he had the right personality for it.

Difference in arm talent alone should have made the choice obvious. And now, Rodgers tries and makes throws that no other QB has the audacity to consider, yet has the best TD to int ratio.

**** Mike Nolan should never get near a draft room again. He missed on a once in a generation player. He basically **** the team way more than his old man did.

It wasn't just Nolan. The irony is from what I've read Mike McCarthy who is currently Green Bay's coach wanted Alex Smith over Aaron Rodgers. It wasn't just the 49ers. Rodgers almost fell to the second round with almost every team passing on him. The thought at the time was Rodgers was more advanced than Smith coming out of college but he was a product of a great system and he wasn't going to get much better in the NFL. Smith was younger and raw but had a higher ceiling. Epic fail by a lot of NFL scouts

As a fan of Alex Smith, it would seem that I would get tired of people comparing him or lamenting we didn't pick Rodgers. I don't. I know Rodgers was the better choice. I get tired of people acting like we were the only team that missed on Rodgers. That's what annoys me. As much as I liked Smith, I admit I knew nothing at the time about Rodgers and it became clear through time (before Rodgers first snap) that Smith wasn't great (or before Smith's first snap, I suppose) and quickly after Rodgers' first year that he'd be special, though I took people's word before that that he would.

Pattersonca65 · Post #15 » by **Pattersonca65** » Thu Oct 1, 2015 5:15 pm

MHSL82 wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
wco81 wrote:Andrew Brant said Rodgers was one of three players the Packers considered to be with a first round pick. Alex Smith was not one of the other two.

They liked his arm strength and demeanor before the draft.

Afterwards, it was clear he had the right personality for it.

Difference in arm talent alone should have made the choice obvious. And now, Rodgers tries and makes throws that no other QB has the audacity to consider, yet has the best TD to int ratio.

**** Mike Nolan should never get near a draft room again. He missed on a once in a generation player. He basically **** the team way more than his old man did.

It wasn't just Nolan. The irony is from what I've read Mike McCarthy who is currently Green Bay's coach wanted Alex Smith over Aaron Rodgers. It wasn't just the 49ers. Rodgers almost fell to the second round with almost every team passing on him. The thought at the time was Rodgers was more advanced than Smith coming out of college but he was a product of a great system and he wasn't going to get much better in the NFL. Smith was younger and raw but had a higher ceiling. Epic fail by a lot of NFL scouts

As a fan of Alex Smith, it would seem that I would get tired of people comparing him or lamenting we didn't pick Rodgers. I don't. I know Rodgers was the better choice. I get tired of people acting like we were the only team that missed on Rodgers. That's what annoys me. As much as I liked Smith, I admit I knew nothing at the time about Rodgers and it became clear through time (before Rodgers first snap) that Smith wasn't great (or before Smith's first snap, I suppose) and quickly after Rodgers' first year that he'd be special, though I took people's word before that that he would.

At this point I am just having fun with it. It doesn't bother me anymore. Happened 10 years ago. Water over the bridge.

CrimsonCrew · Post #16 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Thu Oct 1, 2015 6:30 pm

wco81 wrote:Andrew Brant said Rodgers was one of three players the Packers considered to be with a first round pick. Alex Smith was not one of the other two.

They liked his arm strength and demeanor before the draft.

Afterwards, it was clear he had the right personality for it.

Difference in arm talent alone should have made the choice obvious. And now, Rodgers tries and makes throws that no other QB has the audacity to consider, yet has the best TD to int ratio.

**** Mike Nolan should never get near a draft room again. He missed on a once in a generation player. He basically **** the team way more than his old man did.

Obviously we made the wrong choice in 2005, but the sentiment above has led to countless first round QBs busting. Arm strength is probably not in the top-10 of qualities that make Rodgers a great QB.

wco81 · Post #17 » by **wco81** » Thu Oct 1, 2015 7:54 pm

Sure Stafford and Flacco have great arms but they've been wildly inconsistent.

I remember Rodgers just zipping the seam routes in college, at the same time Peyton was hitting similar passes with the Colts, making Brandon Stokeley a 1000 yard WR (also had 2 others who got over 1000 yards receiving).

When we remember how Alex had problems throwing outside the hashes, arm strength is germane. No back shoulder throws to the sideline in the 49ers passing game while Aaron has lived off them.

Thing is, other teams weren't looking for QBs in that draft, though if they knew how good he could be, they probably would have changed their pick.

ChrisPozz · Post #18 » by **ChrisPozz** » Thu Oct 1, 2015 10:29 pm

wco81 wrote:Sure Stafford and Flacco have great arms but they've been wildly inconsistent.

I remember Rodgers just zipping the seam routes in college, at the same time Peyton was hitting similar passes with the Colts, making Brandon Stokeley a 1000 yard WR (also had 2 others who got over 1000 yards receiving).

When we remember how Alex had problems throwing outside the hashes, arm strength is germane. No back shoulder throws to the sideline in the 49ers passing game while Aaron has lived off them.

Thing is, other teams weren't looking for QBs in that draft, though if they knew how good he could be, they probably would have changed their pick.

Incorrect. Both GMs for the Bucs (Bruce Allen) and Redskins (Vinny Cerrato) have both said in radio interviews that in the days leading up to that draft they tried multiple times to trade up to number 1 to get a QB. The Dolphins also were said to have been interested in moving up 1 spot. Different sources confirmed that the Bucs and Redskins were targeting Smith over Rodgers.

The Bucs also really liked Cadillac Williams and the Redskins had Jason Campbell rated closely behind Smith and both have said since then that the price was too much for their liking and they felt too good about their boards to trade whatever it would've been to move up.

clyde21 · Post #19 » by **clyde21** » Fri Oct 2, 2015 1:02 am

ChrisPozz wrote:
wco81 wrote:Sure Stafford and Flacco have great arms but they've been wildly inconsistent.

I remember Rodgers just zipping the seam routes in college, at the same time Peyton was hitting similar passes with the Colts, making Brandon Stokeley a 1000 yard WR (also had 2 others who got over 1000 yards receiving).

When we remember how Alex had problems throwing outside the hashes, arm strength is germane. No back shoulder throws to the sideline in the 49ers passing game while Aaron has lived off them.

Thing is, other teams weren't looking for QBs in that draft, though if they knew how good he could be, they probably would have changed their pick.

Incorrect. Both GMs for the Bucs (Bruce Allen) and Redskins (Vinny Cerrato) have both said in radio interviews that in the days leading up to that draft they tried multiple times to trade up to number 1 to get a QB. The Dolphins also were said to have been interested in moving up 1 spot. Different sources confirmed that the Bucs and Redskins were targeting Smith over Rodgers.

The Bucs also really liked Cadillac Williams and the Redskins had Jason Campbell rated closely behind Smith and both have said since then that the price was too much for their liking and they felt too good about their boards to trade whatever it would've been to move up.

Sorry, Chris, I've given up on the whole Sources thing. I highly doubt it would've down that way had it gone through, regardless of what any "sources" say.

EDIT: Not directed at you...just the whole sources shtick all together.

NinerSickness · Post #20 » by **NinerSickness** » Fri Oct 2, 2015 2:31 am

If teams even remotely thought Rodgers would even be a top-5 QB in the NFL, they would've traded up to the top 5-10 picks of the draft to get him. And that includes the Packers.

If a QB is slotted to go between picks 15 to 40 and you think he's going to be a great one, there's no way you let him get to pick 15. Rodegrs is better than everyone, including GB, thought he'd be.

I actually thought he'd be better than Smith, and I thought he'd be good, but I didn't think he'd be a HOFer.