Hard to watch Aaron Rodgers now

[Dodub]

Funny thing is, I was the single biggest Rodgers supporter that year over on the ESPN boards. I remember a lot of people jumping down my throat on a daily basis for saying that he was better than Alex. I also remember people (Warty and a few others) literally laughing at me when I said that Rodgers had the stronger arm.

[NinerSickness]

Funny thing is, I was the single biggest Rodgers supporter that year over on the ESPN boards. I remember a lot of people jumping down my throat on a daily basis for saying that he was better than Alex. I also remember people (Warty and a few others) literally laughing at me when I said that Rodgers had the stronger arm.

That lets you off the hook for saying how great Bradford would be. And for about half of Josh Freeman.

[Dodub]

Funny thing is, I was the single biggest Rodgers supporter that year over on the ESPN boards. I remember a lot of people jumping down my throat on a daily basis for saying that he was better than Alex. I also remember people (Warty and a few others) literally laughing at me when I said that Rodgers had the stronger arm.

That lets you off the hook for saying how great Bradford would be. And for about half of Josh Freeman.

Josh Freeman should of been great. The guy was putting up pro bowl caliber numbers in his second season. He just lost all confidence and fell off the face of the planet. Also his work ethic hurt him lots from what I hear. Physically he is everything you look for though.

Also, it's not like everyone else on here doesn't have a list that's a mile long of players that they missed on. Everyone without exception. I remember when Jevan Snead was the next coming of Joe Montana. You personally loved Tyler Bray. DHB was very popular on our board. Everyone has their misses.

[generaldreedle]

One reason why I didn't get into the whole pre draft arguing who they should take unless we're scouts it's hard to credibly say they should or should not have taken somebody.

[Dodub]

One reason why I didn't get into the whole pre draft arguing who they should take unless we're scouts it's hard to credibly say they should or should not have taken somebody.

Yeah it is a bit pointless, a bunch of no names on a message board arguing about prospects. I spent years doing it though lol

[NinerSickness]

Also, it's not like everyone else on here doesn't have a list that's a mile long of players that they missed on. Everyone without exception. I remember when Jevan Snead was the next coming of Joe Montana. You personally loved Tyler Bray. DHB was very popular on our board. Everyone has their misses.

By the time Snead entered the draft, I didn't want him anywhere near the top of the draft. I liked Crabtree his sophmore year too until I saw more of him.

And I wanted the team to take a FLYER on Tyler Bray because the QB situation was dog ***t. It's the start-putting-up-threes QB strategy. I liked Mike Teel too, but it's not like I was saying use a first-round pick on the guy.

It's kind of like how I wanted 'em to take a flyer on Bryce Petty. By no means do I think Petty will be a great QB, but they might as well have taken a flyer on him in hopes he might develop into a great one.

And Freeman always sucked. Just because a guy bursts onto the scene doesn't mean he should be great. Cam did; defenses figured him out. Kaepernick did; defenses figured him out. RGIII did; same thing (plus he's injury prone).

People who suck at evaluating QBs said the same thing about Vince Young & Sam Bradford after their rookie years. They don't know what to look for.

[Dodub]

Also, it's not like everyone else on here doesn't have a list that's a mile long of players that they missed on. Everyone without exception. I remember when Jevan Snead was the next coming of Joe Montana. You personally loved Tyler Bray. DHB was very popular on our board. Everyone has their misses.

By the time Snead entered the draft, I didn't want him anywhere near the top of the draft. I liked Crabtree his sophmore year too until I saw more of him.

And I wanted the team to take a FLYER on Tyler Bray because the QB situation was dog ***t. It's the start-putting-up-threes QB strategy. I liked Mike Teel too, but it's not like I was saying use a first-round pick on the guy.

It's kind of like how I wanted 'em to take a flyer on Bryce Petty. By no means do I think Petty will be a great QB, but they might as well have taken a flyer on him in hopes he might develop into a great one.

And Freeman always sucked. Just because a guy bursts onto the scene doesn't mean he should be great. Cam did; defenses figured him out. Kaepernick did; defenses figured him out. RGIII did; same thing (plus he's injury prone).

People who suck at evaluating QBs said the same thing about Vince Young & Sam Bradford after their rookie years. They don't know what to look for.

Sick, there is not a single person on these boards that I've seen that is actually truly good at evaluating anything. Just bunch of opinions on a message board and recycled nonsense for the most part. I know some on the board might think more of themselves but there isn't a single person over the years that I've sat there and thought "man, he could actually do this for a career". This group of course has been together for YEARS.

Even the best "evaluators" on the board who are undeniably Pozz, Ray and Bingo, it never has that feeling about them either.

[Tomikcon1971]

I'm the best evaluator on the board. My record is 100%.

I've stayed 100% out of the mechanics, hand size, footwork, blah blah blah stuff. The underwear Olympics is a made for TV event.

If you guys want to test your true GM abilities you need to write everything down like a fantasy football type draft and review it 5-6 years later.

Don't do the weekly stats.....draft players for five years and then at year 6 evaluate each team and their individual bodies of work. That's the only way to know.

[Dodub]

I'm the best evaluator on the board. My record is 100%.

I've stayed 100% out of the mechanics, hand size, footwork, blah blah blah stuff. The underwear Olympics is a made for TV event.

If you guys want to test your true GM abilities you need to write everything down like a fantasy football type draft and review it 5-6 years later.

Don't do the weekly stats.....draft players for five years and then at year 6 evaluate each team and their individual bodies of work. That's the only way to know.

That's exactly right. Everyone who fancies themselves as some sort of message board GM, has about 50 guys a year on their list. That way when guys so pan out they can pull the "see, I called it card", they preach that loud and proud so much that everyone forgets about the 35 guys that they were wrong about. Or they simply lie years later about how they felt about certain players.

I realized this more and more as I got older which is why I stopped getting wrapped up in the draft stuff on here. I still enjoy the draft and I have players who I like but I'm not near as active in the discussions as I once was.

[B-King]

Any quarterback drafted that year would of had PTSD with that offensive line. I give Alex Smith a tremendous amount of credit of surviving, staying and reviving his career.

When I see Rodgers now, I don't see a guy who should be wearing a 49er uniform. I see a guy that is lucky the Niners didn't draft him.

[wco81]

One of his first seasons starting, Rodgers was sacked like over 60 times and he still produced good numbers.

He's got the right mentality, certainly would have come through it better than Alex. He's just better than Alex on ALL fronts.

[Tomikcon1971]

He's a smug prick at times but I wish he was our smug prick.

[MHSL82]

He's a smug prick at times but I wish he was our smug prick.

And he would have been if he just did the stupid jumping jacks at the combine/interviews/workouts. (I don't mean jumping jacks literally, I just mean all the hoops Nolan asked.) I mean, get drafted, get the deal, and then be the smug prick. I never felt bad for him not playing here, just us.

[B-King]

One of his first seasons starting, Rodgers was sacked like over 60 times and he still produced good numbers.

He's got the right mentality, certainly would have come through it better than Alex. He's just better than Alex on ALL fronts.

You bring up a good point, but being an understudy for three probably didn't hurt too. It is tough to say what would have happened if he was drafted by the Niners.

[wco81]

He's on track to be one of the greatest of all time. He may not win as many rings as Brady and Montana. -- part of that may be due to his commanding such a huge contract that the rest of the roster is shallow -- but nobody is close to him in TD to int ratio.

He attempts and makes throws most QBs don't even dare.

If he plays long enough, he'll break the TD and yardage records easily.

So I don't buy the argument that if he was with the 49ers, he'd go from potentially the GOAT to something very average like Alex.

Maybe it would have taken longer but he'd have hit his stride by now, even after Nolan, Singletary and York.

A bigger problem may be the run first orientation. Maybe the coaches he had would have kept tight reins.

I think Harbaugh would have been smart enough to let him pull the trigger more, instead of having him be the game manager, such as Harbaughs first season when they set a record for FGs attempted and made.

One thing he's superior to most QBs is making the presnap reads and adjustments. Now, before Harbaugh, maybe only Turner would have tutored him well.

So I'd have rather taken my chances with Rodgers and the **** coaching for 3-4 seasons than what we ended up with, which is a guy who's at his best as a game manager, taking no risks.