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hamncheese · Post #1021 » by **hamncheese** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:38 pm

No stats. These are qualitative reads. The wildcard factors are how those later round players play out. Also I firmly believe that with a 20 team league, you need to emphasize stats in one area and punt others, hence a bias toward the three small ball teams, and against AlciG's team. I could be wrong about his team being balanced but that is how it looks to me.

sabonis · Post #1022 » by **sabonis** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:09 pm

btw my team isn't a small ball team at all. If anything, my team should probably be one of the most balanced teams out there except for tanking points.

fraanciiscoo · Post #1023 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:22 pm

I going to talk with Josh Loyd as ask for my money back @BBM and will not forget to ask rotoworld too
I didnt input the numbers of all teams but i will do it when I finish i will tweet each and every team and make my analisys here but @ 1st sight I think sabonis will not make the playoffs this year, nothing new here.

I like ham cause he is one of the top 12 gms here that before making his 1st pick i know he will be fighting for the playoffs

Again i know everyone is here to have fun Me and few are here since day 1 to have fun and win I dont know to be otherwise. This probably will push another 2 or 3 pag with what i going to say but when i want to have fun i register in yahoo public league even still i will win it.

stick · Post #1024 » by **stick** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:55 pm

Ham, Sent you an offer in VBA

hamncheese · Post #1025 » by **hamncheese** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:24 pm

sabonis wrote:btw my team isn't a small ball team at all. If anything, my team should probably be one of the most balanced teams out there except for tanking points.

That's true. I guess you have a "wing" build, which you don't hear talked about much, but I nearly succeeded with that some years ago in a money league. You have two big anchors in Lopez and Bogut to get get you above the small ball teams, and Rubio to put you above the big ball teams. I think your build is still closer to small ball because you have supporting guards like McCollum, Beverly, Lin, and Crawford. Your tohre two bigs are Fry and Horford which are typical bigs that support small ball. You have a couple of SF/PF in Parsons and Barnes who are more SF. I'll call your build smallish wing ball, but I think you have good fits with all your players, which I don't see with curt, theman, and alciG. Maybe alciG's team is better than I thought initially.

The other thing I like is I think you have potentially good value on a number of players possibly outperforming draft position - Batum, Lopze, Bogut, Lin, and Crawford, in particular.

fraanciiscoo · Post #1026 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:39 pm

stick wrote:Ham, Sent you an offer in VBA

offer?
Vba ? whats vba? if its a trade i want to do it Lmao

sabonis · Post #1027 » by **sabonis** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:43 pm

hamncheese wrote:
sabonis wrote:btw my team isn't a small ball team at all. If anything, my team should probably be one of the most balanced teams out there except for tanking points.

That's true. I guess you have a "wing" build, which you don't hear talked about much, but I nearly succeeded with that some years ago in a money league. You have two big anchors in Lopez and Bogut to get get you above the small ball teams, and Rubio to put you above the big ball teams. I think your build is still closer to small ball because you have supporting guards like McCollum, Beverly, Lin, and Crawford. Your tohre two bigs are Fry and Horford which are typical bigs that support small ball. You have a couple of SF/PF in Parsons and Barnes who are more SF. I'll call your build smallish wing ball, but I think you have good fits with all your players, which I don't see with curt, theman, and alciG. Maybe alciG's team is better than I thought initially.

The other thing I like is I think you have potentially good value on a number of players possibly outperforming draft position - Batum, Lopze, Bogut, Lin, and Crawford, in particular.

now with that analysis, I totally agree.

about players outperforming draft positions, I agree on most of your selections. Maybe Lopez & Crawford could bring equivalent value to their positions. but to add to your list: I think McCollum should probably perform better than his draft position.

writersblock · Post #1028 » by **writersblock** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:43 am

hamncheese wrote:
sabonis wrote:btw my team isn't a small ball team at all. If anything, my team should probably be one of the most balanced teams out there except for tanking points.

That's true. I guess you have a "wing" build, which you don't hear talked about much, but I nearly succeeded with that some years ago in a money league. You have two big anchors in Lopez and Bogut to get get you above the small ball teams, and Rubio to put you above the big ball teams. I think your build is still closer to small ball because you have supporting guards like McCollum, Beverly, Lin, and Crawford. Your tohre two bigs are Fry and Horford which are typical bigs that support small ball. You have a couple of SF/PF in Parsons and Barnes who are more SF. I'll call your build smallish wing ball, but I think you have good fits with all your players, which I don't see with curt, theman, and alciG. Maybe alciG's team is better than I thought initially.

The other thing I like is I think you have potentially good value on a number of players possibly outperforming draft position - Batum, Lopze, Bogut, Lin, and Crawford, in particular.

I think all things equal, Sabonis' is a very good well rounded team, but I have a hard time getting behind a team that had to depend on two injury guarantees (Rubio and Bogut...there's a reason I let Rubio slide past 4 of my top 60 picks), guys who will underperform as bench players (Crawford who admitted his numbers will take a hit and Lin who couldn't even hold off a rookie in LA or Beverley in Houston ) not to mention an unproven young guy who's everyone expects to play like a veteran (McCollum)... Not to mention, Fry and his very tenuous position in the lineup in ORL, Parsons who's injured, Beverley who's also injured and playing behind Lawson now, among others

I could be totally wrong, but IMHO, it's a risky bet to count on guys like that. It may work for Sabonis this year, but I'm not as optimistic.

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Post #1029 » by **jazzfan1971** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:35 am

I can't wait to see if I'm ranked #19 or #20.

jfrost · Post #1030 » by **jfrost** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:01 am

Who can take my list for 266?

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fraanciiscoo · Post #1031 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:04 am

I will be awake in 5h to take my insuline and go to work
ps check your mail

fraanciiscoo · Post #1032 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:42 am

stick wrote:Ham, Sent you an offer in VBA

check your mail

fraanciiscoo · Post #1033 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:19 am

My team is done ( for now )
Pg Elfrid Payton ( pg )
Sg Tyreke Evans ( pg/sg )
G Emmanuel Mudiay ( pg/sg )
G Bradley Beal ( sg )
Sf Manu Ginobili ( sg/sf )
Pf Blake Griffin ( pf/c )
F Andre Drummond ( pf/c )
F Mason Plumlee ( pf/c )
C Willie Cauley-Stein ( c )
C DeAndre Jordan ( c )
B Dion Waiters ( sg/sf )
B Mirza Teletovic ( sf/pf )
B Langston Galloway ( pg/sg )
B Shabazz Muhammad ( sg/sf )

Strategy
Top 3
Reb why ? I have a strong Big combo + my G also can reb
blk why ? AD + DAJ + MP + WCS and if BG take it from .5 to .8 that would be nice regarding G TyReke is Top5 G blk wise
ast why? Payton + Tyreke + Mudiay + the best top 3 F in griffin with over 5ast per game + a bunch of guys that can get me 2 per game in manu beal galloway waiters
stl - from my starting 10 only wcs and manu might now get 1stl per game
fg - strong big combo

top
7 pts - Blake over 20 Beal and reke over 16 AD over 14 Mudiay DaJ over 12 all the others between 7ppg and 11ppg

top 16
treys ( only can win vs curt ham frost and insfo ) beal teletovic over 1.7 treys manu/Mudiay/galloway/waiters/reke between .8 and 1.2 treys

Tank
Ft% I will lose 21 games out of 21 games
to I expect to lose 21 games out of 21 games

I made 23 trades thats a personal best I normally make 8-14 trades per season
I have 2 rookies thats a personal best I normally have 0 rookies per season
Again i belive tanking a few cats its the best strategy in H2H and I did it again
Again I belive I have a playoff team and I will put together a team that can make me dream ( you were always on my mind B2B )

writersblock · Post #1034 » by **writersblock** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:40 am

We're in the final stretch. Last 10 starts today.

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sabonis · Post #1035 » by **sabonis** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:30 pm

writersblock wrote:
hamncheese wrote:
sabonis wrote:btw my team isn't a small ball team at all. If anything, my team should probably be one of the most balanced teams out there except for tanking points.

That's true. I guess you have a "wing" build, which you don't hear talked about much, but I nearly succeeded with that some years ago in a money league. You have two big anchors in Lopez and Bogut to get get you above the small ball teams, and Rubio to put you above the big ball teams. I think your build is still closer to small ball because you have supporting guards like McCollum, Beverly, Lin, and Crawford. Your tohre two bigs are Fry and Horford which are typical bigs that support small ball. You have a couple of SF/PF in Parsons and Barnes who are more SF. I'll call your build smallish wing ball, but I think you have good fits with all your players, which I don't see with curt, theman, and alciG. Maybe alciG's team is better than I thought initially.

The other thing I like is I think you have potentially good value on a number of players possibly outperforming draft position - Batum, Lopze, Bogut, Lin, and Crawford, in particular.

I think all things equal, Sabonis' is a very good well rounded team, but I have a hard time getting behind a team that had to depend on two injury guarantees (Rubio and Bogut...there's a reason I let Rubio slide past 4 of my top 60 picks), guys who will underperform as bench players (Crawford who admitted his numbers will take a hit and Lin who couldn't even hold off a rookie in LA or Beverley in Houston ) not to mention an unproven young guy who's everyone expects to play like a veteran (McCollum)... Not to mention, Fry and his very tenuous position in the lineup in ORL, Parsons who's injured, Beverley who's also injured and playing behind Lawson now, among others

I could be totally wrong, but IMHO, it's a risky bet to count on guys like that. It may work for Sabonis this year, but I'm not as optimistic.

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- Bogut can miss 15 games, which should be ok. Although I can not afford to lose Rubio for more than 8-10 games. I really do hope he's ready to make the impact that everyone has been waiting for.
- Other than that, most of the criticism you have is for my picks at range 160-180... and I'm pretty sure Lin, McCollum and Crawford will surprise you. I don't understand why you are hung up on Crawford, as he has been top 100 for some time and even if he loses some playing time, he should return top 150 value, which is better than his draft position (should be 191)
- Can not promise about Beverley but still he should be top 120 without points...
- oh and also of course I need Parsons to be healthy, but the reports show that he should be ready for the opener.
- about Frye, I was really optimistic about him when I picked him. Then the first preseason game ended and I was really let down, then in his second preseason game he gave exactly what I was expecting from him. We'll see how it turns out, but now I'm still cautiously optimistic.

stick · Post #1036 » by **stick** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:50 pm

Trade:

Fran sends: Bradley Beal and Mirza Teletovic
Stick sends: Thaddeus Young and Mario Chalmers

fraanciiscoo · Post #1037 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:00 pm

stick wrote:Trade:

Fran sends: Bradley Beal and Mirza Teletovic
Stick sends: Thaddeus Young and Mario Chalmers

I accept

My team is done ( for now )
Pg Elfrid Payton ( pg )
Sg Tyreke Evans ( pg/sg )
G Emmanuel Mudiay ( pg/sg )
G Manu Ginobili ( sg/sf )
Sf Thaddeus Young ( sf/pf )
Pf Blake Griffin ( pf/c )
F Andre Drummond ( pf/c )
F Mason Plumlee ( pf/c )
C Willie Cauley-Stein ( c )
C DeAndre Jordan ( c )
B Dion Waiters ( sg/sf )
B Mario Chalmers ( pg/sg )
B Langston Galloway ( pg/sg )
B Shabazz Muhammad ( sg/sf )

Strategy
Top 2
Reb why ? I have a strong Big combo + my G also can reb
blk why ? AD + DAJ + MP + WCS and if BG and thad take it from .4 to .8 that would be nice regarding G TyReke is Top5 G blk wise
ast why? Payton + Tyreke + Mudiay + the best top 3 F in griffin with over 5ast per game + a bunch of guys that can get me 2 per game in manu mario galloway waiters
stl - two nice D guys in this cat payton and thad + other 8 that have over .9 stl per game
fg - strong big combo

top
8 pts - Blake over 20 reke over 16 AD and that over 14 Mudiay DaJ over 12 all the others between 7ppg and 11ppg

Tank
Ft% I will lose 21 games out of 21 games
to I expect to lose 21 games out of 21 games
treys - just traded beal and teletovic

I made 24 trades thats a personal best I normally make 8-14 trades per season
I have 2 rookies thats a personal best I normally have 0 rookies per season
Again i belive tanking a few cats its the best strategy in H2H and I did it again
Again I belive I have a playoff team and I will put together a team that can make me dream ( you were always on my mind B2B )

Post #1038 » by **Curtis Lemansky** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:32 pm

Thanks to Woody and WB for making my picks. I just started a new job and today was my first day so things were a bit hectic.

writersblock · Post #1039 » by **writersblock** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:42 pm

Blockbuster Trade to announce
Fran trades Langston Galloway
WB trades Brandon Bass

Current team:
PG Mike Conley
SG Goran Dragic
G Jeff Teague
G Raul Neto
PF Luol Deng
SF Al-Farouq Aminu
F PJ Tucker
F Jeremy Lamb
C Amir Johnson
C Chris Bosh
Bench Justin Anderson
Bench Joffrey Lauvergne
Bench Langston Galloway
Bench Evan Fournier

fraanciiscoo · Post #1040 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:44 pm

writersblock wrote:Blockbuster Trade to announce
Fran trades Langston Galloway
WB trades Brandon Bass

I agree