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ALDS Game 3: Toronto @ Texas, Sunday Oct, 11, 8 PM...Keep it Simple

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Who will be the Hero of the Game

Donaldson
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1%
Bautista
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Encarnacion
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7%
Tulo
13
18%
Pillar
2
3%
Estrada
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15%
I don't care...Just win
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Re: ALDS Game 3: Toronto @ Texas, Sunday Oct, 11, 8 PM...Keep it Simple 

Post#1761 » by Kurtz » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:42 am

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RapsAndJays21 wrote:Any chance Texas goes with Gallardo tomorrow?


im gonna say no. i recall holland having a decent game the last time he faced toronto (if i recall correctly) and again its baseball, so who knows how well holland might pitch. plus theyre still up in the series and its not necessarily a "must win" and gallardo is on short rest so they probably wanna save him for game 5.


Revere's 3 year splits:

Vs Righties: 1,006 AB .658 OPS
Vs Lefties: 421 AB .744 OPS

Also keep in mind that Pompey was sent to the minors because by his own admission he was too nervous in the majors. That might be an issue in a playoff elimination game.
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Post#1762 » by kayliecee » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:59 am

LLJ wrote:Game 2 really could have gone either way. We're down 2-1 in this series because we've had a little more bad luck, but we could have been up 2-1 in this series if Game 2 went the other way. All this talk about hitting...the fact is we were able to hold them down to 1 run this time instead of 5 or 6. That's the difference between this game and the last two. The hitting looked "better" but the pitching and defense was the real difference. Plus not having the worst luck in MLB history for one game helped.

I think the hitting was better and the luck was awful.
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Randle McMurphy wrote:Are you serious right now? It could have been 10 on Perez. He struggled the entire game and got out of countless jams with sheer luck. That can happen when bad lefties face a bunch of righty mashers.


you make it seem like the jays didnt squander opportunities against hamels either... couldve been wouldve been... youre the advocate of "thats baseball" am i right?

fact is they didnt "hammer" perez. navarro hit a double that carried, donaldson is a double, bautista a single. almost every other instance of guys getting on base against perez were, surprise surprise, walks.


The hard hit balls against Perez ended up as DPs. If just one of those squeaks through, the game would have blown up earlier.
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Re: ALDS Game 3: Toronto @ Texas, Sunday Oct, 11, 8 PM...Keep it Simple 

Post#1763 » by Boogie! » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:14 am

Kurtz wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
RapsAndJays21 wrote:Any chance Texas goes with Gallardo tomorrow?


im gonna say no. i recall holland having a decent game the last time he faced toronto (if i recall correctly) and again its baseball, so who knows how well holland might pitch. plus theyre still up in the series and its not necessarily a "must win" and gallardo is on short rest so they probably wanna save him for game 5.


Revere's 3 year splits:

Vs Righties: 1,006 AB .658 OPS
Vs Lefties: 421 AB .744 OPS

Also keep in mind that Pompey was sent to the minors because by his own admission he was too nervous in the majors. That might be an issue in a playoff elimination game.


i think you quoted the wrong post.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
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Re: ALDS Game 3: Toronto @ Texas, Sunday Oct, 11, 8 PM...Keep it Simple 

Post#1764 » by Boogie! » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:14 am

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Raider917 wrote:does navarro catch tommorow?

I hope.


Navarro has not caught Dickey at all this year so I hope not.


wheres thole when you need him?

(joking.)
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Post#1765 » by Boogie! » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:17 am

kayliecee wrote:
LLJ wrote:Game 2 really could have gone either way. We're down 2-1 in this series because we've had a little more bad luck, but we could have been up 2-1 in this series if Game 2 went the other way. All this talk about hitting...the fact is we were able to hold them down to 1 run this time instead of 5 or 6. That's the difference between this game and the last two. The hitting looked "better" but the pitching and defense was the real difference. Plus not having the worst luck in MLB history for one game helped.

I think the hitting was better and the luck was awful.
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Boogie! wrote:
you make it seem like the jays didnt squander opportunities against hamels either... couldve been wouldve been... youre the advocate of "thats baseball" am i right?

fact is they didnt "hammer" perez. navarro hit a double that carried, donaldson is a double, bautista a single. almost every other instance of guys getting on base against perez were, surprise surprise, walks.


The hard hit balls against Perez ended up as DPs. If just one of those squeaks through, the game would have blown up earlier.


the only ball that was legitimate base hit material was the one colabello hit right at moreland. that was a hard liner and a nice play by moreland and that was definitely bad luck. the revere double play was a softly hit jammed shot that broke his bat. the previous double plays were just ground balls...

if the jays were just pounding base hits left right and centre, home runs, doubles etc etc, that justifies the use of the word "hammering." hard hit balls that end up being outs don't mean anything... perez gave up 6 hits before he left. double to navarro, double to donaldson, 2 singles to pillar, single to bautista. estrada gave up 5. perez's horrible game was largely because of his control issues and the jays overall plate discipline.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
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ALDS Game 3: Toronto @ Texas, Sunday Oct, 11, 8 PM...Keep it Simple 

Post#1766 » by TheDoctor » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:17 pm

Biggest win in two decades and semantic quibbling rules the post game discussion...
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Post#1767 » by RalphWiggum » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:33 pm

TheDoctor wrote:Biggest win in two decades and semantic quibbling rules the post game discussion...

I wonder who the common denominator is?
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Post#1768 » by Sifu » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:47 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about here and should probably stop pretending that you do.

Again, it's a hell of a lot easier to look like you have a good hitting approach when you face a bad pitcher. Why anybody would argue against that, I have no idea.


Dude, you should just admit you're wrong and move on, or don't admit it but still move on.

The players on the team admitted they changed their approach. Whether or not that was media speak or they faced a worse pitcher... Honestly who gives a ****. All we know is what the players say and that's what they said. How do you even debate that?
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Post#1769 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:09 am

Sifu wrote:Dude, you should just admit you're wrong and move on, or don't admit it but still move on.

Dude, it's much easier to hit Martin Perez than Cole Hamels. Forgive me for pointing it out.

All we know is what the players say and that's what they said. How do you even debate that?

Josh Donaldson just said today he felt they've had the same approach the entire series, they've just gotten better results the last two games (which tends to happen when you face bad pitching instead of good pitching). Does that mean more or less than Pillar saying the opposite and feeding into the media's need for some kind of greater narrative?
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