Official BKN-DAL-MIN pick watch Thread 2015-16 season

[ConstableGeneva]

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Lakers and Mavs among reported teams interested in Sanders.

[skywalker33]

If anything Sanders just cements that Dallas pick being conveyed this year. Sanders isn't enough to get Dallas to 50 wins but he may make the pick a few spots worse for us.

He'll add enough to DAL to get them from the 9th pick down to the 15-16th range and that where you guys have already been picking so far, how's that working out for you so far ? Sanders is a better player than some are giving credit to, but what kind of basketball shape is he in ??

[ParticleMan]

i can't imagine larry sanders puts them in the playoffs in the WC, even if he comes back to form. in the EC sure but the WC is brutal.

and picking 16th is working out fine for us, thanks for asking. especially when we're sitting with brooklyn picks for the next 3 years

[165bows]

Sanders means exactly zero until he is in uniform somewhere on the court for a real game. He's been getting paid $20 million to sit on the couch and think about life.

[pfm]

Larry Sanders hasn't played more than 27 games since the 2012-2013 season so to assume he makes a Dallas team markedly better is a stretch. More so, on 165bows' point, Sanders doesn't really mean anything until he shows he is willing to play, is committed, is in NBA shape, and can make any kind of impact. A lot to prove there.

[165bows]

Larry Sanders hasn't played more than 27 games since the 2012-2013 season so to assume he makes a Dallas team markedly better is a stretch. More so, on 165bows' point, Sanders doesn't really mean anything until he shows he is willing to play, is committed, is in NBA shape, and can make any kind of impact. A lot to prove there.

I've been following the Dallas situation a little bit and their center scenario sounds pretty dire behind Pachulia. Dalembert is reportedly out of shape and is missing action due to some nagging injury (he also hasn't played much in recent times). I don't think McGee has taken the court at all yet, and also has barely played in two years. And apparently the int'l big guy they signed is also recovering from a broken leg.

It seems like a very wide spread on that Dallas team this year. Maybe they sneak in the playoffs if their guys get their legs under them and their competition (Utah and NO and what not) keep suffering injuries, but they could quickly become god-awful as well IMO.

[pfm]

I've been following the Dallas situation a little bit and their center scenario sounds pretty dire behind Pachulia. Dalembert is reportedly out of shape and is missing action due to some nagging injury (he also hasn't played much in recent times). I don't think McGee has taken the court at all yet, and also has barely played in two years. And apparently the int'l big guy they signed is also recovering from a broken leg.

It seems like a very wide spread on that Dallas team this year. Maybe they sneak in the playoffs if their guys get their legs under them and their competition (Utah and NO and what not) keep suffering injuries, but they could quickly become god-awful as well IMO.

Pachulia is a decent player, but their depth is pretty damn bad and filled with questionable guys as you pointed out. Their starting lineup has talent, but is also full of question marks and injury concerns (Parsons' knee, Matthews' achilles, Dirk's oldness, Deron's fatness...etc.).

I think a lot would have to go wrong for them to finish bottom 7 (when you consider the teams with worse rosters and those who may try to tank), but I also think a lot needs to go right for them to make the playoffs (health wise in particular). It shall be interesting.

[Banks2Pierce]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/nba-brooklyn-nets-preview/

They are so, so bad.

Still fuming that they got Thaddeus for nothing.

[165bows]

Wow that headline.

[2Mas]

I think a lot would have to go wrong for them to finish bottom 7 (when you consider the teams with worse rosters and those who may try to tank), but I also think a lot needs to go right for them to make the playoffs (health wise in particular). It shall be interesting.

I don't think "a lot" would have to go wrong. I don't think anything really. It definitely is going to be interesting. But.

- Dwill-Dirk-Zaza are miserable on defense.
- 0 rim protection
- they only who is a real defender in that lineup is Matthews
- Matthews won't be 100% going into the season, so he prob won't ever be 100%.
- They'll be playing Dalembert &/Or McGee for key minutes. *Please reread that line*
- The best player on their bench is Devin Harris.
-- Barea, Harris, Anderson (my boy), Charlie V, McGee is their bench? Awesome.
-- Aka .. prob the worst bench in the west.

Dallas is gonna be terrible. Got them 27-55.

[peachbucket]

I think a lot would have to go wrong for them to finish bottom 7 (when you consider the teams with worse rosters and those who may try to tank), but I also think a lot needs to go right for them to make the playoffs (health wise in particular). It shall be interesting.

I don't think "a lot" would have to go wrong. I don't think anything really. It definitely is going to be interesting. But.

- Dwill-Dirk-Zaza are miserable on defense.
- 0 rim protection
- they only who is a real defender in that lineup is Matthews
- Matthews won't be 100% going into the season, so he prob won't ever be 100%.
- They'll be playing Dalembert &/Or McGee for key minutes. *Please reread that line*
- The best player on their bench is Devin Harris.
-- Barea, Harris, Anderson (my boy), Charlie V, McGee is their bench? Awesome.
-- Aka .. prob the worst bench in the west.

Dallas is gonna be terrible. Got them 27-55.

That's a terrible scenario...the last thing you want is for this Dallas team to finish with a worse record than Brooklyn.

[jordb2k7]

I think a lot would have to go wrong for them to finish bottom 7 (when you consider the teams with worse rosters and those who may try to tank), but I also think a lot needs to go right for them to make the playoffs (health wise in particular). It shall be interesting.

I don't think "a lot" would have to go wrong. I don't think anything really. It definitely is going to be interesting. But.

- Dwill-Dirk-Zaza are miserable on defense.
- 0 rim protection
- they only who is a real defender in that lineup is Matthews
- Matthews won't be 100% going into the season, so he prob won't ever be 100%.
- They'll be playing Dalembert &/Or McGee for key minutes. *Please reread that line*
- The best player on their bench is Devin Harris.
-- Barea, Harris, Anderson (my boy), Charlie V, McGee is their bench? Awesome.
-- Aka .. prob the worst bench in the west.

Dallas is gonna be terrible. Got them 27-55.

That's a terrible scenario...the last thing you want is for this Dallas team to finish with a worse record than Brooklyn.

Exactly, screws us in two ways. I do think they will be better than Brooklyn but they obviously have the incentive to just say let's go for the bottom...

[jmr07019]

It may not be a bad thing is Dallas doesn't give us the pick this year.

[jmr07019]

If anything Sanders just cements that Dallas pick being conveyed this year. Sanders isn't enough to get Dallas to 50 wins but he may make the pick a few spots worse for us.

He'll add enough to DAL to get them from the 9th pick down to the 15-16th range and that where you guys have already been picking so far, how's that working out for you so far ? Sanders is a better player than some are giving credit to, but what kind of basketball shape is he in ??

The point of my post you quoted is that Sanders will not be enough to make the pick go from 9 to 15 or 16. He will only be enough to make it go from 9 to 10 or 11. Obviously you disagree but I just don't see Dallas beating out Sacto, Phoenix, Utah and NOP with or without Larry.

[HeartBreakKid]

I think the Mavericks are going a lot off of name value this time around.

I thought the Mavs were going to be a lotto team when we were fooled into thinking they had DeAndre Jordan.

I really think they're going to be an awful team, near the bottom of the West. Not Portland or Minny bad, but theyll be close to it.

They're going to be a good pick for us. I'm more worried they might bottom out too hard and keep their pick.

[ConstableGeneva]

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We all made the decision to go for it,” King said. “We made a decision, and at that point we felt it was the best decision. And now we’re headed in a different direction. I don’t think you can sit there and say, ‘What if?’ You make a decision and you move on. That’s how we did it. You make the decision, and then you adjust and you move on as you have to.”

Whatever helps you sleep at night, Billy.

[Slartibartfast]

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We all made the decision to go for it,” King said. “We made a decision, and at that point we felt it was the best decision. And now we’re headed in a different direction. I don’t think you can sit there and say, ‘What if?’ You make a decision and you move on. That’s how we did it. You make the decision, and then you adjust and you move on as you have to.”

Whatever helps you sleep at night, Billy.

You can't focus on your mistakes because then you might learn from them!

He sat in for about 10 minutes on the Nets broadcast last night. Such a nice, affable guy, you can understand why people seem so reluctant to fire him.

[Slartibartfast]

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[165bows]

devin kharpertian ‏@uuords 1h1 hour ago

devin kharpertian Retweeted Danny Leroux

Have been harping on this for years. BKN’s 2016 first owned by Boston may be most valuable chip there is.

devin kharpertian added,

Danny Leroux @DannyLeroux
New piece for the @sportingnews / @sn_nba about an underappreciated topic: the intense value of 2016 1st round picks http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2015-10-15/salary-cap-rookie-contract-structure-first-round-pick-2016-nba-draft …

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2015-10-15/salary-cap-rookie-contract-structure-first-round-pick-2016-nba-draft

While the value of rookie contracts has become common knowledge in the league, the 2016 NBA Draft will take this to another level. The NBA’s collective bargaining agreement does not tie the rookie scale (or many other exceptions such as the mid-level and the bi-annual) to the salary cap, so they will stay at their specified level through the massive cap increases fueled by the national TV deal. The 2016 draft class will have artificially low wages until 2020, when the league’s economic structure could look totally different...

...Either way, teams will be getting unprecedented value from their 2016 first round selections in the years that follow...

...teams with 2016 first round picks will have the potential to secure incredibly low-cost players who can provide a bargain foundation for another four seasons. Teams like the 76ers and Celtics have the chance to bank a ton of cap space for other players by hitting on multiple picks next June.

[165bows]

Bobby Marks ‏@BobbyMarks42

Willie Reed's contract becomes fully guaranteed if he is not waived by 5pm on 10/26. Already $500k guaranteed.

Bobby Marks ‏@BobbyMarks42

Bobby Marks Retweeted David Aldridge

The one position that BKN cannot afford to have injuries to especially with Bargnani being limited in pre-season.

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt

Nets say @ShowtimeReed33 has a torn ulnar ligament in his right thumb and will have surgery Friday. Timetable for return after operation.