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Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm

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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#21 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:31 am

Man. We couldn't have been much better at the small forward position than we were tonight. Truth who? Truth what?

And I'd play Wall minuscule minutes the rest of the preseason. Dude is going all out... Though some of his dimes literally made me giggle tonight, we need him in one piece.
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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#22 » by JWizmentality » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:07 am

When we get everyone back healthy and this offense gets half a season in, Wall is going to be putting up some ridiculous assist numbers.
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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#23 » by dangermouse » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:13 am

A great plan for success this year would be to just play the Sixers more often. Why hasnt anyone looked into this?
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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#24 » by pineappleheadindc » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:03 am

dangermouse wrote:A great plan for success this year would be to just play the Sixers more often. Why hasnt anyone looked into this?


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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#25 » by fishercob » Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:50 pm

I am concerned that playing competition this pathetic in the pre-season isn't serving the Wizards preparation for the season at all, and that it is providing false confidence.
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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#26 » by Sluggerface » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:05 pm

fishercob wrote:I am concerned that playing competition this pathetic in the pre-season isn't serving the Wizards preparation for the season at all, and that it is providing false confidence.


Good thing we have three quality teams that stack up against to close it out.
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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#27 » by dobrojim » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:40 pm

We looked unbelievably good. Hope OP's ankle isn't anything serious. KO looked like a defensive
monster. And hit some shots to boot. Nice to see.
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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#28 » by nuposse04 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:55 pm

payitforward wrote:Great game from Porter. I guess everyone sho said he was a bad pick -- and there were *a lot* of you -- has forgotten ever voicing the opinion? Do I have that right?

Great game from Oubre. I guess the totally obvious, absolute no-question-about-it FACT that we should have picked Portis who's much better that *a lot* of you have been trumpeting has been forgotten? Do I have that right?

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I would have still picked portis and not have a 2nd doubt about it. Oubre giving on team defense and successfully getting highlight reel steals doesn't sway my mind :P

But he had a good game overall, so good for his confidence sake which should help the team should we ever have to use him early in the season.

In other news, Gary Neal is still garbage we should have never signed. Also Blair looks like crap too. I would have loved to have seen H. Sims playing on our preseason roster or Withey >.>
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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#29 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:34 pm

nuposse04 wrote:
payitforward wrote:Great game from Porter. I guess everyone sho said he was a bad pick -- and there were *a lot* of you -- has forgotten ever voicing the opinion? Do I have that right?

Great game from Oubre. I guess the totally obvious, absolute no-question-about-it FACT that we should have picked Portis who's much better that *a lot* of you have been trumpeting has been forgotten? Do I have that right?

:)


I would have still picked portis and not have a 2nd doubt about it. Oubre giving on team defense and successfully getting highlight reel steals doesn't sway my mind :P

But he had a good game overall, so good for his confidence sake which should help the team should we ever have to use him early in the season.

In other news, Gary Neal is still garbage we should have never signed. Also Blair looks like crap too. I would have loved to have seen H. Sims playing on our preseason roster or Withey >.>



Blair had 15 points and 7 rebounds.
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Post#30 » by JWizmentality » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:45 pm

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payitforward wrote:Great game from Porter. I guess everyone sho said he was a bad pick -- and there were *a lot* of you -- has forgotten ever voicing the opinion? Do I have that right?

Great game from Oubre. I guess the totally obvious, absolute no-question-about-it FACT that we should have picked Portis who's much better that *a lot* of you have been trumpeting has been forgotten? Do I have that right?

:)


I would have still picked portis and not have a 2nd doubt about it. Oubre giving on team defense and successfully getting highlight reel steals doesn't sway my mind

But he had a good game overall, so good for his confidence sake which should help the team should we ever have to use him early in the season.

In other news, Gary Neal is still garbage we should have never signed. Also Blair looks like crap too. I would have loved to have seen H. Sims playing on our preseason roster or Withey >.>

Both Blair and Neal played fine. Wtf are you watching?

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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#31 » by J-Ves » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:09 pm

nuposse04 wrote:
payitforward wrote:Great game from Porter. I guess everyone sho said he was a bad pick -- and there were *a lot* of you -- has forgotten ever voicing the opinion? Do I have that right?

Great game from Oubre. I guess the totally obvious, absolute no-question-about-it FACT that we should have picked Portis who's much better that *a lot* of you have been trumpeting has been forgotten? Do I have that right?

:)


I would have still picked portis and not have a 2nd doubt about it. Oubre giving on team defense and successfully getting highlight reel steals doesn't sway my mind :P

But he had a good game overall, so good for his confidence sake which should help the team should we ever have to use him early in the season.

In other news, Gary Neal is still garbage we should have never signed. Also Blair looks like crap too. I would have loved to have seen H. Sims playing on our preseason roster or Withey >.>

Blair has been very good in both preseason games he's played. He can't jump but his scoring ability is quite good around the basket. And Neal has at least made his threes.


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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#32 » by nuposse04 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:44 pm

Blair is bad on defense, along with Neal. Also, Blair producing against 3rd string talent from Philly isn't exactly enthralling. I think Blair can board fine and has some offensive utility but he needs to be paired with a shot blocking 4 who can provide space... Only guy that has any semblance of that is Hump. In the end I don't think Blair brings what we need, which is defense at the rim and rebounding... although I'll give him the latter (but he has been tipping out a lot of defensive boards, dude needs to get n better position). The **** thing is I don't think kid from NC is a better option, he looks far too frail to play even 12 minutes a game in spot duty. Which is why I'd vouch for guys who have been in the NBA like Sims and Withey if they can be had.

Gary Neal is a streak shooter, if he isn't knocking down his off the dribble mid range twos or spot up 3s he is useless. I've never thought of him as a + defender either. For all of Oubre's faults I'd rather defer minutes to him by seasons end then Gary Friggin Neal. Certainly no one is expecting a guy who hasn't been pretty good since 2011-12 to magically turn it around over the length of a whole season here? And don't give me the "john Wall effect" I imagine Neal will play the majority of his minutes off the bench. Neal is a wildly inconsistent player, I see no logical reason to be positive about him.
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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#33 » by nate33 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:13 pm

Man, that first half was embarrassing (for Philly). The Wizards ran a clinic except for way too many careless turnovers by Wall and Beal. The 2nd half was pretty meaningless. After being up 56-29, we understandably let up on the intensity

Porter looks fantastic. So does Gortat. So does Wall. Nice to see Oubre get to the FT line so much. Beal was the only one who seemed to have a bad game. He was 6-8 but a lot of those were fast break layups. Mostly, he was turnover prone and shot a lot of long 2's.

Overall, the floor spacing was terrific. We didn't actually shoot too many 3's but the threat of the shot really opened up the passing lanes. Our points in the paint count had to be ridiculous. We're also seeing a lot of benefit to us pushing the ball up and getting into the offense early. There were virtually no rushed shots caused by the shot clock expiring.

Wall's 14 assists in 21 minutes was pretty ridiculous. Guy was playing chess while Philly was playing checkers.
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Post#34 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:49 pm

nuposse04 wrote:Blair is bad on defense, along with Neal. Also, Blair producing against 3rd string talent from Philly isn't exactly enthralling. I think Blair can board fine and has some offensive utility but he needs to be paired with a shot blocking 4 who can provide space... Only guy that has any semblance of that is Hump. In the end I don't think Blair brings what we need, which is defense at the rim and rebounding... although I'll give him the latter (but he has been tipping out a lot of defensive boards, dude needs to get n better position). The **** thing is I don't think kid from NC is a better option, he looks far too frail to play even 12 minutes a game in spot duty. Which is why I'd vouch for guys who have been in the NBA like Sims and Withey if they can be had.

Gary Neal is a streak shooter, if he isn't knocking down his off the dribble mid range twos or spot up 3s he is useless. I've never thought of him as a + defender either. For all of Oubre's faults I'd rather defer minutes to him by seasons end then Gary Friggin Neal. Certainly no one is expecting a guy who hasn't been pretty good since 2011-12 to magically turn it around over the length of a whole season here? And don't give me the "john Wall effect" I imagine Neal will play the majority of his minutes off the bench. Neal is a wildly inconsistent player, I see no logical reason to be positive about him.


Since when has ANYONE expected Blair to provide defense?

I could say Gortat doesn't space the floor. Humphries doesn't protect the rim.

I think you're just being critical for the sake of criticizing.
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Re: Wizards at Sixers Preseason GT #4 10/16/15 7pm 

Post#35 » by nuposse04 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:04 pm

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Since when has ANYONE expected Blair to provide defense?

I could say Gortat doesn't space the floor. Humphries doesn't protect the rim.

I think you're just being critical for the sake of criticizing.


I expected him to be at least as good as Trevor Booker on the defensive end, I question if even he is at that level.

Gortat doesn't need to space the floor since he is a critical offensive player in the PnR, and has a decent mid range j for a center AND is a solid defender. Gortat is a very good 2 way player, Blair is not. Surely you do not believe Blair to be in Gortat's league?

I remember when Synergy sports was open, also the year we brought in both Hump and Blair, Hump rated better on most of the defensive criteria there. Hump also is a better career per36 shot blocker then Hump so there is that.

I think you're really reaching if you think I have an agenda against blair. I prefer him to Seraphin that is for sure, but I still think he isn't really what we need. If we had a complimentary 4 to put next to him to hide his inadequacies then I wouldn't keeping him, but whenever nene misses time (which he will) I'm not terribly excited about playing Blair 15-20 mins a game with the benches defense. Save for Sessions and maybe Alan anderson it will be hard for him to anchor the 2nd units defense.

If you wanna argue those points cool, would love to hear how he can overcome these perceived issues... but I'm certainly not being overly critical of him or a "hater" as some may think.

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