Should the Packers trade for Vernon Davis?

HKPackFan · Post #1 » by **HKPackFan** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:31 am

I saw this article today:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/evanmassey/2015/10/14/green-bay-packers-should-try-to-acquire-49ers-te-vernon-davis/2/

At first I was intrigued that the 49ers want to get rid of him without needing too much. And it seems to be a fit for our needs of a stretch the field TE who's a matchup problem. And it makes sense the 49ers want to dump him as he's 31 years old, in the last year of his contract, might as well get something out of him. It could be the Andre Rison move to get a dynamic player in a one year rental situation.

But then I realized we played the 49ers and he was completely INVISIBLE the entire game. I don't even remember him catching a pass or even being a target. I don't remember him at all. Did he even play!? I looked at his stats and he hasn't caught a ball in 3 games, almost a month!? Is he injured?

Has he lost all his speed? Is he going through the motions and not getting open?

Or is the offense such a fail and Kapeardick so hopeless that Vernon has no shot at getting the ball?

I don't want to bother with a has been TE who can no longer get open. But if he still has his play making ability I wouldn't mind a look. I'd just want a closer inspection to see why he hasn't caught a ball in a month. Meaning is he still getting open but his QB is just that bad.

HKPackFan · Post #2 » by **HKPackFan** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:33 am

http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/9/9/4710676/49ers-snap-count-vs-packers-breaking-it-all-down

According to this he was on every offensive snap.

RRyder823 · Post #3 » by **RRyder823** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:17 am

Short answer..... No
Long answer...... Hell no. R. Rodgers is a better player at this point for a fraction of the cost and you don't have to burn an additional pick to aquire him

HKPackFan · Post #4 » by **HKPackFan** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:54 am

RRyder823 wrote:Short answer..... No
Long answer...... Hell no. R. Rodgers is a better player at this point for a fraction of the cost and you don't have to burn an additional pick to aquire him

Why hasn't he caught a pass in forever? I know his qb sucks but not 1 pass!?

Post #5 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:32 pm

I'm not sold on RR being all that great. I don't want to trade for Davis but I'd definitely take a TE high in the draft if one is available

McGinn

Part of the reason the Packers aren't able to stretch defenses is their tight end. Richard Rodgers (58 of 62 snaps, including 16 in a three-point stance) led the team in receptions (six) and targets (eight) largely because the Rams paid him little heed. If the Packers want him with the ball in the flats or on check-downs, the Rams weren't concerned. Rodgers never breaks a tackle. He's 270 pounds, but little bitty defensive backs just chop him down with no problem. When he ran a slant from out wide on third and 3, SS T.J. McDonald stopped him from reaching the marker. On a 10-yard screen pass, Rodgers couldn't get CB Janoris Jenkins blocked and the gain was wiped out on his illegal-block penalty. Rodgers' exceptional hands failed him on a dropped 30-yard TD pass. His blocking was uneven, too. Rodgers had to play too much (94%) because rookie Kennard Backman (three) must not be ready.

Ron Swanson · Post #6 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:34 pm

Agree that we need a talent upgrade at TE, but Vernon Davis is not the answer. The guy is done.

Kerb Hohl · Post #7 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:41 pm

If one argues that Quarless is better than Davis at this point, then we get our guy back in 5-6 weeks or whatever it is.

FAH1223 · Post #8 » by **FAH1223** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:07 pm

HKPackFan wrote:http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/9/9/4710676/49ers-snap-count-vs-packers-breaking-it-all-down

According to this he was on every offensive snap.

This is from 2013. :lol:

He didn't play vs. the Packers this season.

if we can get him for a late round pick, I'd do it. You have to factor in who's throwing him the ball.

This is a case of buying low.

Post #9 » by **humanrefutation** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:14 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/9/9/4710676/49ers-snap-count-vs-packers-breaking-it-all-down

According to this he was on every offensive snap.

This is from 2013.

He didn't play vs. the Packers this season.

if we can get him for a late round pick, I'd do it. You have to factor in who's throwing him the ball.

This is a case of buying low.

Yeah, that's why he was

HKPackFan wrote:completely INVISIBLE the entire game.

The answers you can find with a 15 second google search. :lol:

But to answer OP's primary question - eh, why the hell not? If he has the drive and is healthy, and can be had for a nominal pick, he could be a Keith Jackson-like acquisition. He's a UFA next year, so no cap hit going into 2016, and we have the room in 2015 to absorb the rest of his contract.

A Diddy2231 · Post #10 » by **A Diddy2231** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:19 pm

Rodgers is a possession and goal line tight end. We need one who fits those, but can also stretch the field. I agree, I would go draft a TE in the top 2 rounds next year

WiscoKing13 · Post #11 » by **WiscoKing13** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:01 pm

Much rather use that cap space to either roll over into the off season or use on extensions for Daniels, Raji and Jones.

HKPackFan · Post #12 » by **HKPackFan** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:26 am

FAH1223 wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:[url]http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/9/9/4710676/49ers-snap-count-vs-packers-breaking-it-all-down[/url]

According to this he was on every offensive snap.

This is from 2013.

He didn't play vs. the Packers this season.

if we can get him for a late round pick, I'd do it. You have to factor in who's throwing him the ball.

This is a case of buying low.

Hahahahaha. Thx for looking it up properly my bad.

I do like the Keith Jackson reference.

Who Zaun First · Post #13 » by **Who Zaun First** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:28 pm

No. His attitude sucks about as bad as his ability to play football.

Siefer · Post #14 » by **Siefer** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:23 pm

I have no interest in Davis, but Colin Kaepernick is the worst thing that ever happened to him.

MikeIsGood · Post #15 » by **MikeIsGood** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:31 pm

Siefer wrote:I have no interest in Davis, but Colin Kaepernick is the worst thing that ever happened to him.

Yup.

I wouldn't be overly interested in him, as I'm guessing he wouldn't come as cheap as some are guessing, but I am far from sold on Richard Rodgers. I absolutely think we need to upgrade, and sooner rather than later.

M-C-G · Post #16 » by **M-C-G** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:55 pm

Wesely Walls may still have some legs left in him?

Balls2TheWalls · Post #17 » by **Balls2TheWalls** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:18 pm

I would trade them a 6th rounder.

Profound23 · Post #18 » by **Profound23** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:10 pm

Balls2TheWalls wrote:I would trade them a 6th rounder.

Exactly! Why not take the risk? Ted can get another 6th by trading down in the 5th if he wants.

RRyder823 · Post #19 » by **RRyder823** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:49 pm

Profound23 wrote:
Balls2TheWalls wrote:I would trade them a 6th rounder.

Exactly! Why not take the risk? Ted can get another 6th by trading down in the 5th if he wants.

Well there's all the lost rolled over cap space in addition to the risk of adding a guy that has been known to be a bit of a malcontent into the locker room

WiscoKing13 · Post #20 » by **WiscoKing13** » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:22 am

Rolled over cap space is not something to ignore especially this year. I'm assuming before the season stars we were also not expecting to pay Raji and Jones. Not to mention Daniels