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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#741 » by fatlever » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:36 pm

YB,

Here are the complicated rules


SERIOUS DYNASTY LEAGUE
Rules and Regulations


BASIC SETTINGS

Number of Teams- 10, with the option to expand in the future. Expansion will be discussed before the beginning of the rookie draft, with the new teams taking place in the rookie draft.
Scoring Type- Head-to-Head Points. Each week your team will play a different opponent. Only one opponent each week. Each team will accumulate a team score based on points from starting players. The winner is the team with the most points. If there happens to be a tie, the team who scored the most real points, will be deemed the winner. If that is I tie the win is awarded to the team who had the player with the most fantasy points for that week. The winner gets one win in the win column and the loser gets one loss in the loss column.
Divisions- 2. There will be two divisions no matter the amount of teams. Each division will have the same amount of teams as the other. The two divisions are East and West. The divisions will not change unless at some point the divisions become extremely lopsided. Changes will only be made to keep the league entertaining and fair. Multiple years of one strong division and one weak division would have to occur for there to be a redistribution of teams between divisions.
Schedule- Unbalanced. There are 19 weeks in the league’s regular season. You will play the four other teams in your division three times, two teams in the opposite division twice, and the other three teams in the opposite division once. This will be revised if there is team expansion.
Playoffs- 4 Teams(6 if league moves to 12 teams). 4 Teams make the playoffs: division winners and runner ups. If there is a tie for a playoff spot, head to head record between those teams is used to determine the winner. Each division winner will play their division’s runner up. The winner of each League Championship will play for the League Championship. Playoff matchups last one week.

ROSTERS

Roster Size- 15. This consists of:
PG, SG, SF, PF, C, G/F, F/C, 2 UTIL, and 6 bench spots
Max Allowed on Roster- No Max. There is not a max amount that you can have of one position on your team. You can have as many players at one position as you please.
Game Limit- No Limit. There is not a limit of how many games a position can play a aweek.
IR- 2 Slots. There are two slots for IR. An injured player who has recovered from their injury is to be removed from the IR spot before the next week of games starts.
Setting Rosters- Weekly Lock. Game rosters will be locked as soon as the first game of your week is played. Once that first game is played that is your roster for your weekly matchup.


SCORING

14 Categories
Points- 1
Blocks- 0.7
Steals- 1
Assists- 0.7
Offensive Rebounds- 0.7
Defensive Rebounds- 0.3
Personal Fouls- -0.4
Turnovers- -1
Field Goals Made- 0.4
Field Goals Attempted- -0.7
Free Throws Missed- -0.4
Double Doubles- 2
Triple Doubles- 10
Quadruple Doubles- 50


SALARIES & CONTRACTS

Salary Cap- $235. This is a hard cap. You cannot go over $235. If you do go over $235 you will receive ZERO fantasy points for the time period that you are over. The only time you can go over the cap is during the offseason. Once games start the penalty would occur.
Ways to Determine Salary
Inaugural Auction Draft- The amount you win a player at is their salary.
Free Agency- The amount you win a player at during in season free agency
Rookie Draft- Each pick has a set dollar amount. The pick you have determines that rookie’s salary.
Restricted Free Agency- The amount you win a player at. If the previous owner wants to keep his player then it is the winning bid +10%.
Free Agency Auction Draft- This is like the Inaugural Auction Draft. The amount you win a player at is the amount you pay him.
Contracts
1-4 Years- players picked through the inaugural draft, restricted free agency, and the free agency auction draft can be assigned any year from 1-4 years.
1-2 Years- Any free agent that is picked up before the trade deadline can be assigned a contract for 1-2 years. This is to be told to the commissioner on the week that player is picked up.
2 Years- Rookies are a mandatory 2 year contract.
1 Year- Free Agents picked up after the trade deadline are only allowed a contract of 1 year.
Contract End Dates
Expiring Contracts- This end date is before the Free Agency Auction draft that takes place every offseason.
Multi Year Contracts- If a player has more than one year left on his contract; the year amount does not change until after the Free Agency Auction Draft.
Injury Relief- If a player is deemed out for the year, the franchise that owns that player will receive 25% of that player’s salary back for their cap for that year. You can only receive relief for 2 players that are out for the year.


TRANSACTIONS
Observe ESPN’s Undroppable Players List- No. Anybody can be dropped at any time.
Player Universe- ALL NBA Players. There are no restrictions on who can be on a franchise’s team.
Acquisition and Waivers
Season Acquisition Limit- None. There can be as many transactions for a team as they choose.
Matchup Acquisition Limit- None. There is no limit on how many players can be added or traded during a weekly matchup
Player Acquisition Budget- $100. Each year a team is awarded $100 to pick up in season free agents. It resets each year. Once the $100 is used a manager is no longer allowed to pick up free agents for that year. The minimum bid is $1. You can only spend the amount that is allowed in your salary cap.
In Season Free Agent Process Days and Time- Sunday 11 AM. ESPN will electronically assign each team the player(s) they win every Sunday at 11 AM.
Winning an Auction- Highest Bid(or tiebreaker). To win an auction for a free agent, you must bid the highest amount for that player. If two teams bid the same amount the winner of that player is the team who is lowest in the standings at that current time.
Dropping Players- If a player is dropped before the trade deadline, that player cannot be picked up before the trade deadline unless the player is paid the salary he was paid before being dropped by the team that dropped him.Other teams can pick him up for any price. If the drop incurred a penalty then the player’s salary would be the difference between his previous salary and the penalty incurred. The penalty is not lifted. If a player is dropped after the trade deadline he cannot be picked up by that team for the rest of the year.
Trades
Trade Limit- None. Each team can perform as many trades as possible.
Trade Deadline- Will change each year. Set to NBA trade deadline.
Trade Review Period- 2 days.
Commissioner is the only one that can veto trades- This will only occur if collusion is deemed to be occurring or there are salary cap issues.
Drop Penalties
75%- If a player has 4 years left on his contract, the franchise will incur a fee of 75% of that player’s salary for the remainder of the year. This will be taken off the top of the franchise’s salary cap.
50%- If a player has 3 years left on his contract, the franchise will incur a fee of 50% of that player’s salary for the remainder of the year. This will be taken off the top of the franchise’s salary cap.
25%- If a player has 2 years left on his contract, the franchise will incur a fee of 25% of that player’s salary for the remainder of the year. This will be taken off the top of the franchise’s salary cap.
DRAFTS & OFF SEASON FREE AGENCY

Rookie Draft
Player Pool- Rookie NBA players that were drafted by an NBA Franchise and signed to an NBA Contract(Players left overseas are not in the player pool)
Rounds- 1 Round, consisting of one pick for each team in the league
Mandatory- Everyone Picks in the draft unless their pick has been traded away.
Rookie Salaries
Top Pick- $12
Second Pick- $8
Third Pick- $6
Fourth Pick- $5
Fifth Pick- $4
Sixth Pick- $3
Seventh Pick- $2
8th-10th Pick- $1
Restricted Free Agency
Player Pool- Each team selects ONE player from their expiring contracts to put in the player pool.
When?- Takes place after the Rookie draft over a 10 day period(12 days if 12 teams)
Bidding- Each day bidding will open for a selected player. The bidding will take place over a 24 hour period. 12 AM to 12 PM, Eastern Standard Time.
Who Wins?- The team with the highest bid, if the previous owner chooses to not take the player back. If the previous owner does choose to take the player back then he must pay the winning bid + 10%(or a $1 whichever is more) for that player’s salary.
Off Season Free Agency Auction
Player Pool- Any player that is not under contract by a franchise.
When?- At some point after the Restricted Free Agency period and during the NBA Preseason.
Bid Budget- The bid budget is how much money you are under the cap. Some teams will have more than others.
Who wins?- Whoever bids the highest.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#742 » by fatlever » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:37 pm

btw, just noticed the google doc needs an edit for the salary cap part, now 70, not 235.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#743 » by fatlever » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:41 pm

YBs roster

number next to player is years remaining on contract, followed by salary. For example: Ellis has 0 years remaining, meaning he will be a free agent, Kemba has 3 years remaning at $5.

Monta Ellis 0
Klay Thompson 2 $6
Nikola Pekovic 1 $2
Greg Monroe 1 $6
Rajon Rondo 1 $3
Bradley Beal 0
DeMar DeRozan 0
Al Horford 0
Tristan Thompson 1 $2
DeAndre Jordan 1 $7
Aaron Gordon 1 $1
Kemba Walker 3 $5
Lance Stephenson 2 $7
Alec Burks 1 $2
Jarrett Jack 0
Paul Pierce 0
Wilson Chandler

Right now your salary for next year is $41, so you have $29 to spend on free agents.

Ouch at that Lance contract.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#744 » by Flip Murray » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:47 pm

fatlever wrote:YBs roster

number next to player is years remaining on contract, followed by salary. For example: Ellis has 0 years remaining, meaning he will be a free agent, Kemba has 3 years remaning at $5.

Monta Ellis 0
Klay Thompson 2 $6
Nikola Pekovic 1 $2
Greg Monroe 1 $6
Rajon Rondo 1 $3
Bradley Beal 0
DeMar DeRozan 0
Al Horford 0
Tristan Thompson 1 $2
DeAndre Jordan 1 $7
Aaron Gordon 1 $1
Kemba Walker 3 $5
Lance Stephenson 2 $7
Alec Burks 1 $2
Jarrett Jack 0
Paul Pierce 0
Wilson Chandler

Right now your salary for next year is $41, so you have $29 to spend on free agents.

Ouch at that Lance contract.


Jeez Lance at 2 years 7 dollars is an albatross. Has Tristan demanded 18 dollars yet?
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#745 » by LamarMatic7 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:11 pm

chabber wrote:I'm just now looking through the player contract sheet. All three of my highlighted contracts were pickups during the season, which we can't sign to multi year deals according to the first draft of the rules. If we can, then I'm giving Gobert a 4 year deal for the $1 I picked him up on. :D

We have to get the contract sheet in order before we progress with RFA/FA. I probably shouldn't talk because I'm just now looking at it, but everyone take a few minutes and look over your roster. I don't see anything that sticks out other than the fortuitousness of Big Al not having a length to his contract, after being a FA signing from last off season. I'm guessing you want to make that a one year deal Blackout? lol

that's incorrect. you can give a free agent a two-year deal if he is picked up before the trade deadline. also - you should just post the length of the contract in this thread when you make the free agent signing. I think it would be fair that if you don't do so, it's assumed to be a one-year contract. otherwise, I feel like it isn't fair that I take the risk and give a meathead like Whiteside two years (did so in the original post) when others can make the decision to their benefit when they feel like it.

here are the specific rules about that:

1-2 Years- Any free agent that is picked up before the trade deadline can be assigned a contract for 1-2 years. This is to be told to the commissioner on the week that player is picked up.
2 Years- Rookies are a mandatory 2 year contract.
1 Year- Free Agents picked up after the trade deadline are only allowed a contract of 1 year.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#746 » by chabber » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:34 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:that's incorrect. you can give a free agent a two-year deal if he is picked up before the trade deadline. also - you should just post the length of the contract in this thread when you make the free agent signing. I think it would be fair that if you don't do so, it's assumed to be a one-year contract. otherwise, I feel like it isn't fair that I take the risk and give a meathead like Whiteside two years (did so in the original post) when others can make the decision to their benefit when they feel like it.



I agree with you and thanks Lamar, I noticed I was wrong when fats posted those rules. I was under the impression all mid season pick ups were 1 year from looking at the rules on the front page, however I see from the updated rules above that is not the case. If I can edit the document I may add the rules when I get some time. It'd be nice to not have to dig through this thread to find that information.

For my team, all of my yellows players should be free agents.

I signed Henderson near the deadline, but Gobert and Mo Williams were signed after the trade deadline. I signed all with the intention of 1 year contracts to finish out the season, although in all cases except maybe Henderson it wouldn't matter.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#747 » by LamarMatic7 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:02 pm

obviously, there's no time for this any more but I do think that we will have to adjust the draft rules for the next year. I liked the idea of being able to flat-out sign the rookie according to the rookie scale, sign him to an unguaranteed deal (becomes guaranteed at January, the 10th) OR not sign him at all, yet maintain his rights (for let's say, two seasons) and have the ability to match if anyone picks him from free agency (or trade those rights). that would deal with the problem of some not being particularly fond of being forced to pay according to the rookie scale. it opens up your hands to see what you have in a rookie and creates an environment where you can move on from him if he's not that good or someone is more interested in him.

but that's not the most important aspect at this point, unless we agree on the fly and that might not be exactly fair.

what we definitely need to agree to is RFA. I assume that once again everyone will be able to nominate one player for restricted free agency.

And I'm all for this idea from Fats (quoted below) that will prohibit teams from blindly pumping up the price of the stars of this league.

If and owner was to place a bid for a free agent (not their own), that is greater than their cap space, that owner must nominate the player or players they would cut in order to get below the salary cap. Those nominations would be binding if they won the bid for the free agent. Basically, put up or shut up - Example: you want to go 15 mil over the cap to place a bid for Lebron, you have to tell us that you will cut Bosh worth 20 mil (15 mil, + 5 mil penalty because he has 2 years on contract)... or something along those lines. It won't completely stop people from places bids to increase value, but it will at least make people present a plan before doing so.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#748 » by LamarMatic7 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:39 pm

ESAL - does your colleague from work know that the draft is underway?
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#749 » by LamarMatic7 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:57 pm

to help ESAL out with matters (as he already addressed this issue once), we should get the contract thing in order. here is every player with an undetermined contract length:

Fats - DJ Augustin
Killa Kallie - David West, Zach LaVine
Chabber - Rudy Gobert, Gerald Henderson, Mo Williams
Yosemiteben - Wilson Chandler (last season the team belonged to MotorKeepsGoing though)
RGM Blackout - Al Jefferson, Tim Hardaway Jr.
LiverPooty - Shabazz Muhammad
Squirtle Squad - Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford
LamarMatic - Hassan Whiteside (posted on Jan, the 19th that I'm giving him a 2-year contract)

as the typical course of action in the case of regular season free agency pick-ups is a $1 year deal for the rest of the season I think they should stay such unless the given team GM provides evidence (a personal message to ESAL, a post in this thread when the player was picked up, etc.) that he signed the player to different terms. so essentially almost all of these guys are becoming free agents if you don't prove otherwise.

the only difficult case seems to be RGM Blackout's. It seems like both players were signed in the free agent draft and their contract lengths were never settled. Al has a deal for $8, Hardaway for $2. What do we do here? RGM, did you ever contact ESAL to specify their contracts?
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#750 » by fatlever » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:58 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:ESAL - does your colleague from work know that the draft is underway?


he (Killa Kallie) sits next to me at work. ESAL left the company last year :(

I'll let him know.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#751 » by BlackOutBuzz » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:47 pm

Think I went with 2-year deals on both, I remember not having a desire to keep Al past his current (real-life) contract with the Hornets.
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Post#752 » by chabber » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:16 pm

EwingSweatsALot wrote:Another thing brought up is RFA. I get the over bidding for a guy you know you won't get to run up the price. Maybe we say that you can only bid what you can afford? No over bidding your cap. My only other concern is the ability to sign your own player for well cheap of what his previous salary was for because no one else can pay them. For example: If LeBron was being paid $35, and then he is a RFA, and no one can bid more than 20, then the team owner gets a guy they were paying #35 for well cheaper than that when that would never ever occur. A remedy for that I am lost on. Also do we need to limit a type of player you can restrict/how many times you can restrict a certain player?


Towards your concerns of a player possibly not getting paid enough, e.i., your example of Lebron, the same thing could apply if he was left to the FA Auction, so that is not entirely a RFA issue.

LamarMatic7 wrote:And I'm all for this idea from Fats (quoted below) that will prohibit teams from blindly pumping up the price of the stars of this league.

If and owner was to place a bid for a free agent (not their own), that is greater than their cap space, that owner must nominate the player or players they would cut in order to get below the salary cap. Those nominations would be binding if they won the bid for the free agent. Basically, put up or shut up - Example: you want to go 15 mil over the cap to place a bid for Lebron, you have to tell us that you will cut Bosh worth 20 mil (15 mil, + 5 mil penalty because he has 2 years on contract)... or something along those lines. It won't completely stop people from places bids to increase value, but it will at least make people present a plan before doing so.



At the very least that should happen.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - White Shadow is the Champion 

Post#753 » by fatlever » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:51 pm

chabber wrote:
EwingSweatsALot wrote:Another thing brought up is RFA. I get the over bidding for a guy you know you won't get to run up the price. Maybe we say that you can only bid what you can afford? No over bidding your cap. My only other concern is the ability to sign your own player for well cheap of what his previous salary was for because no one else can pay them. For example: If LeBron was being paid $35, and then he is a RFA, and no one can bid more than 20, then the team owner gets a guy they were paying #35 for well cheaper than that when that would never ever occur. A remedy for that I am lost on. Also do we need to limit a type of player you can restrict/how many times you can restrict a certain player?


Towards your concerns of a player possibly not getting paid enough, e.i., your example of Lebron, the same thing could apply if he was left to the FA Auction, so that is not entirely a RFA issue.

LamarMatic7 wrote:And I'm all for this idea from Fats (quoted below) that will prohibit teams from blindly pumping up the price of the stars of this league.

If and owner was to place a bid for a free agent (not their own), that is greater than their cap space, that owner must nominate the player or players they would cut in order to get below the salary cap. Those nominations would be binding if they won the bid for the free agent. Basically, put up or shut up - Example: you want to go 15 mil over the cap to place a bid for Lebron, you have to tell us that you will cut Bosh worth 20 mil (15 mil, + 5 mil penalty because he has 2 years on contract)... or something along those lines. It won't completely stop people from places bids to increase value, but it will at least make people present a plan before doing so.



At the very least that should happen.


I would also like to add a small wrinkle to my plan.

Lets say you have 20 mil in cap space heading into free agency. and you have 6 open roster spots. Those open roster spots should be worth 1 mil per spot, meaning you really only have 14 mil in cap space (unless you cut someone else on your roster).

Example:

Lebron is a restricted free agent and I want to make an offer. I have 20 mil in cap space and 6 open roster spots. I have to leave at least 1 mil for every open roster spot, so they can be filled in free agency at 1 per spot. I offer Lebron a contract for 20 mil, but I only have 15 to spend because of the 5 other roster spots that need to be filled, not including Lebron. Therefore, I still need to nominate a player worth 6 mil (5 to cover what I need to clear + another 1 mil to fill another spot that I just created by cutting a player). I have Lance who is worth 7 mil and only has 1 year left on his contract (ie no penalty to cut him). I propose to cut Lance if I land Lebron, in order to clear cap space. If I get Lebron, Lance gets cut. If I don't get Lebron, Lance does not get cut (at least not at that time - he can still be cut later).
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#754 » by EwingSweatsALot » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:44 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:to help ESAL out with matters (as he already addressed this issue once), we should get the contract thing in order. here is every player with an undetermined contract length:

Fats - DJ Augustin Contract Length
Killa Kallie - David WestContract Length, Zach LaVineContract Length
Yosemiteben - Wilson ChandlerContract Length (last season the team belonged to MotorKeepsGoing though)
LiverPooty - Shabazz MuhammadContract Length

as the typical course of action in the case of regular season free agency pick-ups is a $1 year deal for the rest of the season I think they should stay such unless the given team GM provides evidence (a personal message to ESAL, a post in this thread when the player was picked up, etc.) that he signed the player to different terms. so essentially almost all of these guys are becoming free agents if you don't prove otherwise.

the only difficult case seems to be RGM Blackout's. It seems like both players were signed in the free agent draft and their contract lengths were never settled. Al has a deal for $8, Hardaway for $2. What do we do here? RGM, did you ever contact ESAL to specify their contracts?


So I have found dollar amounts and the date they were picked up. above will indicate what I need to know. If they were picked up after 2/19 then it was a 1 year deal and now that player is a FA.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - White Shadow is the Champion 

Post#755 » by EwingSweatsALot » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:49 pm

fatlever wrote:
chabber wrote:
EwingSweatsALot wrote:Another thing brought up is RFA. I get the over bidding for a guy you know you won't get to run up the price. Maybe we say that you can only bid what you can afford? No over bidding your cap. My only other concern is the ability to sign your own player for well cheap of what his previous salary was for because no one else can pay them. For example: If LeBron was being paid $35, and then he is a RFA, and no one can bid more than 20, then the team owner gets a guy they were paying #35 for well cheaper than that when that would never ever occur. A remedy for that I am lost on. Also do we need to limit a type of player you can restrict/how many times you can restrict a certain player?


Towards your concerns of a player possibly not getting paid enough, e.i., your example of Lebron, the same thing could apply if he was left to the FA Auction, so that is not entirely a RFA issue.

LamarMatic7 wrote:And I'm all for this idea from Fats (quoted below) that will prohibit teams from blindly pumping up the price of the stars of this league.




At the very least that should happen.


I would also like to add a small wrinkle to my plan.

Lets say you have 20 mil in cap space heading into free agency. and you have 6 open roster spots. Those open roster spots should be worth 1 mil per spot, meaning you really only have 14 mil in cap space (unless you cut someone else on your roster).

Example:

Lebron is a restricted free agent and I want to make an offer. I have 20 mil in cap space and 6 open roster spots. I have to leave at least 1 mil for every open roster spot, so they can be filled in free agency at 1 per spot. I offer Lebron a contract for 20 mil, but I only have 15 to spend because of the 5 other roster spots that need to be filled, not including Lebron. Therefore, I still need to nominate a player worth 6 mil (5 to cover what I need to clear + another 1 mil to fill another spot that I just created by cutting a player). I have Lance who is worth 7 mil and only has 1 year left on his contract (ie no penalty to cut him). I propose to cut Lance if I land Lebron, in order to clear cap space. If I get Lebron, Lance gets cut. If I don't get Lebron, Lance does not get cut (at least not at that time - he can still be cut later).


This is how it needs to be and I am pretty sure ESPN forces this, but I am not positive. We have a minimum roster spot that you have to fill. You have to at least spend $1 on each spot in the final Free Agency Auction Draft. So you can't go into the draft with 5 spots and only $3. As far as I know ESPN doesn't allow that as possible. So technically you can't overbid for a player. You are almost forced to have a $1 cap hold for each position.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Pooty's Pick 

Post#756 » by EwingSweatsALot » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:54 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:obviously, there's no time for this any more but I do think that we will have to adjust the draft rules for the next year. I liked the idea of being able to flat-out sign the rookie according to the rookie scale, sign him to an unguaranteed deal (becomes guaranteed at January, the 10th) OR not sign him at all, yet maintain his rights (for let's say, two seasons) and have the ability to match if anyone picks him from free agency (or trade those rights). that would deal with the problem of some not being particularly fond of being forced to pay according to the rookie scale. it opens up your hands to see what you have in a rookie and creates an environment where you can move on from him if he's not that good or someone is more interested in him.

but that's not the most important aspect at this point, unless we agree on the fly and that might not be exactly fair.

what we definitely need to agree to is RFA. I assume that once again everyone will be able to nominate one player for restricted free agency.

And I'm all for this idea from Fats (quoted below) that will prohibit teams from blindly pumping up the price of the stars of this league.

If and owner was to place a bid for a free agent (not their own), that is greater than their cap space, that owner must nominate the player or players they would cut in order to get below the salary cap. Those nominations would be binding if they won the bid for the free agent. Basically, put up or shut up - Example: you want to go 15 mil over the cap to place a bid for Lebron, you have to tell us that you will cut Bosh worth 20 mil (15 mil, + 5 mil penalty because he has 2 years on contract)... or something along those lines. It won't completely stop people from places bids to increase value, but it will at least make people present a plan before doing so.


If things get moving at a decent place. I want to be able to hold an "issues" type "forum. Where we basically compile everyones issues with what they have, not their solution at that time, but compile a list of what people want to change. Then as a whole we deem it needs to be changed or not and if it does then what are the options. We got started so late so it might be an issue, but I know we need some things cleaned up. it's also hard during the offseason to get a lot of participation to get that going to. But I do want to be able to discuss things like the rookie draft and so on and so forth. It's just hard to compile everything and every idea over a spread amount of time. Being able to compile it in one area makes it a lot easier because if not we have 10 different ideas out there and it becomes hard to balance them all.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - White Shadow is the Champion 

Post#757 » by EwingSweatsALot » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:58 pm

chabber wrote:
EwingSweatsALot wrote:Another thing brought up is RFA. I get the over bidding for a guy you know you won't get to run up the price. Maybe we say that you can only bid what you can afford? No over bidding your cap. My only other concern is the ability to sign your own player for well cheap of what his previous salary was for because no one else can pay them. For example: If LeBron was being paid $35, and then he is a RFA, and no one can bid more than 20, then the team owner gets a guy they were paying #35 for well cheaper than that when that would never ever occur. A remedy for that I am lost on. Also do we need to limit a type of player you can restrict/how many times you can restrict a certain player?


Towards your concerns of a player possibly not getting paid enough, e.i., your example of Lebron, the same thing could apply if he was left to the FA Auction, so that is not entirely a RFA issue.


You are correct. I don't think in any matter it can be controlled. You obviously can't say you can't bid below what the player made before then the market value would never be corrected. More than likely what happens is that the market for a player like LeBron corrects itself, which I believe it did last time. His value was lowered to the point where he is now more feasible for others and what he should be paid. It allows instead of just 1 team to go after him, for now 2-3 teams to be able to afford him.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Blackout's Pick 

Post#758 » by amcoolio » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:05 am

I honestly don't remember about Lou Williams, but I doubt I gave him more than 1 year. So I suspect hes a FA.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Blackout's Pick 

Post#759 » by chabber » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:09 am

As I said above. All of mine are FA's. I didn't even know you could offer two years and I certainly wouldn't have done so for Henderson.

Nevermind. Looks like you updated the list.
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Re: Serious Dynasty League - Rookie draft - Blackout's Pick 

Post#760 » by BlackOutBuzz » Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:02 am

Sorry for the delay, I'll take Mudiay. Continuing my tradition with Nuggets point guards.
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