So what are the chances of us pursuing Schroeder?

[Bernman]

What's the context here? Are the Hawks shopping him?

He suggested he wouldn't re-sign with them if he's still a backup and won't be happy with that role for much longer at all, although he understands the situation and if he stays in Atlanta he'll be a professional until the contract expires.

Was there a report or anything that indicates Schroeder might be available? Or did something else change?

The Hawks are in the unenviable position of appearing to have a capped ceiling. Schroeder is one of the few players they have actually who could make a big jump.

If that is the case, maybe Teague would be the one who becomes available. We know Hammond tried his best to get him before and he has gotten a lot better since...but of course Kidd's opinion of our PG's in particular probably holds a whole lot of weight.

Either or I suppose. They have to pick one. We're not in position to be choosy given what we have and the fact both would fit our team significantly better than him.

[JayMKE]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Schroeder will never be a Buck

[buckboy]

I'd rather have Teague. As someone stated, Schroeder seems pretty ball dominant.

[raferfenix]

Ok found the quotes on the Hawks board:

...or else.

Dennis Schröder‘s rookie scale contract runs through 2016/17, and he likes playing in Atlanta, but he tells Sport Bild magazine that he wants to start and will look elsewhere if the Hawks don’t give him an opportunity, as Sport1.de relays (hat tip to Sportando’s Emiliano Carchia, and special thanks to Alan Maimon for the translation). “My goal is the starting job,” Schöder said. “If there’s no progress next season, then I’ll have to talk to my people and explore other possibilities.”

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Thoughts?

Concerns?

Predictions?

[Badgerlander]

Worked for Reggie Jackson

[emunney]

If I'm the Hawks, I don't even think about it before next offseason unless somebody bowls me over.

[machu46]

As others have said, I don't imagine Schroder will ever be a Buck. It will be interesting to see how he develops, but I wouldn't want him right now for the price the Hawks would likely demand anyways. I'd rather have Teague or simply keep MCW.

[DingleJerry]

I don't get how out of one side of people's mouths on here they argue that MCW is possibly the worst PG in the history of the NBA, and the next argue that he might be worth a 1st round pick.

I don't think Schroder will fit here. Forget arguing about how good he is. As he comes available in the next year or two his contract his FA contract is going to be stupid money. I mean, are they going to look to add another 15mil + salary with the upcoming raises needed to Giannis and Jabari. If MCW isn't what they hope I think they focus on someone still on their rookie deal or focus on it in the draft. PGs are generally easy to find and can just grab ok veteran types to fill the void if needed.

[EastSideBucksFan]

Giving up that 1st for Vasquez appears to be the worst move of our offseason. He's shown nothing so far to deserve that and it'd be really nice to still have that in our war chest to acquire a player that could be part of our future.

[breakchains]

Giving up that 1st for Vasquez appears to be the worst move of our offseason. He's shown nothing so far to deserve that and it'd be really nice to still have that in our war chest to acquire a player that could be part of our future.

I remember being told that it wasn't a big deal because it was a protected 2017 pick.

It was definitely the worst move of the offseason but I can live with it if it means less MCW.

As to Schroder, as one of the early Schroder guys, I don't think he's really a good fit at this point either. He would be better than MCW because he actually has PG instincts, but he's another ball dominator without a good shot. The construction of this team requires a shooter who doesn't need the ball in his hands much. If he isn't going to be a shooter, he has to be a willing ball mover who is a defensive wrecker (ie. Smart or Beverly).

[DingleJerry]

I do agree with not liking the trading of a late 1st rounder for Vasquez but not for the same reasons. I just don't like giving it up for a one year player when we should still be building to the future. However, I see their logic in him being insurance on MCW.

I mentioned it in the Wolves game thread but the hating on Vasquez so far is too much. Things like 'not showing much so far' and other things people have said seem very premature. This is the preseason and he's on a new team. The guy is a proven solid NBA rotation player and we shouldn't be giving up on him based on a few preseason games. And has proven a good 3 pt shooter which we really need. Seems a lot of people are writing him off already and the season hasn't even started.

[Jamaaliver]

Ok found the quotes on the Hawks board:

Hawks will want Jabari or Giannis.

We can add pieces on each side to make it more palatable.

But we need talented swingmen.

[Siefer]

We're not getting Schroeder without giving up a ton.

And I still don't like what we gave up for him, but I'm not worried about Vasquez.

[EastSideBucksFan]

Ok found the quotes on the Hawks board:

Hawks will want Jabari or Giannis.

We can add pieces on each side to make it more palatable.

But we need talented swingmen.

You'll get nothing and like it.

I'd be willing to entertain offers for talented swingman O'vinton J'Anthony Mayo.

[Jamaaliver]

You'll get nothing and like it.

I'd be willing to entertain offers for talented swingman O'vinton J'Anthony Mayo.

^This guy....

is hilarious.

[MadBlueEdwards]

Ok found the quotes on the Hawks board:

Hawks will want Jabari or Giannis.

We can add pieces on each side to make it more palatable.

But we need talented swingmen.

So basically there is no deal to be made here.

[Jamaaliver]

Ok found the quotes on the Hawks board:

Hawks will want Jabari or Giannis.

We can add pieces on each side to make it more palatable.

But we need talented swingmen.

So basically there is no deal to be made here.

What about for Teague?

How much do you value him?

There's only so many spots you can play Giannis, Middleton and Jabari...

Kris Middleton for an All Star PG in his prime on the best value contract in the NBA?

[DingleJerry]

Giannis, Middleton and Jabari aren't going anywhere. With Giannis being 6'11 all three can totally play together. There just isn't a trade here that works for either Schroeder or Teague since Atlanta won't want MCW. Unless Atlanta loved Henson for some reason, which I don't see that making sense for their roster either.

[ReasonablySober]

Hawks will want Jabari or Giannis.

We can add pieces on each side to make it more palatable.

But we need talented swingmen.

So basically there is no deal to be made here.

What about for Teague?

How much do you value him?

There's only so many spots you can play Giannis, Middleton and Jabari...

Kris Middleton for an All Star PG in his prime on the best value contract in the NBA?

Nah, he's gonna be our leading scorer this year. Once the new TV money kicks in his deal will look like a bargain too.

The only deal I see working is one centered around Henson and Schroder. Two young 20 mpg backups not likely to start for years. Henson takes over in the middle once Horford walks next season.

FWIW, I probably wouldn't do that deal. I think Henson busts out in the near future and given what Tristan Thompson just got, he'll also be a steal.

[Jamaaliver]

So basically there is no deal to be made here.

What about for Teague?

How much do you value him?

There's only so many spots you can play Giannis, Middleton and Jabari...

Kris Middleton for an All Star PG in his prime on the best value contract in the NBA?

Nah, he's gonna be our leading scorer this year. Once the new TV money kicks in his deal will look like a bargain too.

The only deal I see working is one centered around Henson and Schroder. Two young 20 mpg backups not likely to start for years. Henson takes over in the middle once Horford walks next season.

FWIW, I probably wouldn't do that deal. I think Henson busts out in the near future and given what Tristan Thompson just got, he'll also be a steal.

Believe me...we'll pass on a Henson for Dennis trade also.

Good luck with Middleton as top scorer and #1 option.