Heat vs Brow

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[DWadeno3]

itll take us a while to understand how all our pieces fit. We are super talented but nobody in our starting line up can just singled handedly dominate a game (like ggreen is doing) once we understand how we all fit together we will be scary

I'm pretty sure Wade and Bosh can single-handedly dominate a game.

Wade can dominate a single game and then have to cruise for a few before doing it again.
and Bosh isn't a real first option in reality.

Not the same way a demarcus cousins is. Once we figure out how to open up everyones game and get them playing comfortably we will be dangerous. It'll be tricky because nobody will play their usual game

dragic will have to be doing more setting up than usual
wade will have to be doing more movement without the ball than usual
deng will have to hit more 3s than usual
bosh won't have to change much but he will have to actually be scoring
hassan wil have to behave more htan he ever has


this isn't asking for a lot. It will just take a few gmaes. Hopefully not too many.

Wade has dominated several games in a row just last season. Bosh is clearly capable of being a go-to option, his game is very versatile and thus suited for him to be a go-to-guy. I haven't seen very many games, but generally the ball just needs to move quicker, as it moves the defense and creates more open opportunities for us. We have five players on the court in our starting five that are all versatile offensive weapons, we just have to try and take advantage of that and create easy baskets based on off the attention some players get.

[Heat03]

Wade took over a lot of games last year. He just didn't have anyone to help. Now with this team whenever he's taking over and they begin to double team if he can't score off his first move he can get the defense to collapse and kick it out to people or lob it up to Whiteside. Last year he was kicking it out to ennis Walker Beasley inexperienced Johnson etc.

[walk with me]

...Bosh isn't a real first option in reality... Not the same way a demarcus cousins is...

Bosh was a first option the first 7-years of his career and he's a better, more complete player now than he was then.

Bosh and Cousins through the first 5-years of their careers:

Cool.. some stats...

Starting from scratch who would you rather have? Bosh or Boogie?

[Mars]

Cool.. some stats...

Starting from scratch who would you rather have? Bosh or Boogie?

You said, "Bosh isn't a real first option in reality."... You were wrong.

[walk with me]

Cool.. some stats...

Starting from scratch who would you rather have? Bosh or Boogie?

You said, "Bosh isn't a real first option in reality."... You were wrong.

if that's how you feel.

if you rank each teams top first option scorer bosh would be towards the bottom

Speaking as first option scorers....
Steph > Bosh
LBJ > Bosh
Harden > Bosh
Boogie > bosh
KD > bosh
Westbrook > Bosh
CP3 > bosh
Lillard> bosh
Kyrie> Bosh


Debatables
Paul George
Lamarcus Aldirdge
Dirk

can bosh be a 1st option.... sure... so could oladipo. Neither are TRUE first option scorers. What makes our situation great is we are stacked with talent like the spurs. TP, Duncan, Ginobili, and Kawai aren't true 1st option scorers either. They have a great system and great support

[Mars]

You said, "Bosh isn't a real first option in reality."... You were wrong.

if that's how you feel.

if you rank each teams top first option scorer bosh would be towards the bottom

Speaking as first option scorers....
Steph > Bosh
LBJ > Bosh
Harden > Bosh
Boogie > bosh
KD > bosh
Westbrook > Bosh
CP3 > bosh
Lillard> bosh
Kyrie> Bosh


Debatables
Paul George
Lamarcus Aldirdge
Dirk

can bosh be a 1st option.... sure... so could oladipo. Neither are TRUE first option scorers. What makes our situation great is we are stacked with talent like the spurs. TP, Duncan, Ginobili, and Kawai aren't true 1st option scorers either. They have a great system and great support

Bosh : last season w/ Miami and his previous five seasons with Toronto…

MIA 2014-15 • 21.1 PPG, .460 FG, .772 FT, 7.0 FTA (half a season due to health issues)
TOR 2009-10 • 24.0 PPG, .518 FG, .797 FT, 8.4 FTA
TOR 2008-09 • 22.7 PPG, .487 FG, .817 FT, 8.0 FTA
TOR 2007-08 • 22.3 PPG, .494 FG, .844 FT, 8.3 FTA
TOR 2006-07 • 22.6 PPG, .496 FG, .785 FT, 8.6 FTA
TOR 2005-06 • 22.5 PPG, .505 FG, .816 FT, 8.3 FTA

...He scores in the post, from mid-range, from three-point range (developed w/ HEAT) all with high efficiency, can draw fouls, and hits 80+ percent from the line. How is that not a "true" first option scorer?

[walk with me]

Bosh : last season w/ Miami and his previous five seasons with Toronto…

MIA 2014-15 • 21.1 PPG, .460 FG, .772 FT, 7.0 FTA (half a season due to health issues)
TOR 2009-10 • 24.0 PPG, .518 FG, .797 FT, 8.4 FTA
TOR 2008-09 • 22.7 PPG, .487 FG, .817 FT, 8.0 FTA
TOR 2007-08 • 22.3 PPG, .494 FG, .844 FT, 8.3 FTA
TOR 2006-07 • 22.6 PPG, .496 FG, .785 FT, 8.6 FTA
TOR 2005-06 • 22.5 PPG, .505 FG, .816 FT, 8.3 FTA

...He scores in the post, from mid-range, from three-point range (developed w/ HEAT) all with high efficiency, can draw fouls, and hits 80+ percent from the line. How is that not a "true" first option scorer?

yo i don't care about #s. If you can't see the point that i'm making I don't have much to say.

[Mars]

yo i don't care about #s. If you can't see the point that i'm making I don't have much to say.

Perfect.

[Bourne85]

yo i don't care about #s. If you can't see the point that i'm making I don't have much to say.

Perfect.

LOL. "Yo I don't care about cold hard factual numbers, what I say goes. Bosh is not a first option!"

What a weirdo

[walk with me]

numbers don't mean ****.

Since we're so anxious to pull out numbers why don't we talk how many playoff series bosh has DOMINATED OFFENSIVELY AS THE #1 OPTION since he's such an INCREDIBLE #1 option? Show me THOSE numbers....


you guys don't know the game like you think you do. Showing me numbers with no story behind them is irrelevant. I gave you plenty of comparisons and you didn't say one thing about it. You just pulled up a bunch of irrelevant #s.


I'll break it down again.... Since you guys would rather pull up meaningless #s instead of making sense o te game

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Top Tier
Carmelo Anthony
Lebron James
Chris Paul
Steph Curry
James Harden
Anthony Davis
Russel Westbrook
Demarcus Cousins
Kyrie Irving
Damian Lillard


These are REAL FIRST options...Out of ALL THE #1 OPTIONS in the NBA... bosh IS NOT a TOP TIER #1 option of offense

[Alex36199]

numbers don't mean ****.

Since we're so anxious to pull out numbers why don't we talk how many playoff series bosh has DOMINATED OFFENSIVELY AS THE #1 OPTION since he's such an INCREDIBLE #1 option? Show me THOSE numbers....


you guys don't know the game like you think you do. Showing me numbers with no story behind them is irrelevant. I gave you plenty of comparisons and you didn't say one thing about it. You just pulled up a bunch of irrelevant #s.

I'll break it down again.... Since you guys would rather pull up meaningless #s instead of making sense o te game

++++++++++++++++++

Top Tier
Carmelo Anthony
Lebron James
Chris Paul
Steph Curry
James Harden
Anthony Davis
Russel Westbrook
Demarcus Cousins
Kyrie Irving
Damian Lillard


These are REAL FIRST options...Out of ALL THE #1 OPTIONS in the NBA... bosh IS NOT a TOP TIER #1 option of offense

Okay, but what is stopping Bosh from being in that top tier? Because you said so? What are the qualifications that those players have that Bosh doesn't? Just curious...

[Mars]

Blah, blah, blah, blah...

• Cousins has never played a single playoff game in five seasons as a pro.
• Cousins has never led the Kings to more than 29 regular season wins in five seasons as a pro.
• Cousins is a looter in a riot in Sacramento... Bad team, high usage, empty production with nothing to show for it.
• Cousins is Kevin Love with a worse attitude.

Bosh led his team to the playoffs twice as a first option (once with a 47-win season) and had just one season with less than 30-wins during his seven years up north as a Raptor.

Even accounting for Cousins playing in the West, a "true" first option would have managed to land his team an 8th seed at least once in the span of five years. He's clearly proven himself incapable of doing so; both as a player and a leader.

Meanwhile, due to injuries, Anthony Davis has yet to play more than 68 games in season, but still somehow managed to push his team to the playoffs by his third season... like a "true" first option should.

What do Bosh, Davis, LeBron, Carmelo, CP3, Steph, Harden, Westbrook, Aldridge, and Lillard all have in common? They've each carried their teams to the playoffs and been lead dogs during a playoff series as a primary option.

...Guess who hasn't?

[walk with me]

Okay, but what is stopping Bosh from being in that top tier? Because you said so? What are the qualifications that those players have that Bosh doesn't? Just curious...

Has nothing to do what I think. These guys are just a level better than chris bosh as scorers. Bosh is better overall than some but I'm talking specifically about being a #1 option.

...Guess who hasn't?

great... subtract boogie from the equation. That doesn't push bosh to the top tier. Bosh isn't a top tier #1 option.