Charlotte Hornets @ Miami Heat Oct 28 at 7:30 - RUHHH OHHH CLASS IS BACK IN SESSION AND WE GOT SOME NEW KIDS!!!

[ReturnofMVP3]

Did you just scoop me and steal my GT? Five F**KING days before the damn game!?!?

You're welcome

[GameTime_3]

Hassan is going to be the X-Factor for this year. When he is going, we will be near the top of the league as far as talent. But when he is down, we need find a way to bring him up, not just bench him and have him stand in a corner. Unlike most young players, Hassan is going into Free Agency where he will have to pick a team and we don't have anything outside of loyalty to offer. Hassan isn't your average player where you can just go out and find another. We need for him to improve and we need him to see that were doing is what's best for him. I fear that if we just bench him every time he makes a mistake for 12 minutes that long term, he isn't part of this team which would be a giant step back. Last time, he wasn't made when he got bench, you could see he was upset at his game. But when he was benchd for a long stretch, it quickly turned to him being up set at the situation.

[TMIMITW]

I really don't like Hassan Demeanor, but I remember how boogie cousins was and I get over it.... If he can change so can Hassan

[LEIF]

Hassan is going to be the X-Factor for this year. When he is going, we will be near the top of the league as far as talent. But when he is down, we need find a way to bring him up, not just bench him and have him stand in a corner. Unlike most young players, Hassan is going into Free Agency where he will have to pick a team and we don't have anything outside of loyalty to offer. Hassan isn't your average player where you can just go out and find another. We need for him to improve and we need him to see that were doing is what's best for him. I fear that if we just bench him every time he makes a mistake for 12 minutes that long term, he isn't part of this team which would be a giant step back. Last time, he wasn't made when he got bench, you could see he was upset at his game. But when he was benchd for a long stretch, it quickly turned to him being up set at the situation.

kid has to either get it or he wont at some point GT. if Hassan cant navigate through the "Down" times and play through it (and when you mention young players he is young but he isnt THAT young) then maybe he isnt worth the investment. He cant sulk, pout & play for himself. Either buy in, stay engaged and poised or when he is a free agent this summer we shouldnt even make him an offer. I realize he is a freakishly rare talent so I hope like all hell he gets "it" but if he doesn't it will not be the fault of Spo or the organization. And I know your comment on benching him is directed at Spo and his ways. Spo did the right thing, Hassan needed to sit down and watch a professional approach his role the way UD did in that 1st quarter/half.

Hassan Whiteside is in line for a payday (how big is yet to be determined) but that investment needs to be accompanied by increasingly lower risk as the days pass not higher risk.

When Alonzo Mourning, who knows better than anybody about being young and letting your emotions get the best of you (and more importantly how to overcome that mental hurdle) talks to the kid and leaves the conversations like "I am not sure that kid is hearing me" that is a red flag and trust me the guy who makes the decisions & the guy who signs the checks listen to Alonzo. This is Alonzo Mourning talking to you Hassan. not your Twitter fanbase screaming GOATSIDE or Future & DJ Khaled propping you up in your music video. Stop tweeting, stop talking and BUY IN. PROVE IT.

I know its one game so all please do not mistake this post for sky is falling alarm sounds from me at all. He has plenty of time and the Heat have faith in the program. but these concerns were expressed to me all summer & to see him come out in the preseason vs Houston and pout around the court and then play like he did last night. Not a good start.

The good thing is, 81 more to go.........but this has nothing, NOTHING to do with Spo in my opinion.

[gom]

I'm cheering for Hassan. He's a huge part of the future of our franchise right there if we can figure it out.

[Mars]

Enjoyed GG's poise as well. Missed 4-5 shots straight but his confidence was always off the charts. All it takes is one basket to set him off

Says a lot that Spo trusted him late.

Eh, its the first game. Remember last year Spo trusted Shabazz late in games at the start of the season.

• Gerald is a long, athletic, aggressive, explosive, 9-year NBA vet who is very good at the game of basketball
• Shabazz is none of the above...

[contract]

Hassan is going to be the X-Factor for this year. When he is going, we will be near the top of the league as far as talent. But when he is down, we need find a way to bring him up, not just bench him and have him stand in a corner. Unlike most young players, Hassan is going into Free Agency where he will have to pick a team and we don't have anything outside of loyalty to offer. Hassan isn't your average player where you can just go out and find another. We need for him to improve and we need him to see that were doing is what's best for him. I fear that if we just bench him every time he makes a mistake for 12 minutes that long term, he isn't part of this team which would be a giant step back. Last time, he wasn't made when he got bench, you could see he was upset at his game. But when he was benchd for a long stretch, it quickly turned to him being up set at the situation.

kid has to either get it or he wont at some point GT. if Hassan cant navigate through the "Down" times and play through it (and when you mention young players he is young but he isnt THAT young) then maybe he isnt worth the investment. He cant sulk, pout & play for himself. Either buy in, stay engaged and poised or when he is a free agent this summer we shouldnt even make him an offer. I realize he is a freakishly rare talent so I hope like all hell he gets "it" but if he doesn't it will not be the fault of Spo or the organization. And I know your comment on benching him is directed at Spo and his ways. Spo did the right thing, Hassan needed to sit down and watch a professional approach his role the way UD did in that 1st quarter/half.

Hassan Whiteside is in line for a payday (how big is yet to be determined) but that investment needs to be accompanied by increasingly lower risk as the days pass not higher risk.

When Alonzo Mourning, who knows better than anybody about being young and letting your emotions get the best of you (and more importantly how to overcome that mental hurdle) talks to the kid and leaves the conversations like "I am not sure that kid is hearing me" that is a red flag and trust me the guy who makes the decisions & the guy who signs the checks listen to Alonzo. This is Alonzo Mourning talking to you Hassan. not your Twitter fanbase screaming GOATSIDE or Future & DJ Khaled propping you up in your music video. Stop tweeting, stop talking and BUY IN. PROVE IT.

I know its one game so all please do not mistake this post for sky is falling alarm sounds from me at all. He has plenty of time and the Heat have faith in the program. but these concerns were expressed to me all summer & to see him come out in the preseason vs Houston and pout around the court and then play like he did last night. Not a good start.

The good thing is, 81 more to go.........but this has nothing, NOTHING to do with Spo in my opinion.

I'm sorry, but no. You play Whiteside until he fouls out ... every damn game. Otherwise you may as well blow this thing up and trade everyone away. This team (this band of misfits) has zero chance of making it past the first round of the playoffs without Whiteside. Not this year, and not in the future unless you know where we can find another freak that can provide us with the tiny semblance of defensive deterrence that Whiteside provides.

Without Whiteside, we may as well lay out a red carpet for our opponents from the top of the key to the basket.

[Mars]

Firmly entrenched in my Hassan support and absolutely want him to succeed. Possesses a world of potential, but not sure I’ve ever seen a professional athlete pout and sulk as much as him at the drop of hat. He needs to get that figured out… pronto.

[dancing2thabeet]

Who broke the boards yesterday at gametime?

[DayofMourning]

I see both points being valid (LEIF's and contract's). Hassan should not sacrifice how far he's come and take a step back. He's in a very delicate situation right now. Being a negative to the TEAM will hurt him. However, he is on the precipice of being a major star. He puts up video game numbers. Why not make him the go to guy?

In the end, I always favor the team over the player. Watching a cohesive team get IT is special, a la the 2004 Pistons. He will figure it out. He just needs a few games of destroying people to get his nut off.

[GameTime_3]

Hassan is going to be the X-Factor for this year. When he is going, we will be near the top of the league as far as talent. But when he is down, we need find a way to bring him up, not just bench him and have him stand in a corner. Unlike most young players, Hassan is going into Free Agency where he will have to pick a team and we don't have anything outside of loyalty to offer. Hassan isn't your average player where you can just go out and find another. We need for him to improve and we need him to see that were doing is what's best for him. I fear that if we just bench him every time he makes a mistake for 12 minutes that long term, he isn't part of this team which would be a giant step back. Last time, he wasn't made when he got bench, you could see he was upset at his game. But when he was benchd for a long stretch, it quickly turned to him being up set at the situation.

kid has to either get it or he wont at some point GT. if Hassan cant navigate through the "Down" times and play through it (and when you mention young players he is young but he isnt THAT young) then maybe he isnt worth the investment. He cant sulk, pout & play for himself. Either buy in, stay engaged and poised or when he is a free agent this summer we shouldnt even make him an offer. I realize he is a freakishly rare talent so I hope like all hell he gets "it" but if he doesn't it will not be the fault of Spo or the organization. And I know your comment on benching him is directed at Spo and his ways. Spo did the right thing, Hassan needed to sit down and watch a professional approach his role the way UD did in that 1st quarter/half.

Hassan Whiteside is in line for a payday (how big is yet to be determined) but that investment needs to be accompanied by increasingly lower risk as the days pass not higher risk.

When Alonzo Mourning, who knows better than anybody about being young and letting your emotions get the best of you (and more importantly how to overcome that mental hurdle) talks to the kid and leaves the conversations like "I am not sure that kid is hearing me" that is a red flag and trust me the guy who makes the decisions & the guy who signs the checks listen to Alonzo. This is Alonzo Mourning talking to you Hassan. not your Twitter fanbase screaming GOATSIDE or Future & DJ Khaled propping you up in your music video. Stop tweeting, stop talking and BUY IN. PROVE IT.

I know its one game so all please do not mistake this post for sky is falling alarm sounds from me at all. He has plenty of time and the Heat have faith in the program. but these concerns were expressed to me all summer & to see him come out in the preseason vs Houston and pout around the court and then play like he did last night. Not a good start.

The good thing is, 81 more to go.........but this has nothing, NOTHING to do with Spo in my opinion.

I agree that most of it is on Hassan. He needs to improve the mental approach to the game. That isn't debatable but what we can do from a team stand point is understand him a bit better and instead of making things worse, by just benching him, we find a way to make him feel better. Benching him for 15 minutes isn't one of them. He is to talented and we don't have anyone behind that even makes this debate. Hassan playing like crap is still a force as we saw in the second half. Some guys like to be yelled at, some guys like to be left alone, the program needs to be able to adjust, not just force the player to fit the system. That how talent is lost and not developed. I would of benched him as well.

[Hallstar]

I see both points being valid (LEIF's and contract's). Hassan should not sacrifice how far he's come and take a step back. He's in a very delicate situation right now. Being a negative to the TEAM will hurt him. However, he is on the precipice of being a major star. He puts up video game numbers. Why not make him the go to guy?

In the end, I always favor the team over the player. Watching a cohesive team get IT is special, a la the 2004 Pistons. He will figure it out. He just needs a few games of destroying people to get his nut off.

Because that's not his game and he's not the best offensive player(scoring or passing) on the team

[eddieheatfan]

i was really pleased by the heat's performance last night even thought they cut short the 20 point lead that they had in the 2nd half.tomorrow's game should be even more interesting.i dont like how mcbob is afraid to shoot tho

[DayofMourning]

I see both points being valid (LEIF's and contract's). Hassan should not sacrifice how far he's come and take a step back. He's in a very delicate situation right now. Being a negative to the TEAM will hurt him. However, he is on the precipice of being a major star. He puts up video game numbers. Why not make him the go to guy?

In the end, I always favor the team over the player. Watching a cohesive team get IT is special, a la the 2004 Pistons. He will figure it out. He just needs a few games of destroying people to get his nut off.

Because that's not his game and he's not the best offensive player(scoring or passing) on the team

Dumping the ball into the post so he can get some buckets doesn't require a massive offensive skill set. Getting him 10+ shots a game wouldn't be an outlandish idea. He's going to convert 60+ percent of those baskets and cause the other team to get in foul trouble. What you don't want to do is rein him in too much. He'll resent that, as would any player who hasn't made his mark on the league yet, and has something to prove. My original point does state that I see both sides of the story though, so its not like I'm on a soap box begging for Hassan to get shots. I just don't see how that could hurt us.

[Heat_Fan_87]

cant wait to see winslow guarding lebron

[Heat11114]

I haven't been following this thread too closely. But I would like to see Hassan settle into a Deande Jordan role. Active on the pick and roll alley-oop, cleaning up missed shots, rebounding, and blocking shots. We don't need him taking elbow jumpers, we don't need to throw the ball into the post to him unless there's a mismatch. If he does those things, the money will come and we'll win more games.

[Chalm Down]

I understand Hassan's disdain. At times you watch them play and he's posting up calling for the ball and they don't feed him. Wade is the only one who really makes a concerted effort to get him the ball. Team is going to have a major problem on their hands if they don't keep him involved in the offense because he will check out.

He doesn't want to just rebound and block shots, and I don't blame him.

They ran three plays for him in the first five minutes of the game...resulted in two turnovers and a missed jumpshot early in the shot clock. That's a good number of plays...I'm not sure why that would make him emotional.

And? Green missed his first 4 shots and ended up with 19 points. You don't just abandon the guy because of a few early mishaps. He played like 9 minutes in the first half, of course he was upset.

Okay, but Green didn't get pouty to the point of being benched when he missed his shots...Whiteside was upset before he even got benched.

[Bourne85]

Spo is playing with fire. And don't think Riley wont step in and have a word or two with spo about it. Whiteside is a FA at the end of this year. There are MANY teams that will have A LOT of cap space. If Spo is out here benching Whiteside for freaking Haslem, then we can all just kiss Whiteside goodbye and thank SPO for pushing him to another team. We already lost Lebron thanks to Spo getting outcoached in the Finals left and right. Miracle freaking 3 from Allen is the only reason we won the second title. This guy freaking loves to play favorites. It wont ever stop. UD is a BUMMMMMMM!!!! Don't give me none of that heart and soul crap, the guy is a terrible basketball player. He should never even get in the damn game. And he most definitely shouldn't be playing for whiteside.

4 minutes into the game, spo literally yanked out whiteside, and basically said "sit down Hassan and watch how its done". Not only that, but Haslem later went to the bench and STILL didn't bring hassan back in. Not only that, he brought Haslem back in AGAIN and thennnnnn after another 4-5minute stint for UD thennnn he brought whiteside back. WOW! Just trashing the kids confidence.

And down the stretch? Final 6 minutes of the game, is Hassan out there? NOPEEEE. Benched! If this continues this Dude is out of here. Spo ran dragic wade green deng bosh lineup to close the game.

What happened in the second half? Hassan shut Big Al down. 0 points in the second half. Still got benched for the final 6 minutes. Spo and his lil small ball doesn't fit Hassan.

No offense to LIEF or anyone that defends spo. But he is making a HUGE mistake. We got EXTREMELY lucky that we found a talent like Hassan in the depths of Lebanon. Hassan was the only thing that we could hang our cap on in the mist of LeBron leaving us. And now spo, playing his lil favorites, Hassan I have no doubt is gonna leave. Hassan like every other nba player has an agent. You think his agent isn't in his ear telling him the Heat are a small ball team, the heat just don't fit blabla. Loyalty? Please. He is out of here first max comes his way that isn't from us and that needs a true center.

Where was TJ? Rio got the nod again even tho TJ thouroughly outplayed him in preseason. Does TJ get rewarded? NOOOOOO. Favoritism again, there is Rio again. Playing like ass again. Doesn't matter, here u go rio 25 min even though you don't deserve them.

Cavs up next. They play Mosgov, then Tristan. Hassan should get 35min if he stays out of foul trouble. If he doesn't get 30plus minutes vs the cavs, a team that plays a 7 footer non shooter threat at all times. Then Hassan is truly F'd on this team.

[Mars]

I agree that most of it is on Hassan. He needs to improve the mental approach to the game. That isn't debatable but what we can do from a team stand point is understand him a bit better and instead of making things worse, by just benching him, we find a way to make him feel better. Benching him for 15 minutes isn't one of them. He is to talented and we don't have anyone behind that even makes this debate. Hassan playing like crap is still a force as we saw in the second half. Some guys like to be yelled at, some guys like to be left alone, the program needs to be able to adjust, not just force the player to fit the system. That how talent is lost and not developed. I would of benched him as well.

Spo showed restraint... Pop would have benched Hassan in 90-seconds.

[heat4life]

I don't know how anyone could sit here and complain about Spo benching Whiteside after watching that game. Hassan issues are mental. It's not something that he is going to shoot or block his way out of. He needs to work on controlling his emotions and stop the pouting. If the name wasn't Whiteside on the jersey, would you still be calling for such player to be on the floor? Come on...