Quake Griffin wrote:Neddy wrote:nitetrain8603 wrote:Now I wonder if Friedman is kicking himself in the arse for not firing him last year to get Maddon. Any coaching candidates? I'd pick Dave Martinez who is a disciple of Maddon and who's been with him for the longest.
would have been a great choice, but I am sure the league would have probed a tampering charge against us since Maddon still had years left on his contract when he quit the Rays job as soon as Andrew bailed on them.Quake Griffin wrote:From everything I can gather….these are the potential names for us
Ron Roenicke
Tim Wallach
Bud Black
Dave Martinez
Bob Geren
Gabe Kapler
I like Bud Black…
Meh on Kapler…that'll just be like having the front office manage the team
Bob Geren seemed like he wasn't well liked by the players in Oakland…wow…what a departure that would be from Mattingly….fits the bill that people like of former catcher turned manager. I'm not as impressed by that and I don't think all catchers are great managers.
I personally don't mind Gabe. If you remember him from his playing days, he wasn't a gifted hitter like Donny Potato but a guy on the fringes who had to work hard to gain a platoon role and flourished. guys like that tends to master all the ins and outs of the game and I am sure he will be a much better tactician than Mattingly from day 1. he is an energetic guy too, but only issue I would have with him is to have the manager of my beloved dodgers be younger than myself. having grown up on Tommy, my ideal image of dodger manager has always been a father figure type, not a younger brother type lol.
I like Dave Martinez too. I also think Tim Wallach deserves a shot as well. I don't like Ron Roenicke. he was the one who did not do his job as a 3rd base coach when Daniel Murphy ran wild on us all the way to third from the first on a walk.
I dunno how I feel about Bud. I suppose him being an ex pitcher and a pitching coach, he would have a lot to offer to Kersh and the rest of the staff, but I was never impressed with him in SD even in his manager of the year season. do you guys remember their epic collapse at the end of the season to blow their division lead?
I don't want Bob Geren. aside from the similar discontent his players felt about Bob's illogical management of his pitching staff as Potato, his wife's name is beatlejuice.
for candidates that are yet discussed, Brad Ausmus, Brent Mayne, and possibly AJ Hinch intrigues me.
Don't forget Scioscia can still opt out of his deal when the World Series is over.
Somehow, I'm less than thrilled with how things ended between him and Jerry Dipoto and I, like many others, don't think he'd mesh well here.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-playoffs-bullpen-managers-mike-matheny-joe-girardi/
check where Bud and Scioscia rank on this article….and look at where overrated Matheny is.
Ausmus is going back to Detroit as far as I can tell.
and why on earth would AJ Hinch leave his current gig? He has an opt out clause? That's a top 5 job right now if you ask me.
yeah AJ would have been a pipe dream, and unlikely. Brad appears to be determined to make the losing situation work too. Brent Mayne doesn't have much experience as a manager but if Gabe Kapler is the leading man, it's a wash.
I love Mike Scioscia, but he is not the right guy for our team as of now. if he couldn't work with Dipoto, there is no way he can work with Andrew and Co.
as for Bud, as I mentioned, yeah pitching staff will benefit immensely from his presence, no doubt. but if you were to look into his actual Ws and Ls versus Pythagorean numbers, his gain in last 3 seasons or so with +2 or +1 gets demolished with his -9 season and other net negative seasons. he is calling the pen right, no doubt. I am not sure about his ability to maximize the batsmen. the fall out that happened with Grandal against his pitchers should not have happened, and this is one reason I am always advocating for an ex catcher as a manager.
If Bud is our manager, at least I can sleep well that he won't be blowing up the bullpen at the worst moment. but I have to wonder how much would he be willing to install the front office's statistical data to make extreme shifts in the infield at times? how would be react when his personal favorite utility infielder is sent down for a guy who can swing without a position? Bud to me is very old school in the mold of Mike Scioscia. there are GMs who can work with that and win, but our FO is the new school. we need a new school of thought faithful for the next manager for this thing to work, imo.
I wouldn't mind being found wrong if Bud is hired and win this damn thing all the way to the top. but as of now, I am welcoming the possibility of Gabe with open arms. I just wonder how some of the old dudes on the team like Gonzo would think of having a manager who is his peer.